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ChrisXVI 09-07-2019 05:10 PM

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AB gets exactly what he wants. Act like a fool to get your release and go sign with the Pats for an easy route to the Super Bowl.

AsylumGuido 09-07-2019 05:35 PM

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Originally Posted by rezburna (Post 853795)
If your locker room and organization can’t handle a bad boy then it’s not a winning franchise.



Exactly. I’m sure Belichick told him you toe our company line or you’re gone again. He’ll tell it like it is and stand behind it every step of the way. None of this placating the player and the press.

CHA_CHING 09-07-2019 05:42 PM

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Originally Posted by AsylumGuido (Post 853802)
Exactly. I’m sure Belichick told him you toe our company line or you’re gone again. He’ll tell it like it is and stand behind it every step of the way. None of this placating the player and the press.

That's pretty much what they did with James Harrison. Belichick put him in the starting lineup as soon as he signed with the Patriots in late 2017.

This all goes back to Tomlin in Pittsburgh. Harrison went from being a "locker room cancer" there, to getting it together in NE.

Brown is a huge trouble maker but he'll most likely get it together now with the Pats.

On the other hand, there is also Le'Veon Bell who clowned his way out of Pittsburgh.

Eventually people are going to have to take off the blinders and stop giving Tomlin a free pass for not coaching these guys up.

Utah_Saint 09-07-2019 06:00 PM

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Originally Posted by ChrisXVI (Post 853799)
AB gets exactly what he wants. Act like a fool to get your release and go sign with the Pats for an easy route to the Super Bowl.

Crazy like a fox.

st thomas 09-07-2019 06:26 PM

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Originally Posted by Utah_Saint (Post 853808)
Crazy like a fox.



And Kansas City just went on suicide watch

neugey 09-07-2019 06:38 PM

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Here's hoping the Steelers meet the Pats in the first round of the playoffs and absolutely annihilate them.

st thomas 09-07-2019 06:39 PM

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What is the meaning of collusion ?

jnormand 09-07-2019 06:48 PM

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Who in their right mind would want this tool bag on our team? This guy is an embarrassment to himself, professional sports, and men in general.

What a selfish, self righteous, arrogant piece of ****.

Lol. I hope he breaks his legs.

vpheughan 09-07-2019 07:24 PM

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Originally Posted by st thomas (Post 853811)
What is the meaning of collusion ?

secret or illegal cooperation or conspiracy, especially in order to cheat or deceive others.

Sounds like what AB did with the Raiders.

CHA_CHING 09-07-2019 08:37 PM

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Originally Posted by neugey (Post 853810)
Here's hoping the Steelers meet the Pats in the first round of the playoffs and absolutely annihilate them.

We have been hearing the whole "Steelers are going to beat the Pats in the playoffs!" talk since 2001 and it has yet to happen.

Pittsburgh will do what they have done for the past 8 years - play down to their competition, barely squeaking it out vs crappy teams while dropping some of those games and ultimately disappoint with all their high end talent. It's what they do under Tomlin.

CHA_CHING 09-07-2019 08:41 PM

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Checking in with the Pats fans I know (as some of you know, I hang out on their forums often).

They are pretty divided over AB. Some of them are ecstatic while others are worried this will blow up in their faces.

The Pats have needed an upgrade at WR since losing Hogan. Even though he was a disappointment last year, he still had some big moments in the playoffs.

Gordon is not 100% and the fans know this. They've been debating about if he will step away again this year.

None of this is counting the absence of Gronk, whom was one of their keys for the past several years.

It's a crazy move but in hindsight, I can see why the Pats rolled the dice here. It's a high risk/high reward deal.

WillSaints81 09-07-2019 08:47 PM

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Originally Posted by The Dude (Post 853778)
Not while we have another diva WR on the team. Thomas is going to wind up almost as bad. Watch.

Hard to see it now but I agree. The Saints signed him real quick to be sure no drama looms but I think it was just for this season or while Brees is in his prime. They didn't let the Graham situation consume them and they won't let this either.

Also, his social media activity is very telling. But I think our FO is 100% ahead.

CHA_CHING 09-07-2019 09:40 PM

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Originally Posted by WillSaints81 (Post 853819)
Hard to see it now but I agree. The Saints signed him real quick to be sure no drama looms but I think it was just for this season or while Brees is in his prime. They didn't let the Graham situation consume them and they won't let this either.

Also, his social media activity is very telling. But I think our FO is 100% ahead.

Graham had regressed hard through 2014. We won that trade in the end.

I sometimes wonder if Graham regressed due to injuries we didn't know about cause I remember him taking some brutal hits in 2012, 2013 and all through 2014. He was so dominant at stretches during those seasons, it was like teams were targeting him and intentionally roughing him up.

hitta 09-07-2019 11:04 PM

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Originally Posted by CHA_CHING (Post 853820)
Graham had regressed hard through 2014. We won that trade in the end.

I sometimes wonder if Graham regressed due to injuries we didn't know about cause I remember him taking some brutal hits in 2012, 2013 and all through 2014. He was so dominant at stretches during those seasons, it was like teams were targeting him and intentionally roughing him up.

Graham definitely took a bunch of shots here in New Orleans. Also, I love Russell Wilson, he's a great player. His play style though is physically tough on receivers. He scrambles a bit to find throwing lanes and dumps the ball off into traffic quite often because of the angles he's able to throw and his guys take some pretty significant hits. It's great QB play, but it definitely is taxing.

The Dude 09-08-2019 12:26 AM

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The NFL has officially become as scripted as WWE and they aren’t even trying to hide it. The drama just adds another level of entertainment the NFL can cash in on and they will continue to allow and precipitate these soap opera type stories for as long as people keep clicking and tuning in. It used to be a ball game but now it’s just a year long reality series.
You can call it over. The Saints have absolutely zero chance of winning anything the way things are.

CHA_CHING 09-08-2019 12:39 AM

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Originally Posted by hitta (Post 853825)
Graham definitely took a bunch of shots here in New Orleans. Also, I love Russell Wilson, he's a great player. His play style though is physically tough on receivers. He scrambles a bit to find throwing lanes and dumps the ball off into traffic quite often because of the angles he's able to throw and his guys take some pretty significant hits. It's great QB play, but it definitely is taxing.

I agree with you on Wilson. His play style is often compared to Fran Tarkenton on NFL stat site communities. There's been a lot of discussions comparing the two with their scrambling and always extending plays the way they do.

The longer a play drags out like that, the tougher it is for receivers to get separation and often times it has to end the way you described, forcing a play into coverage.

jeanpierre 09-08-2019 01:11 AM

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First week of the season after the worst non-call in NFL Playoffs history, and we're talkin' 'bout A-f*cking-B - guess that selfish MoFo gets what he wants even in #WhoDatNation...

subguy 09-08-2019 06:47 AM

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The coaches have to manage the team and obviously the GM has some say. If I have an employee that caused that kind of disruption...good riddance. Mayock has the authority. There were no mixed signals, Brown wanted to control the team...a double good riddance. It is not a case of "the man" doing anything but trying to control the team, which is his job. NE did what NE does. If the disruption continues there, we will see what happens, that will be interesting.

RailBoss 09-08-2019 12:20 PM

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Great move for Belichick he'll gain a huge target for Brady and AB will have to prove a point in NE and make it work.

st thomas 09-08-2019 12:38 PM

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Originally Posted by jeanpierre (Post 853832)
First week of the season after the worst non-call in NFL Playoffs history, and we're talkin' 'bout A-f*cking-B - guess that selfish MoFo gets what he wants even in #WhoDatNation...



I love it

hitta 09-08-2019 01:21 PM

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It'd be hilarious if it turned out that this was a plan by AB and the Patriots. AB would purposely get released by going ape**** over a lot of stuff and then Belichick would just come in and scoop him up. There have been crazier things that have occurred.

hitta 09-08-2019 01:23 PM

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Bahaha 5 seconds after I post this I see this.. https://www.espn.com/nfl/story/_/id/...e-raiders-exit Brown has probably been studying the Patriots playbook all offseason to prep.

TheOak 09-08-2019 01:25 PM

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Originally Posted by hitta (Post 853900)
It'd be hilarious if it turned out that this was a plan by AB and the Patriots. AB would purposely get released by going ape**** over a lot of stuff and then Belichick would just come in and scoop him up. There have been crazier things that have occurred.

That came up in discussion on NFLSirius... If that turns out to be the case its sad. I saw people legitimately concerned for the guy's health and some stood up an argued in his defense....

lee909 09-08-2019 02:25 PM

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The league should be investigating both collusion and tampering. No way the Pats were not behind him pushing that as far as he could to get waived. The signing was far too quick

jnormand 09-08-2019 02:53 PM

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Looks like the other lost "Killer B" (Bell) isn't doing much for the Jets. Steelers were wise to cut ties with Bell and Brown. Both of them are clowns.

Crusader 09-09-2019 02:21 AM

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I'm glad we didn't try to sign him. I still can't believe the Raiders just didn't put him on the Reserve/Left squad list and just ended his season.

I'm just tired of jackass players acting like they should call the shots. The NFL exists for two reasons, to entertain the paying customers and
to make the owners richer. The player are an expendable workforce and AB needed to be reminded of that.

CheramieIII 09-09-2019 03:36 AM

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If you didn't have cancer you wouldn't inject yourself with it!

rezburna 09-09-2019 07:59 AM

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Originally Posted by jnormand (Post 853926)
Looks like the other lost "Killer B" (Bell) isn't doing much for the Jets. Steelers were wise to cut ties with Bell and Brown. Both of them are clowns.

Not after a 30 point loss where James Connor was non-existent and Ju Ju couldn’t get open to save his life. Plus Bell scored the only offensive TD for the Jets.

Rugby Saint II 09-09-2019 12:11 PM

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As Payton would say "next question". Or as Barney fife would say " there's nothing to see here. Move along. Move along...…."

ScottF 09-09-2019 02:50 PM

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Originally Posted by Crusader (Post 853977)
I'm glad we didn't try to sign him. I still can't believe the Raiders just didn't put him on the Reserve/Left squad list and just ended his season.

I'm just tired of jackass players acting like they should call the shots. The NFL exists for two reasons, to entertain the paying customers and
to make the owners richer. The player are an expendable workforce and AB needed to be reminded of that.

but Brown was "reminded" with a $15 million payday and shot at a ring

it's absolutely nauseating

foreverfan 09-09-2019 03:14 PM

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Originally Posted by hitta (Post 853900)
It'd be hilarious if it turned out that this was a plan by AB and the Patriots. AB would purposely get released by going ape**** over a lot of stuff and then Belichick would just come in and scoop him up. There have been crazier things that have occurred.

AB was NO DOUBT on the phone with BB asking what is taking so F*****g long. :o

CHA_CHING 09-09-2019 03:42 PM

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All this talk about AB, and yet the Pats smoked Pittsburgh last night without him.

That's the power of coaching. Don't matter how much high end talent Pittsburgh ends up with. They're coached by a clown.

TheOak 09-09-2019 04:59 PM

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