brooks? is he good?

spkb25 · 07-04-2005, 12:20 AM

makes bone head plays noone can argue that. then you look at his stats over the last few years ( um minus the fumbles the one year )since 2002 72 TD'S 39 INT'S. mcnabb 64 TD'S 25 INT'S. bulger 57 TD'S 42 INT'S. favre 89 TD'S 54 INT'S. vick 34TD'S 23 INT'S (HE WAS HURT THE ONE YEAR). hasslebeck 63 TD'S 40 INT'S. brady 79 TD'S 40 INT'S.
SOME OF THE OTHER GUYS LIKE VICK DIDN'T PLAY FULL SEASONS (I PROBABLY SHOULDN'T HAVE PUT HIM IN HERE EITHER, LITTLE UNFAIR) AND I DIDN'T INCLUDE THEM. JAKE AND MCNAIR FOR INSTANCE. BUT IF YOU LOOK AT HIS NUMBERS GOD DAMN IF ARRON ISNT RIGHT THERE WITH SOME OF THE BEST IN OUR LEAGUE. I DIDN'T INCLUDE CULPEPPER OR MANNING BECAUSE THAT IS JUST OBVIOUS OR SHOULD BE.

MAN OUTSIDE OF HIS DUMB ASS MISTAKES AND INCONSISTENCY THE GUY HAS DOWN RIGHT GOOD NUMBERS. ARGUE BECAUSE I WOULDN'T MIND HEARING IT. MIND YOU THIS IS FROM A NON BROOKS SUPPORTER.

RockyMountainSaint · 07-04-2005, 06:24 AM

MAN OUTSIDE OF HIS DUMB ASS MISTAKES AND INCONSISTENCY

This says it all when you consider the timing of said mistakes and drive killing inconsintency.
I would rather have a QB who doesn't choke or rather doesn't put our team in an often insurmountable hole early in the game. Many QBs can have good stats if the team is forced into throwing the ball almost exclusively for 3 quarters. Opposing defenses have the luxury at that time of being "bend but don't break" players. Looks good on the stat sheet but doesen't win many football games.
I am not letting the D or Haz off of the hook here but this seems to be (yet another) AB thread. I am keeping the topic on AB as this is how the thread started.

I am sure that will change soon enough though.

Deja Vu all over again.

saintswhodi · 07-04-2005, 12:34 PM

Unless this thread is ignored for the other two on Brooks, there is no way ANYONE argues about Brooks that supports him without bringing up the D and about 100 other excuses. Just remember, just like every other year, this is Brooks' year, or his last chance.

CheramieIII · 07-04-2005, 12:53 PM

Man, I am sorry I started the Brooks crap this year. I drafted him on my fantasy football team this year and I really think he will be fine.

Danno · 07-04-2005, 06:23 PM

No worry Cher, he's a good QB. There's simply a contingent here that think he's the worst QB to put on a helmet no matter what happens. I'm starting to wonder what the real reason is that so many hate him.

Yes, he is a good QB.

saintswhodi · 07-04-2005, 06:30 PM

If by the words "good QB" what is actually meant is inconsistent, dim-witted, hasn't stepped up in 4 years as a starter and is an ego-maniac, then I think we are all in agreement. Good luck with your fantasy league Cher. Hopefully they only take off points for lost fumbles and not simply putting the ball on the ground like a couple leagues I am in that take off for both, cause then you are in trouble. Unless, dare I say, THIS is the year he puts it all together.

Danno · 07-04-2005, 06:35 PM

Originally Posted by saintswhodi

If by the words "good QB" what is actually meant is inconsistent, dim-witted, hasn't stepped up in 4 years as a starter and is an ego-maniac, then I think we are all in agreement. Good luck with your fantasy league Cher. Hopefully they only take off points for lost fumbles and not simply putting the ball on the ground like a couple leagues I am in that take off for both, cause then you are in trouble. Unless, dare I say, THIS is the year he puts it all together.

Are you this pissy all the time? Or just when you post on football forums?
Take a valium.

saintswhodi · 07-04-2005, 06:54 PM

There's simply a contingent here that think he's the worst QB to put on a helmet no matter what happens. I'm starting to wonder what the real reason is that so many hate him.

Dude, if you have any more pot/kettle moments, you will start to rust.

saintswhodi · 07-04-2005, 10:17 PM

Originally Posted by BlackonBlack

Brooks, Brooks, blah-blah-blah. I have no quotes of good/ or bad for him. All i'll say is 1 player doesn't decide the outcome of a NFL game or season.

It's unfathomable for me to comprehend how, Brooks can be blamed for sooo much, and i'm sitting in front of my tv, watching as our defense is the joke of every week. No pun intended.

Does the punchline of that joke start with the offense not scoring in 12 straight first quarters? And barely scoring in the first half of any game? Despite getting a top 10 number of turnovers from the D? But squandering it in three and outs?

saintswhodi · 07-04-2005, 10:35 PM

Originally Posted by BlackonBlack

Does the punchline of that joke start with the offense not scoring in 12 straight first quarters? And barely scoring in the first half of any game? Despite getting a top 10 number of turnovers from the D? But squandering it in three and outs

So, in saying the offense; that is converted into Brooks? By my memory so many of those 3 and outs involved the OL and presnap penalties. And our defense hasn't been top 10 in anything, other than what makes someone laugh hardest. Or are you talking about during the 4 game stretch?

And last I remember a team going into and throughout the playoffs without scoring a single offensive point and winning the superbowl, not able to get their offense past the opponents 50...Go ahead call Tom Brady to see if this is true.

Huh? Our defense was top 10 in takeaways. Check NFL.com. It's been posted here numerous times. And do you have a Brooks complex? I said the OFFENSE, not Brooks. Don't even get me started on his ineptitude.

And are you saying New England did not score an offensive point in the playoffs? Seriously? Well, they did. Or am I misreading and you are saying their defense did not allow an offensive point in the playoffs? Cause that isn't true either. Pittsburgh had 388 yards of total offense aginst NE's D in the AFC champ game with 3 TDs and 27 total points. Okay, i'll leave this one alone. Welcome to the site, and enjoy.

07-04-2005, 12:20 AM	#1
spkb25 10000 POST CLUB Join Date: Aug 2004 Location: Baltimore, MD Posts: 13,101	brooks? is he good? makes bone head plays noone can argue that. then you look at his stats over the last few years ( um minus the fumbles the one year )since 2002 72 TD'S 39 INT'S. mcnabb 64 TD'S 25 INT'S. bulger 57 TD'S 42 INT'S. favre 89 TD'S 54 INT'S. vick 34TD'S 23 INT'S (HE WAS HURT THE ONE YEAR). hasslebeck 63 TD'S 40 INT'S. brady 79 TD'S 40 INT'S. SOME OF THE OTHER GUYS LIKE VICK DIDN'T PLAY FULL SEASONS (I PROBABLY SHOULDN'T HAVE PUT HIM IN HERE EITHER, LITTLE UNFAIR) AND I DIDN'T INCLUDE THEM. JAKE AND MCNAIR FOR INSTANCE. BUT IF YOU LOOK AT HIS NUMBERS GOD DAMN IF ARRON ISNT RIGHT THERE WITH SOME OF THE BEST IN OUR LEAGUE. I DIDN'T INCLUDE CULPEPPER OR MANNING BECAUSE THAT IS JUST OBVIOUS OR SHOULD BE. MAN OUTSIDE OF HIS DUMB ASS MISTAKES AND INCONSISTENCY THE GUY HAS DOWN RIGHT GOOD NUMBERS. ARGUE BECAUSE I WOULDN'T MIND HEARING IT. MIND YOU THIS IS FROM A NON BROOKS SUPPORTER.

07-04-2005, 06:24 AM	#2
RockyMountainSaint Mmm That Smell! Join Date: Oct 1998 Location: Metairie Terrace Posts: 3,073	RE: brooks? is he good? MAN OUTSIDE OF HIS DUMB ASS MISTAKES AND INCONSISTENCY This says it all when you consider the timing of said mistakes and drive killing inconsintency. I would rather have a QB who doesn't choke or rather doesn't put our team in an often insurmountable hole early in the game. Many QBs can have good stats if the team is forced into throwing the ball almost exclusively for 3 quarters. Opposing defenses have the luxury at that time of being "bend but don't break" players. Looks good on the stat sheet but doesen't win many football games. I am not letting the D or Haz off of the hook here but this seems to be (yet another) AB thread. I am keeping the topic on AB as this is how the thread started. I am sure that will change soon enough though. Deja Vu all over again.
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07-04-2005, 06:35 PM	#7
Danno Truth Addict Join Date: Dec 2003 Location: Spanish Fort, AL (via NO and B/R) Posts: 24,723	Originally Posted by saintswhodi If by the words "good QB" what is actually meant is inconsistent, dim-witted, hasn't stepped up in 4 years as a starter and is an ego-maniac, then I think we are all in agreement. Good luck with your fantasy league Cher. Hopefully they only take off points for lost fumbles and not simply putting the ball on the ground like a couple leagues I am in that take off for both, cause then you are in trouble. Unless, dare I say, THIS is the year he puts it all together. Are you this pissy all the time? Or just when you post on football forums? Take a valium.

07-04-2005, 10:17 PM	#9
saintswhodi 5000 POSTS! + Join Date: Oct 2004 Location: San Antonio, TX Posts: 6,941	Originally Posted by BlackonBlack Brooks, Brooks, blah-blah-blah. I have no quotes of good/ or bad for him. All i'll say is 1 player doesn't decide the outcome of a NFL game or season. It's unfathomable for me to comprehend how, Brooks can be blamed for sooo much, and i'm sitting in front of my tv, watching as our defense is the joke of every week. No pun intended. Does the punchline of that joke start with the offense not scoring in 12 straight first quarters? And barely scoring in the first half of any game? Despite getting a top 10 number of turnovers from the D? But squandering it in three and outs?

07-04-2005, 10:35 PM	#10
saintswhodi 5000 POSTS! + Join Date: Oct 2004 Location: San Antonio, TX Posts: 6,941	Originally Posted by BlackonBlack Does the punchline of that joke start with the offense not scoring in 12 straight first quarters? And barely scoring in the first half of any game? Despite getting a top 10 number of turnovers from the D? But squandering it in three and outs So, in saying the offense; that is converted into Brooks? By my memory so many of those 3 and outs involved the OL and presnap penalties. And our defense hasn't been top 10 in anything, other than what makes someone laugh hardest. Or are you talking about during the 4 game stretch? And last I remember a team going into and throughout the playoffs without scoring a single offensive point and winning the superbowl, not able to get their offense past the opponents 50...Go ahead call Tom Brady to see if this is true. Huh? Our defense was top 10 in takeaways. Check NFL.com. It's been posted here numerous times. And do you have a Brooks complex? I said the OFFENSE, not Brooks. Don't even get me started on his ineptitude. And are you saying New England did not score an offensive point in the playoffs? Seriously? Well, they did. Or am I misreading and you are saying their defense did not allow an offensive point in the playoffs? Cause that isn't true either. Pittsburgh had 388 yards of total offense aginst NE's D in the AFC champ game with 3 TDs and 27 total points. Okay, i'll leave this one alone. Welcome to the site, and enjoy.

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07-04-2005, 12:34 PM	#3
saintswhodi 5000 POSTS! + Join Date: Oct 2004 Location: San Antonio, TX Posts: 6,941	Unless this thread is ignored for the other two on Brooks, there is no way ANYONE argues about Brooks that supports him without bringing up the D and about 100 other excuses. Just remember, just like every other year, this is Brooks' year, or his last chance.

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CheramieIII Fan Since 1967 Join Date: May 2004 Location: Nomad Posts: 7,487 Blog Entries: 3	Man, I am sorry I started the Brooks crap this year. I drafted him on my fantasy football team this year and I really think he will be fine.

07-04-2005, 06:23 PM	#5
Danno Truth Addict Join Date: Dec 2003 Location: Spanish Fort, AL (via NO and B/R) Posts: 24,723	No worry Cher, he's a good QB. There's simply a contingent here that think he's the worst QB to put on a helmet no matter what happens. I'm starting to wonder what the real reason is that so many hate him. Yes, he is a good QB.

07-04-2005, 06:30 PM	#6
saintswhodi 5000 POSTS! + Join Date: Oct 2004 Location: San Antonio, TX Posts: 6,941	If by the words "good QB" what is actually meant is inconsistent, dim-witted, hasn't stepped up in 4 years as a starter and is an ego-maniac, then I think we are all in agreement. Good luck with your fantasy league Cher. Hopefully they only take off points for lost fumbles and not simply putting the ball on the ground like a couple leagues I am in that take off for both, cause then you are in trouble. Unless, dare I say, THIS is the year he puts it all together.

07-04-2005, 06:54 PM	#8
saintswhodi 5000 POSTS! + Join Date: Oct 2004 Location: San Antonio, TX Posts: 6,941	There's simply a contingent here that think he's the worst QB to put on a helmet no matter what happens. I'm starting to wonder what the real reason is that so many hate him. Dude, if you have any more pot/kettle moments, you will start to rust.