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ScottF 09-07-2019 11:13 AM

Antonio Brown...should we?
 
Just kidding. Wouldn't even want him for vet minimum

vpheughan 09-07-2019 11:25 AM

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The Panthers!! Two guys pouting on the bench with towels over their heads!!! Purrrrrrrrrrrrfict!!!

Euphoria 09-07-2019 11:26 AM

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actually we should be making phone calls... and see behind the scenes because what is going to happen is that NE is going to step in and sign him.

Whats wrong with a one year deal?

Lord_Saint83 09-07-2019 11:29 AM

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Originally Posted by Euphoria (Post 853742)
actually we should be making phone calls... and see behind the scenes because what is going to happen is that NE is going to step in and sign him.

Whats wrong with a one year deal?

Idk if Belichick would even touch this guy with a ten foot pole.

st thomas 09-07-2019 11:34 AM

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Let NE have that clown. I believe he wanted out of raiders trash team when he saw what it really looked like. So stomp ur feet and cause crap to get out and he succeeded. He with go to Boston and behave. That is all.

saintfan 09-07-2019 11:35 AM

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He'd call Loomis a 'cracker' one time, and one time only, and that'd be that.

It's almost like the guy never wanted to be in Oakland and he was trying to get himself fired.

hitta 09-07-2019 11:39 AM

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Originally Posted by saintfan (Post 853746)
He'd call Loomis a 'cracker' one time, and one time only, and that'd be that.

It's almost like the guy never wanted to be in Oakland and he was trying to get himself fired.

I actually disagree with that. Loomis tries hard to remain neutral and let the locker room dynamics do their own thing. Mayock inserted himself into an issue that seemed like was already solved. Brown was was ready to play with a new helmet. Gruden was fine with him. Mayock is a douchebag. I don't like Brown, but this isn't entirely his fault imo. If the coach wanted the guy gone, then he should be gone. This was more about Mayock wanting to validate his authority or some ****.

st thomas 09-07-2019 11:47 AM

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Originally Posted by hitta (Post 853748)
I actually disagree with that. Loomis tries hard to remain neutral and let the locker room dynamics do their own thing. Mayock inserted himself into an issue that seemed like was already solved. Brown was was ready to play with a new helmet. Gruden was fine with him. Mayock is a douchebag. I don't like Brown, but this isn't entirely his fault imo. If the coach wanted the guy gone, then he should be gone. This was more about Mayock wanting to validate his authority or some ****.



I hear ya but Brown is a pre Madonna -dough bag but is good and he wonít be in my locker room ever ever ever.

K Major 09-07-2019 11:51 AM

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Man hell naw.

This team has no time to be playing games with a malcontent.

It's too hard trying to win games without distractions as it is.

hitta 09-07-2019 11:53 AM

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Originally Posted by st thomas (Post 853750)
I hear ya but Brown is a pre Madonna -dough bag but is good and he won’t be in my locker room ever ever ever.

Yea, I mean there is no disputing that. My issue is for weeks now, you've had all the coaches and the organizations talk about how much they supported him over the helmet issue. Then suddenly, a week before the season, you fine him to the point where it voids his guaranteed money. It really just feels like Mayock wanted to display his authority. It feels like mixed messages, and Mayock should have let Gruden decide how to handle it. Not have some sort of weird dick measuring contest. Brown was ready to play, chose a new helmet and everything. Something just feels very wrong with how this was handled. You either tell him to get his ass on the field a few weeks back and say that you were upset with how Brown was handling things, or you let it go. The whole thing is a giant bag of mixed signals . This is not how you run a front office. Loomis would never do this kind of ****.

hitta 09-07-2019 11:55 AM

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Originally Posted by K Major (Post 853752)
Man hell naw.

This team has no time to be playing games with a malcontent.

It's too hard trying to win games without distractions as it is.

They were already playing games though when they said they were completely behind him throughout a big portion of the offseason. You can't just suddenly change your stance. I think Brown was being a baby over the helmet. The Raiders chose to let him be a baby. You don't just suddenly grow a spine.

vpheughan 09-07-2019 12:04 PM

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Imagine that? Consequences for your actions? Doesn't Mayock realize he's dealing with an NFL PLAYER. Every other player on the team should just take a day off when they want to. That's how you build a "TEAM"

neugey 09-07-2019 12:09 PM

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Would it be allowed to make a lobotomy part of AB's physical?

rezburna 09-07-2019 12:10 PM

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Yep.

hitta 09-07-2019 12:13 PM

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Originally Posted by vpheughan (Post 853756)
Imagine that? Consequences for your actions? Doesn't Mayock realize he's dealing with an NFL PLAYER. Every other player on the team should just take a day off when they want to. That's how you build a "TEAM"

There should be consequences for what he did. They should have threatened fines weeks ago, unless he was injured. This may have even gotten AB on the field a lot earlier. Instead they balked at this. Then a week before the game Mayock tried to reassert authority. This is not his job, this is Gruden's job. Hell, this literally happened on the practice field, during practice. If Gruden was fine with whatever was occurring, Mayock should have stayed out of it. He's not the coach. I can almost guarantee you Gruden had a plan for how to treat Brown. What do you think would happen if Loomis came onto the practice field and started policing players behaviors during practice. Payton would be pissed. The practice field is not the GMs domain.

dizzle88 09-07-2019 12:24 PM

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Kind of Ironic that Mayocks last job was to evaluate talent and their biggest signing in his first offseason practices a few times and then near enough rips their team apart.

foreverfan 09-07-2019 12:27 PM

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Antonio Brown destroys the Golden State.

https://media.giphy.com/media/cTWnTtmWmR4is/giphy.gif

vpheughan 09-07-2019 12:31 PM

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According to Josiana Anderson of ESPN, Brown, who was upset with the fine given to him by the team, saw Mayock during practice and walked over to him to discuss the issue.

According to a team source, Mayock was trying to keep his cool and diffuse the situation from escalating any more.

The GM being on the field is "policing?" Brown confronted Mayock over the "Fine Letter"

TheOak 09-07-2019 12:55 PM

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Originally Posted by hitta (Post 853760)
There should be consequences for what he did. They should have threatened fines weeks ago, unless he was injured. This may have even gotten AB on the field a lot earlier. Instead they balked at this. Then a week before the game Mayock tried to reassert authority. This is not his job, this is Gruden's job. Hell, this literally happened on the practice field, during practice. If Gruden was fine with whatever was occurring, Mayock should have stayed out of it. He's not the coach. I can almost guarantee you Gruden had a plan for how to treat Brown. What do you think would happen if Loomis came onto the practice field and started policing players behaviors during practice. Payton would be pissed. The practice field is not the GMs domain.

These things are so difficult to understand much less sort out. The only thing we truly know is that we have been told things by the media or people in front of microphones. The surface on all sides is a facade.

If you and I have a beef with our employer its us, a manager, maybe HR... A beef with your employer in the NFL is a player, agent, NFLPA, Owner, GM, coach, the League... Some things are said in public, some things are said because the person is in public, and some things are behind closed doors.

To pick a side in this is really a fools errand, no?


All we really know is that a player found himself sideways with the league over a helmet and that's not a smart move. Just a soon not deal with someone that wins that sort of stupid prize.

Barry from MS 09-07-2019 12:58 PM

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AB had problems with management in Pittsburg...not his fault.

AB had problems with management in Oakland...not his fault.

We should bring him in cause clearly these issues with management are not AB's fault.

ChrisXVI 09-07-2019 01:14 PM

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Well on the one hand we’re trotting out Austin Carr...

Still a no from me.

Beastmode 09-07-2019 01:24 PM

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The cause of his antics could be unfortunately brain damage from playing football. Somebody else was doing crazy stuff not so long ago. That person had one of the worse cases ever seen.

He needs a brain scan. He wasn't acting like this before. It's a recent thing to my knowledge.

RailBoss 09-07-2019 01:27 PM

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Not Coach Payton's M.O. to bring in a AB type of player.
Not to mention if you can't get along with the Raiders that's
usually the last stop for NFL Villains.

stickman 09-07-2019 01:41 PM

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No, because Michael Thomas is our clear #1 and I don't think AB would accept being second to anyone.

Just don't want him in our division. He is, after all, THAT good.

neugey 09-07-2019 02:02 PM

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Originally Posted by TheOak (Post 853766)
If you and I have a beef with our employer its us, a manager, maybe HR... A beef with your employer in the NFL is a player, agent, NFLPA, Owner, GM, coach, the League... Some things are said in public, some things are said because the person is in public, and some things are behind closed doors.


Thing is, Brown keeps incriminating himself with his output on social media. He's leaving an electronic trail of his own ridiculousness. Makes it awful easy for me to pick a side.

SmashMouth 09-07-2019 02:19 PM

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Originally Posted by rezburna (Post 853759)
Yep.

Do the Raiders pick up the majority of his salary?

The Dude 09-07-2019 02:25 PM

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Not while we have another diva WR on the team. Thomas is going to wind up almost as bad. Watch.

Beastmode 09-07-2019 02:27 PM

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All I know is the man is amazing on the field. A.J. Bouye, one of the best CB's said he is the best WR he ever had to cover. Many other CB's have said the same.

AB basically does not show his hands until the last split second. Very difficult to do. Moss was also good at keeping the "hands in the pocket" until it's time to snatch it. He also knows how to create space without getting penalized, another unique skill.

Wish him the best. He has the ability to turn a weaker team into a contender by himself.

The Dude 09-07-2019 02:27 PM

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Originally Posted by Beastmode (Post 853769)
The cause of his antics could be unfortunately brain damage from playing football. Somebody else was doing crazy stuff not so long ago. That person had one of the worse cases ever seen.

He needs a brain scan. He wasn't acting like this before. It's a recent thing to my knowledge.

I think Newton has the same problem. His off the field antics have gotten progressively worse the last few years. Heís not an ******* so much as he is just weird and bazaar.

Beastmode 09-07-2019 02:30 PM

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Originally Posted by The Dude (Post 853780)
I think Newton has the same problem. His off the field antics have gotten progressively worse the last few years. Heís not an ******* so much as he is just weird and bazaar.


Could be. There is a video of him breaking stupid Guinness Records that never existed like longest completed pass to a blindfolded receiver and longest pass caught between the legs. Very silly and not something a Pro QB should be goofing around with but meh....could be worse.

TheOak 09-07-2019 02:31 PM

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TheOak 09-07-2019 02:35 PM

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Originally Posted by neugey (Post 853773)
Thing is, Brown keeps incriminating himself with his output on social media. He's leaving an electronic trail of his own ridiculousness. Makes it awful easy for me to pick a side.

Making a decision on someoneís actions if slightly different than picking a side in a he said/she said.

I donít have to think someone is right or wrong to know they are an a$$. :bng:

rezburna 09-07-2019 02:50 PM

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Originally Posted by SmashMouth (Post 853777)
Do the Raiders pick up the majority of his salary?

His contract is voided. He has to negotiate a new one.

K Major 09-07-2019 03:12 PM

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Not sure if anyone listened to Sean Payton at today's press conference but he has no interest in signing AB.

frydaddy 09-07-2019 03:24 PM

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A thousand million times no. I used to love the guy, now I hope he's already played his last game as a professional. His attitude is completely undeserving of another chance. He would need a lot of counseling and time to realize what an idiot he is, and then would need to show that he is genuinely sorry and prepared to change before I could ever root for him again.

frydaddy 09-07-2019 03:27 PM

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Originally Posted by TheOak (Post 853782)
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He's managed to make T.O. look like a model citizen.

Euphoria 09-07-2019 04:07 PM

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Originally Posted by Lord_Saint83 (Post 853744)
Idk if Belichick would even touch this guy with a ten foot pole.

News flash he just signed with NE.
They did the same thing with Moss when Moss was a problem and Hayden... Its ok to take risks it only wins you SB's.

rezburna 09-07-2019 04:07 PM

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1 year $15 million from New England. He won again.

rezburna 09-07-2019 04:08 PM

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Originally Posted by Euphoria (Post 853793)
News flash he just signed with NE.
They did the same thing with Moss when Moss was a problem and Hayden... Its ok to take risks it only wins you SB's.

If your locker room and organization canít handle a bad boy then itís not a winning franchise.

TheOak 09-07-2019 04:10 PM

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