Michael Thomas or Jimmy Graham?

SmashMouth · 08-06-2019, 09:12 AM

Originally Posted by vpheughan

All this was Jimmy a TE or WR raises the Question When it comes time to extending Number 7 it will be as a............? I can also see the NFL coming out with the "Hill Rule" "A player will be allowed to play at ONE other position during the course of a game" Wait for it.........

https://www.spotrac.com/nfl/new-orle...om-hill-22021/

He's cheap now... not so cheap in 2020 as he will be in line for a new contract. And yes, we must resign him.

homerj07 · 08-06-2019, 04:12 PM

I'm not sure why this is even a question...?

TheOak · 08-07-2019, 06:00 AM

Interesting discussion but I’m not sure it can qualitatively be had for a couple of years.

Jimmy played smart. He played with enough effort, risk, and pizzaz to build value and a brand. Once he signed that contract he played to protect that value.

If MT plays out like he has up to his extension then this is an easy discussion, if he starts playing to protect his asset this will be an interesting discussion indeed and I suspect Payton and Loomis will get roasted in the process.

CHA_CHING · 08-07-2019, 05:31 PM

Originally Posted by hitta

While I think it's definitely MT, Jimmy's size wasn't the only reason he was good. Yes he hardly ever caught the ball in stride, but he tended to go up for balls with a lot of power in ways that other people his size couldn't. His basketball background benefited him quite a bit and Jimmy is just a strong dude.

Brees deserves credit too. He is one of those rare QBs like Manning, Brady, Favre, Marino and Elway who can elevate talent and bring the best out of someone.

Graham had his best years with Brees throwing to him. Same for Lance Moore and Robert Meachem whom didn't do much after they went and played for other teams.

dam1953 · 08-07-2019, 05:36 PM

Originally Posted by CHA_CHING

Brees deserves credit too. He is one of those rare QBs like Manning, Brady, Favre, Marino and Elway who can elevate talent and bring the best out of someone.

Graham had his best years with Brees throwing to him. Same for Lance Moore and Robert Meachem whom didn't do much after they went and played for other teams.

Brees is a system quarterback....he makes the system work.

AsylumGuido · 08-07-2019, 05:52 PM

Originally Posted by dam1953

Brees is a system quarterback....he makes the system work.

Brees IS the system and Payton knows that. Payton relies upon Brees' strengths which include his ability to read defenses (pre and post snap), accuracy (best ever) and motivation (also among the best ever).

SmashMouth · 08-07-2019, 08:42 PM

Originally Posted by dam1953

Brees is a system quarterback....he makes the system work.

Originally Posted by AsylumGuido

Brees IS the system and Payton knows that. Payton relies upon Brees' strengths which include his ability to read defenses (pre and post snap), accuracy (best ever) and motivation (also among the best ever).

Are you dissing Teddy and Taysom?

Taysom brings a new dimension. Teddy is still a question mark.

cars4dylan · 08-08-2019, 07:39 AM

Originally Posted by SmashMouth

Are you dissing Teddy and Taysom?

Taysom brings a new dimension. Teddy is still a question mark.

Teddy better be miraculous in these preseason games because after being in the building for a few months last year he looked clueless in Week 17. Throws unimpressive and reads were horrible against a washed up team.

I'd better see something make me think he was worth retaining.

st thomas · 08-08-2019, 08:20 AM

Originally Posted by cars4dylan

Teddy better be miraculous in these preseason games because after being in the building for a few months last year he looked clueless in Week 17. Throws unimpressive and reads were horrible against a washed up team.

I'd better see something make me think he was worth retaining.

I’ve been waiting all summer to unleash the beast so to speak. Have to trust Payton and Mick that they see something in bridge to throw down 10 mil a year to retain .

foreverfan · 08-08-2019, 12:58 PM

Stupid question.

08-06-2019, 09:12 AM	#21
SmashMouth I donated, did you? Join Date: Sep 2007 Location: Mandeville, LA Posts: 38,201 Blog Entries: 29	Re: Michael Thomas or Jimmy Graham? Originally Posted by vpheughan All this was Jimmy a TE or WR raises the Question When it comes time to extending Number 7 it will be as a............? I can also see the NFL coming out with the "Hill Rule" "A player will be allowed to play at ONE other position during the course of a game" Wait for it......... https://www.spotrac.com/nfl/new-orle...om-hill-22021/ He's cheap now... not so cheap in 2020 as he will be in line for a new contract. And yes, we must resign him.

08-06-2019, 04:12 PM	#22
homerj07 In Doh We Trust Join Date: Sep 2009 Location: Central Florida Posts: 7,027 Blog Entries: 16	Re: Michael Thomas or Jimmy Graham? I'm not sure why this is even a question...?

08-07-2019, 06:00 AM	#23
TheOak 10000 POST CLUB Join Date: Dec 2009 Location: Cypress Tx. Posts: 19,027	Re: Michael Thomas or Jimmy Graham? Interesting discussion but I’m not sure it can qualitatively be had for a couple of years. Jimmy played smart. He played with enough effort, risk, and pizzaz to build value and a brand. Once he signed that contract he played to protect that value. If MT plays out like he has up to his extension then this is an easy discussion, if he starts playing to protect his asset this will be an interesting discussion indeed and I suspect Payton and Loomis will get roasted in the process.

08-07-2019, 05:31 PM	#24
CHA_CHING 1000 Posts + Join Date: Jan 2019 Location: Mobile, AL Posts: 1,159	Re: Michael Thomas or Jimmy Graham? Originally Posted by hitta While I think it's definitely MT, Jimmy's size wasn't the only reason he was good. Yes he hardly ever caught the ball in stride, but he tended to go up for balls with a lot of power in ways that other people his size couldn't. His basketball background benefited him quite a bit and Jimmy is just a strong dude. Brees deserves credit too. He is one of those rare QBs like Manning, Brady, Favre, Marino and Elway who can elevate talent and bring the best out of someone. Graham had his best years with Brees throwing to him. Same for Lance Moore and Robert Meachem whom didn't do much after they went and played for other teams.

08-07-2019, 05:36 PM	#25
dam1953 1000 Posts + Join Date: Jan 2012 Location: SW Ohio Posts: 4,645	Re: Michael Thomas or Jimmy Graham? Originally Posted by CHA_CHING Brees deserves credit too. He is one of those rare QBs like Manning, Brady, Favre, Marino and Elway who can elevate talent and bring the best out of someone. Graham had his best years with Brees throwing to him. Same for Lance Moore and Robert Meachem whom didn't do much after they went and played for other teams. Brees is a system quarterback....he makes the system work. SmashMouth likes this.

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AsylumGuido 10000 POST CLUB Join Date: Sep 2007 Location: Bossier City, LA Posts: 26,274	Re: Michael Thomas or Jimmy Graham? Originally Posted by dam1953 Brees is a system quarterback....he makes the system work. Brees IS the system and Payton knows that. Payton relies upon Brees' strengths which include his ability to read defenses (pre and post snap), accuracy (best ever) and motivation (also among the best ever).

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SmashMouth I donated, did you? Join Date: Sep 2007 Location: Mandeville, LA Posts: 38,201 Blog Entries: 29	Re: Michael Thomas or Jimmy Graham? Originally Posted by dam1953 Brees is a system quarterback....he makes the system work. Originally Posted by AsylumGuido Brees IS the system and Payton knows that. Payton relies upon Brees' strengths which include his ability to read defenses (pre and post snap), accuracy (best ever) and motivation (also among the best ever). Are you dissing Teddy and Taysom? Taysom brings a new dimension. Teddy is still a question mark. TheOak likes this.

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st thomas Site Donor 2018 Join Date: Dec 2009 Location: lafayette Posts: 7,753	Re: Michael Thomas or Jimmy Graham? Originally Posted by cars4dylan Teddy better be miraculous in these preseason games because after being in the building for a few months last year he looked clueless in Week 17. Throws unimpressive and reads were horrible against a washed up team. I'd better see something make me think he was worth retaining. I’ve been waiting all summer to unleash the beast so to speak. Have to trust Payton and Mick that they see something in bridge to throw down 10 mil a year to retain . SmashMouth likes this.

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