Antonio Brown...should we?

CHA_CHING · 09-07-2019, 09:41 PM

Checking in with the Pats fans I know (as some of you know, I hang out on their forums often).

They are pretty divided over AB. Some of them are ecstatic while others are worried this will blow up in their faces.

The Pats have needed an upgrade at WR since losing Hogan. Even though he was a disappointment last year, he still had some big moments in the playoffs.

Gordon is not 100% and the fans know this. They've been debating about if he will step away again this year.

None of this is counting the absence of Gronk, whom was one of their keys for the past several years.

It's a crazy move but in hindsight, I can see why the Pats rolled the dice here. It's a high risk/high reward deal.

WillSaints81 · 09-07-2019, 09:47 PM

Originally Posted by The Dude

Not while we have another diva WR on the team. Thomas is going to wind up almost as bad. Watch.

Hard to see it now but I agree. The Saints signed him real quick to be sure no drama looms but I think it was just for this season or while Brees is in his prime. They didn't let the Graham situation consume them and they won't let this either.

Also, his social media activity is very telling. But I think our FO is 100% ahead.

CHA_CHING · 09-07-2019, 10:40 PM

Originally Posted by WillSaints81

Hard to see it now but I agree. The Saints signed him real quick to be sure no drama looms but I think it was just for this season or while Brees is in his prime. They didn't let the Graham situation consume them and they won't let this either.

Also, his social media activity is very telling. But I think our FO is 100% ahead.

Graham had regressed hard through 2014. We won that trade in the end.

I sometimes wonder if Graham regressed due to injuries we didn't know about cause I remember him taking some brutal hits in 2012, 2013 and all through 2014. He was so dominant at stretches during those seasons, it was like teams were targeting him and intentionally roughing him up.

hitta · 09-08-2019, 12:04 AM

Originally Posted by CHA_CHING

Graham had regressed hard through 2014. We won that trade in the end.

I sometimes wonder if Graham regressed due to injuries we didn't know about cause I remember him taking some brutal hits in 2012, 2013 and all through 2014. He was so dominant at stretches during those seasons, it was like teams were targeting him and intentionally roughing him up.

Graham definitely took a bunch of shots here in New Orleans. Also, I love Russell Wilson, he's a great player. His play style though is physically tough on receivers. He scrambles a bit to find throwing lanes and dumps the ball off into traffic quite often because of the angles he's able to throw and his guys take some pretty significant hits. It's great QB play, but it definitely is taxing.

The Dude · 09-08-2019, 01:26 AM

The NFL has officially become as scripted as WWE and they aren’t even trying to hide it. The drama just adds another level of entertainment the NFL can cash in on and they will continue to allow and precipitate these soap opera type stories for as long as people keep clicking and tuning in. It used to be a ball game but now it’s just a year long reality series.
You can call it over. The Saints have absolutely zero chance of winning anything the way things are.

CHA_CHING · 09-08-2019, 01:39 AM

Originally Posted by hitta

Graham definitely took a bunch of shots here in New Orleans. Also, I love Russell Wilson, he's a great player. His play style though is physically tough on receivers. He scrambles a bit to find throwing lanes and dumps the ball off into traffic quite often because of the angles he's able to throw and his guys take some pretty significant hits. It's great QB play, but it definitely is taxing.

I agree with you on Wilson. His play style is often compared to Fran Tarkenton on NFL stat site communities. There's been a lot of discussions comparing the two with their scrambling and always extending plays the way they do.

The longer a play drags out like that, the tougher it is for receivers to get separation and often times it has to end the way you described, forcing a play into coverage.

jeanpierre · 09-08-2019, 02:11 AM

First week of the season after the worst non-call in NFL Playoffs history, and we're talkin' 'bout A-f*cking-B - guess that selfish MoFo gets what he wants even in #WhoDatNation...

subguy · 09-08-2019, 07:47 AM

The coaches have to manage the team and obviously the GM has some say. If I have an employee that caused that kind of disruption...good riddance. Mayock has the authority. There were no mixed signals, Brown wanted to control the team...a double good riddance. It is not a case of "the man" doing anything but trying to control the team, which is his job. NE did what NE does. If the disruption continues there, we will see what happens, that will be interesting.

RailBoss · 09-08-2019, 01:20 PM

Great move for Belichick he'll gain a huge target for Brady and AB will have to prove a point in NE and make it work.

st thomas · 09-08-2019, 01:38 PM

Originally Posted by jeanpierre

First week of the season after the worst non-call in NFL Playoffs history, and we're talkin' 'bout A-f*cking-B - guess that selfish MoFo gets what he wants even in #WhoDatNation...

I love it

09-07-2019, 09:41 PM	#51
CHA_CHING 1000 Posts + Join Date: Jan 2019 Location: Mobile, AL Posts: 1,159	Re: Antonio Brown...should we? Checking in with the Pats fans I know (as some of you know, I hang out on their forums often). They are pretty divided over AB. Some of them are ecstatic while others are worried this will blow up in their faces. The Pats have needed an upgrade at WR since losing Hogan. Even though he was a disappointment last year, he still had some big moments in the playoffs. Gordon is not 100% and the fans know this. They've been debating about if he will step away again this year. None of this is counting the absence of Gronk, whom was one of their keys for the past several years. It's a crazy move but in hindsight, I can see why the Pats rolled the dice here. It's a high risk/high reward deal.

09-07-2019, 09:47 PM	#52
WillSaints81 1000 Posts + Join Date: Oct 2012 Posts: 4,267	Re: Antonio Brown...should we? Originally Posted by The Dude Not while we have another diva WR on the team. Thomas is going to wind up almost as bad. Watch. Hard to see it now but I agree. The Saints signed him real quick to be sure no drama looms but I think it was just for this season or while Brees is in his prime. They didn't let the Graham situation consume them and they won't let this either. Also, his social media activity is very telling. But I think our FO is 100% ahead.

09-07-2019, 10:40 PM	#53
CHA_CHING 1000 Posts + Join Date: Jan 2019 Location: Mobile, AL Posts: 1,159	Re: Antonio Brown...should we? Originally Posted by WillSaints81 Hard to see it now but I agree. The Saints signed him real quick to be sure no drama looms but I think it was just for this season or while Brees is in his prime. They didn't let the Graham situation consume them and they won't let this either. Also, his social media activity is very telling. But I think our FO is 100% ahead. Graham had regressed hard through 2014. We won that trade in the end. I sometimes wonder if Graham regressed due to injuries we didn't know about cause I remember him taking some brutal hits in 2012, 2013 and all through 2014. He was so dominant at stretches during those seasons, it was like teams were targeting him and intentionally roughing him up. foreverfan likes this.

09-08-2019, 12:04 AM	#54
hitta 1000 Posts + Join Date: Oct 2009 Posts: 1,324	Re: Antonio Brown...should we? Originally Posted by CHA_CHING Graham had regressed hard through 2014. We won that trade in the end. I sometimes wonder if Graham regressed due to injuries we didn't know about cause I remember him taking some brutal hits in 2012, 2013 and all through 2014. He was so dominant at stretches during those seasons, it was like teams were targeting him and intentionally roughing him up. Graham definitely took a bunch of shots here in New Orleans. Also, I love Russell Wilson, he's a great player. His play style though is physically tough on receivers. He scrambles a bit to find throwing lanes and dumps the ball off into traffic quite often because of the angles he's able to throw and his guys take some pretty significant hits. It's great QB play, but it definitely is taxing. CHA_CHING likes this.
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09-08-2019, 01:26 AM	#55
The Dude 5000 POSTS! + Join Date: Jul 2011 Posts: 9,050	Re: Antonio Brown...should we? The NFL has officially become as scripted as WWE and they aren’t even trying to hide it. The drama just adds another level of entertainment the NFL can cash in on and they will continue to allow and precipitate these soap opera type stories for as long as people keep clicking and tuning in. It used to be a ball game but now it’s just a year long reality series. You can call it over. The Saints have absolutely zero chance of winning anything the way things are.
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09-08-2019, 01:39 AM	#56
CHA_CHING 1000 Posts + Join Date: Jan 2019 Location: Mobile, AL Posts: 1,159	Re: Antonio Brown...should we? Originally Posted by hitta Graham definitely took a bunch of shots here in New Orleans. Also, I love Russell Wilson, he's a great player. His play style though is physically tough on receivers. He scrambles a bit to find throwing lanes and dumps the ball off into traffic quite often because of the angles he's able to throw and his guys take some pretty significant hits. It's great QB play, but it definitely is taxing. I agree with you on Wilson. His play style is often compared to Fran Tarkenton on NFL stat site communities. There's been a lot of discussions comparing the two with their scrambling and always extending plays the way they do. The longer a play drags out like that, the tougher it is for receivers to get separation and often times it has to end the way you described, forcing a play into coverage.

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subguy 1000 Posts + Join Date: Aug 2002 Location: FL Posts: 2,096	Re: Antonio Brown...should we? The coaches have to manage the team and obviously the GM has some say. If I have an employee that caused that kind of disruption...good riddance. Mayock has the authority. There were no mixed signals, Brown wanted to control the team...a double good riddance. It is not a case of "the man" doing anything but trying to control the team, which is his job. NE did what NE does. If the disruption continues there, we will see what happens, that will be interesting.

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st thomas Site Donor 2018 Join Date: Dec 2009 Location: lafayette Posts: 7,753	Re: Antonio Brown...should we? Originally Posted by jeanpierre *First week of the season after the worst non-call in NFL Playoffs history, and we're talkin' 'bout A-fcking-B - guess that selfish MoFo gets what he wants even in #WhoDatNation...** I love it rezburna likes this.