Supplemental Draft

buzwa · 07-14-2005, 12:51 PM

Here is a link for the list of players:
http://www.clevelandbrowns.com/news_...ts/4383.0.html

Anyone in the Sup. draft worth taking by the Saints?

papz · 07-14-2005, 01:00 PM

I've read many articles about us being interested in Crosby but we already have tons of receivers on our depth chart. We really don't need another project. He has nice size, speed, etc. but so does our other receivers. He's looks in part very similiar to Gardner... we don't need another one. We just need for one of the guys here to step up next to Horn and Stallworth.

As for Wright, we have lots of players here that fit the bill physically. I'd wait and not take anyone until next year as it will be another deep draft. His 6'6 330 frames looks very Marcus Stroud-like, which is hella tempting, but I don't think he's going to be worth one of our high rounders.

4saintspirit · 07-15-2005, 09:09 AM

Originally Posted by papz

As for Wright, we have lots of players here that fit the bill physically. I'd wait and not take anyone until next year as it will be another deep draft. His 6'6 330 frames looks very Marcus Stroud-like, which is hella tempting, but I don't think he's going to be worth one of our high rounders.

Yeah -- but Miami got him in the 5th -- I would have given a 4th or a 5th for a prospect like that -- especially when we are pretty weak at that position --- once again our front office has their heads in the sand and probably think we are fine at that position

saintswhodi · 07-15-2005, 09:28 AM

Originally Posted by 4saintspirit

Originally Posted by papz

As for Wright, we have lots of players here that fit the bill physically. I'd wait and not take anyone until next year as it will be another deep draft. His 6'6 330 frames looks very Marcus Stroud-like, which is hella tempting, but I don't think he's going to be worth one of our high rounders.

Yeah -- but Miami got him in the 5th -- I would have given a 4th or a 5th for a prospect like that -- especially when we are pretty weak at that position --- once again our front office has their heads in the sand and probably think we are fine at that position

I agree whole-heartedly 4ss. A FIFTH ROUNDER?? Hell, we took Chase "Mr. Glass" Lyman in the 4th. What a wasted damn pick that was. But we won't take a chance on Wright, when we NEED DTs? In case they were unaware, our DTs suck. Bringing in more bodies to compete IS NOT a bad idea in this case. If you have a glaring weakness, you WANT more people there to attempt to fill this weakness. When I saw he went for a fifth rounder, I about puked. I think we missed out on that one. The bottom line for me is that position is nowhere near set, and if we are gonna waste 4th rounder on brittle bones players like Lyman, what would be so terrible about a 5th on Wright?

ScottyRo · 07-15-2005, 10:38 AM

Although I doubt the front office was really going to try and get him, we don't have any info that they actually weren't going to get him in the 5th round. I don't really know about the format of the sup. draft, but I would guess that the picking order is similar to the previous draft. If that's the case then it looks like Miami scooped us and we didn't get a chance to draft him in the 5th.

Anyone have any info on the sup. draft procedure?

4saintspirit · 07-15-2005, 11:01 AM

Originally Posted by ScottyRo

Although I doubt the front office was really going to try and get him, we don't have any info that they actually weren't going to get him in the 5th round. I don't really know about the format of the sup. draft, but I would guess that the picking order is similar to the previous draft. If that's the case then it looks like Miami scooped us and we didn't get a chance to draft him in the 5th.

Anyone have any info on the sup. draft procedure?

You are correct in the order -- but we could have and should drafted him when he dropped to the 4th

saintswhodi · 07-15-2005, 11:07 AM

Originally Posted by 4saintspirit

Originally Posted by ScottyRo

Although I doubt the front office was really going to try and get him, we don't have any info that they actually weren't going to get him in the 5th round. I don't really know about the format of the sup. draft, but I would guess that the picking order is similar to the previous draft. If that's the case then it looks like Miami scooped us and we didn't get a chance to draft him in the 5th.

Anyone have any info on the sup. draft procedure?

You are correct in the order -- but we could have and should drafted him when he dropped to the 4th

Exactly.

papz · 07-15-2005, 11:40 AM

Originally Posted by papz

As for Wright, we have lots of players here that fit the bill physically. I'd wait and not take anyone until next year as it will be another deep draft. His 6'6 330 frames looks very Marcus Stroud-like, which is hella tempting, but I don't think he's going to be worth one of our high rounders.

I would have definately spent a 4th or 5th on the guy. I didn't want us to do anything bone-headed and go higher. "High rounders." You know I love rookies.

It's going to be ok sw... I think we are going to be able to find another Howard Green on this team. Chase Lyman will come back next year and catch 7 touchdowns!!! :P

jbutts · 07-15-2005, 11:46 AM

maybe none of you realize this but wright has the same kind of concerns that sullivan has. Ed Orgeron formerly of USC and now Ole Miss spoke candidly about this guy saying he was consisitently overweight and lacked a strong motor. now you want to give up a pick on him? he hardly played last season beheind cody and patterson, but he merits anything more than a street free agent contract? you guys must be out of your usually very competent minds. we cant get the lyman pick back. im sorry about that too. however there is no reason to go wasting another pick on someone whos not going to contribute for another two to four more years, as i believe the best case learning curve is for a junior or senior DT.
tell me if any of these qoutes remind you of one johnathan S. or Ricky W.:
"A team is really rolling the dice. ÃƒÂ¢Ã¢Â‚Â¬?
"He's always been an enigma."
"Manny is really a mystery,"
"Wright's weight could fluctuate between 290 and 320 pounds"
"Sometimes, his attitude is very, very immature. "

http://sports.espn.go.com/nfl/column...ohn&id=2106749

and to answer another question, the sup draft is set up by lottery; all teams with less than 6 wins are put into a hat and that order is drawn. then the remaning non-playoff teams are put into a hat and the next order is drawn. then the playoff teams are put into a hat and drawn. so its similar to the april lottery as it is done by record, just more general, so there is a good chance Miami beat us to him, although as i stated thats for the best.

http://www.nfl.com/news/story/8640758

saintswhodi · 07-15-2005, 11:54 AM

I don't know if we really want get into a discussion on potential we have drafted higher. You make a fine point butts, and in principal I agree, but out DTs suck. That's the bottom line. We need to be lining up guys from New Orleans to Tuscaloosa and bringing them into camp to try and fill this position. It's a low cost high risk pick, granted. But do I really need to mention the picks we have wasted or the players we have passed on? This guy plays at a positon we need. If he works out, great. If he doesn't, what did it cost us, a 4th rounder? If that's the case, give me back my third rounders we spent on James Allen, Cie Grant, and Sed Hodge. gimme back the second rounders we spent on Devery and Stinch. Give me back the two firsts we spent on Sully definitely. We have drafted players who will sit at positions we didn't truly need for years, a 4th rounder for this guy would have been no big loss. Didn't we take a huge gamble on A-Mac? HE has as many questions about him as anyone, but the hope is he will develop here. Also, I was told John Pease was a master motivator on the d-line, isn't he supposed to be the guy that will egt Sully where we want him to be? He couldn't develop Wright?

07-14-2005, 12:51 PM	#1
buzwa Registered Join Date: Jul 2002 Posts: 94	Supplemental Draft Here is a link for the list of players: http://www.clevelandbrowns.com/news_...ts/4383.0.html Anyone in the Sup. draft worth taking by the Saints?
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07-14-2005, 01:00 PM	#2
papz Problem? Join Date: Jan 2005 Location: New Orleans Posts: 11,744	RE: Supplemental Draft I've read many articles about us being interested in Crosby but we already have tons of receivers on our depth chart. We really don't need another project. He has nice size, speed, etc. but so does our other receivers. He's looks in part very similiar to Gardner... we don't need another one. We just need for one of the guys here to step up next to Horn and Stallworth. As for Wright, we have lots of players here that fit the bill physically. I'd wait and not take anyone until next year as it will be another deep draft. His 6'6 330 frames looks very Marcus Stroud-like, which is hella tempting, but I don't think he's going to be worth one of our high rounders.

07-15-2005, 09:09 AM	#3
4saintspirit 500th Post Join Date: Dec 2002 Posts: 690	Re: RE: Supplemental Draft Originally Posted by papz As for Wright, we have lots of players here that fit the bill physically. I'd wait and not take anyone until next year as it will be another deep draft. His 6'6 330 frames looks very Marcus Stroud-like, which is hella tempting, but I don't think he's going to be worth one of our high rounders. Yeah -- but Miami got him in the 5th -- I would have given a 4th or a 5th for a prospect like that -- especially when we are pretty weak at that position --- once again our front office has their heads in the sand and probably think we are fine at that position
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07-15-2005, 09:28 AM	#4
saintswhodi 5000 POSTS! + Join Date: Oct 2004 Location: San Antonio, TX Posts: 6,941	Re: RE: Supplemental Draft Originally Posted by 4saintspirit Originally Posted by papz As for Wright, we have lots of players here that fit the bill physically. I'd wait and not take anyone until next year as it will be another deep draft. His 6'6 330 frames looks very Marcus Stroud-like, which is hella tempting, but I don't think he's going to be worth one of our high rounders. Yeah -- but Miami got him in the 5th -- I would have given a 4th or a 5th for a prospect like that -- especially when we are pretty weak at that position --- once again our front office has their heads in the sand and probably think we are fine at that position I agree whole-heartedly 4ss. A FIFTH ROUNDER?? Hell, we took Chase "Mr. Glass" Lyman in the 4th. What a wasted damn pick that was. But we won't take a chance on Wright, when we NEED DTs? In case they were unaware, our DTs suck. Bringing in more bodies to compete IS NOT a bad idea in this case. If you have a glaring weakness, you WANT more people there to attempt to fill this weakness. When I saw he went for a fifth rounder, I about puked. I think we missed out on that one. The bottom line for me is that position is nowhere near set, and if we are gonna waste 4th rounder on brittle bones players like Lyman, what would be so terrible about a 5th on Wright?

07-15-2005, 10:38 AM	#5
ScottyRo 1000 Posts + Join Date: Jun 2002 Location: Williamsburg, VA (ugh, the food here) Posts: 1,704	RE: Re: RE: Supplemental Draft Although I doubt the front office was really going to try and get him, we don't have any info that they actually weren't going to get him in the 5th round. I don't really know about the format of the sup. draft, but I would guess that the picking order is similar to the previous draft. If that's the case then it looks like Miami scooped us and we didn't get a chance to draft him in the 5th. Anyone have any info on the sup. draft procedure?

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07-15-2005, 11:01 AM	#6
4saintspirit 500th Post Join Date: Dec 2002 Posts: 690	Re: RE: Re: RE: Supplemental Draft Originally Posted by ScottyRo Although I doubt the front office was really going to try and get him, we don't have any info that they actually weren't going to get him in the 5th round. I don't really know about the format of the sup. draft, but I would guess that the picking order is similar to the previous draft. If that's the case then it looks like Miami scooped us and we didn't get a chance to draft him in the 5th. Anyone have any info on the sup. draft procedure? You are correct in the order -- but we could have and should drafted him when he dropped to the 4th
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07-15-2005, 11:07 AM	#7
saintswhodi 5000 POSTS! + Join Date: Oct 2004 Location: San Antonio, TX Posts: 6,941	Re: RE: Re: RE: Supplemental Draft Originally Posted by 4saintspirit Originally Posted by ScottyRo Although I doubt the front office was really going to try and get him, we don't have any info that they actually weren't going to get him in the 5th round. I don't really know about the format of the sup. draft, but I would guess that the picking order is similar to the previous draft. If that's the case then it looks like Miami scooped us and we didn't get a chance to draft him in the 5th. Anyone have any info on the sup. draft procedure? You are correct in the order -- but we could have and should drafted him when he dropped to the 4th Exactly.

07-15-2005, 11:40 AM	#8
papz Problem? Join Date: Jan 2005 Location: New Orleans Posts: 11,744	Re: RE: Supplemental Draft Originally Posted by papz As for Wright, we have lots of players here that fit the bill physically. I'd wait and not take anyone until next year as it will be another deep draft. His 6'6 330 frames looks very Marcus Stroud-like, which is hella tempting, but I don't think he's going to be worth one of our high rounders. I would have definately spent a 4th or 5th on the guy. I didn't want us to do anything bone-headed and go higher. "High rounders." You know I love rookies. It's going to be ok sw... I think we are going to be able to find another Howard Green on this team. Chase Lyman will come back next year and catch 7 touchdowns!!! :P

07-15-2005, 11:46 AM	#9
jbutts Registered Join Date: Apr 2003 Location: Baton Rouge Posts: 96	RE: Re: RE: Re: RE: Supplemental Draft maybe none of you realize this but wright has the same kind of concerns that sullivan has. Ed Orgeron formerly of USC and now Ole Miss spoke candidly about this guy saying he was consisitently overweight and lacked a strong motor. now you want to give up a pick on him? he hardly played last season beheind cody and patterson, but he merits anything more than a street free agent contract? you guys must be out of your usually very competent minds. we cant get the lyman pick back. im sorry about that too. however there is no reason to go wasting another pick on someone whos not going to contribute for another two to four more years, as i believe the best case learning curve is for a junior or senior DT. tell me if any of these qoutes remind you of one johnathan S. or Ricky W.: "A team is really rolling the dice. ÃƒÂ¢Ã¢Â‚Â¬? "He's always been an enigma." "Manny is really a mystery," "Wright's weight could fluctuate between 290 and 320 pounds" "Sometimes, his attitude is very, very immature. " http://sports.espn.go.com/nfl/column...ohn&id=2106749 and to answer another question, the sup draft is set up by lottery; all teams with less than 6 wins are put into a hat and that order is drawn. then the remaning non-playoff teams are put into a hat and the next order is drawn. then the playoff teams are put into a hat and drawn. so its similar to the april lottery as it is done by record, just more general, so there is a good chance Miami beat us to him, although as i stated thats for the best. http://www.nfl.com/news/story/8640758

07-15-2005, 11:54 AM	#10
saintswhodi 5000 POSTS! + Join Date: Oct 2004 Location: San Antonio, TX Posts: 6,941	I don't know if we really want get into a discussion on potential we have drafted higher. You make a fine point butts, and in principal I agree, but out DTs suck. That's the bottom line. We need to be lining up guys from New Orleans to Tuscaloosa and bringing them into camp to try and fill this position. It's a low cost high risk pick, granted. But do I really need to mention the picks we have wasted or the players we have passed on? This guy plays at a positon we need. If he works out, great. If he doesn't, what did it cost us, a 4th rounder? If that's the case, give me back my third rounders we spent on James Allen, Cie Grant, and Sed Hodge. gimme back the second rounders we spent on Devery and Stinch. Give me back the two firsts we spent on Sully definitely. We have drafted players who will sit at positions we didn't truly need for years, a 4th rounder for this guy would have been no big loss. Didn't we take a huge gamble on A-Mac? HE has as many questions about him as anyone, but the hope is he will develop here. Also, I was told John Pease was a master motivator on the d-line, isn't he supposed to be the guy that will egt Sully where we want him to be? He couldn't develop Wright?