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ChrisXVI 07-26-2019 10:47 AM
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Originally Posted by jeanpierre (Post 848689)
From what I’ve seen he has incredible hands. I like him. Herbie does too...

jeanpierre 07-26-2019 10:54 AM
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Originally Posted by voodooido (Post 848690)
The guy is a beast but he (Mike Thomas) is not worth being the highest paid wr. Trade him now and let brees turn these other wr’s into studs. Do I want to keep MT? Absolutely, but he is not worth 20 mil a year
I'm nervous about committing so much salary cap to one player, but @CantGuardMike was the among the best WRs in the league last season...

He ranked thusly among WRs:

REC (1st)

ReYD (6th)

ReTD (10th)

Re% (1st)

ReYd/Gm (8th)

Should he be paid as the best WR in the game, :rolleyes:, it's not conclusive, but there's strong evidence (e.g. Receptions, Hands) that he is...

K Major 07-26-2019 11:07 AM
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Originally Posted by voodooido (Post 848690)
The guy is a beast but he is not worth being the highest paid wr. Trade him now and let brees turn these other wr’s into studs. Do I want to keep MT? Absolutely, but he is not worth 20 mil a year
Complete :bs:.

Anyone that believes Michael Thomas is a product of Brees hasn't watched games closely enough or understand football. Easily a top 3 WR in the league as a route runner and creating separation.

Those "let Brees turn these other WR"s into studs" days are long gone (see week 13 of 2018 and beyond).

Originally the number was 22M & the Saints brass offer was 18M. 20M is fair in today's market.

AsylumGuido 07-26-2019 11:58 AM
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Originally Posted by K Major (Post 848695)
Complete :bs:.

Anyone that believes Michael Thomas is a product of Brees hasn't watched games closely enough or understand football. Easily a top 3 WR in the league as a route runner and creating separation.

Those "let Brees turn these other WR"s into studs" days are long gone (see week 13 of 2018 and beyond).

Originally the number was 22M & the Saints brass offer was 18M. 20M is fair in today's market.
Agreed. But more importantly, the average amount per year is meaningless. What is important is the guaranteed amount and how soon it is realized. The Saints can give him a four year $100M deal with $40M guaranteed in the first two years that is actually worth less than a four year $80M deal with $50M guaranteed over the first three years.

CHA_CHING 07-26-2019 01:50 PM
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Originally Posted by jeanpierre (Post 848693)
I'm nervous about committing so much salary cap to one player, but @CantGuardMike was the among the best WRs in the league last season...

He ranked thusly among WRs:

REC (1st)

ReYD (6th)

ReTD (10th)

Re% (1st)

ReYd/Gm (8th)

Should he be paid as the best WR in the game, :rolleyes:, it's not conclusive, but there's strong evidence (e.g. Receptions, Hands) that he is...
If we go by PFR's rankings, MT was the best receiver last year with an AV ranking of 18. Also tied with Drew for the highest AV ranking on our team.

He was hands down the best receiver in the league last year and he caught around 60% of Brees' passes.

K Major 07-26-2019 02:37 PM
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Cyril Grayson...

If he can somehow translate that track speed to football speed, he'd could do wonders on special teams/punt returns.

jeanpierre 07-26-2019 04:09 PM
Re: And so it begins...
 
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Originally Posted by CHA_CHING (Post 848699)
If we go by PFR's rankings, MT was the best receiver last year with an AV ranking of 18. Also tied with Drew for the highest AV ranking on our team.

He was hands down the best receiver in the league last year and he caught around 60% of Brees' passes.
Per Pro Football Reference, it was 83%...83%...

jeanpierre 07-26-2019 04:12 PM
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Originally Posted by ChrisXVI (Post 848684)
Good. We could really use a guy like Kirkwood taking that next step this season.
Not really surprised by this news as Mike Thomas often shifted to the slot on third downs or in the red zone and Kirkwood was used for his size on the outside at the X-receiver spot...

Saw it his senior year film and his rookie year, amazing hands, catch radius...

FinSaint 07-27-2019 01:18 AM
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I hope Cobbs is back to 100% and can really show the staff what he has to offer.

jeanpierre 07-27-2019 09:39 AM
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