2020 Season / Next CBA

TheOak · 09-09-2019, 09:23 AM

Originally Posted by SmashMouth

Salaries are beyond out of hand, especially for the upper tier players. NFL Fans really cannot afford to go games anymore, especially if they have a family they want to bring.

Rookie wage scale to stay, as it should be. Maybe the time has also come for a veterans wage scale.

NFL trying to unearth new revenues streams, although it is getting tough to see just where they think they can get them.

Saints have a ton of new contracts on the horizon. Notwithstanding the ones already mentioned by TheOak, Kamara and Hill say hello.

The mob is fickle is it not...

A CEO making $5MM bearing the liability and overseeing a company that provides goods/services that are crucial to quality of life is grossly overpaid and deemed Satan's taint..

Then someones favorite athlete comes up for a $100MM contract.. "PAY DA MAN"!

The league doesn't care much about ticket sales as they are a finite commodity and go to the stadium/team in contrast to television rights and commercials which are a wide open resource.

SmashMouth · 09-09-2019, 09:29 AM

Originally Posted by TheOak

television rights and commercials which are a wide open resource.

... for now.

I'd be curious to see the revenue growth chart. It can't keep going up and up forever, can it? Many have turned off the NFL with all the foolishness that evidently continues to happen.

jeanpierre · 09-09-2019, 09:55 AM

Originally Posted by SmashMouth

... for now.

I'd be curious to see the revenue growth chart. It can't keep going up and up forever, can it? Many have turned off the NFL with all the foolishness that evidently continues to happen.

It's not just market saturation, Smash; it's developing multiple revenue streams within that market...

Take for example a local bank paying to be the official bank of the team; then they get to make a nickel on every bank card issued with the logo...

Once the demand is established for the card with the team logo, maybe .05% of the bank's cut on every transaction with the card...

Eat at a local diner/truck stop (home cooking vs fast food), anyways, you should see the people buying Louisiana Lottery Tickets with the Saints Logo, what's that cut?

It's creating multiple revenue marketing streams that has allowed that growth...

Now is a player worth millions of dollars? Let me ask these questions for context:

What is a family of four attending a game in the loge section with season tickets spending? More accurately, what is a large corporation spending for two business execs and their traveling secretaries spending?

If a team is winning because of superior talented players, and the stadium is packed vs barely 20% and fans wearing bags with a 6-10 season, who's bringing in that extra income when teams are rocking it?

Are fans coming to see Drew Brees? or, Are fans coming to see the Saints? or, Are fans coming for the game experience? or, Are fans coming to see the Saints' Drew Brees for a terrific game experience?

It is crazy one person earns that much; but if he's putting in the work to be elite, and the results are directly attributable to his talent, work, and that yields x amount of dollars, how much should he have earned?

TheOak · 09-09-2019, 02:54 PM

Originally Posted by jeanpierre

It is crazy one person earns that much; but if he's putting in the work to be elite, and the results are directly attributable to his talent, work, and that yields x amount of dollars, how much should he have earned?

I have never begrudged anyone what so ever for what they are able to make; CEO, Athlete, Research Chemist, Artist, Musician, Entertainer.... I do not believe in class warfare.... It's low character, I was merely pointing out how the mob is fickle lol.

People get way too hung up on worth, whether its an item for sale or an employee, none of them are worth more than what someone is willing to pay.. What someone is willing to pay someone else is none of my business. I am agreeing with you

TheOak · 09-09-2019, 10:13 AM

Originally Posted by SmashMouth

... for now.

I'd be curious to see the revenue growth chart. It can't keep going up and up forever, can it? Many have turned off the NFL with all the foolishness that evidently continues to happen.

If you are asking a Marketing Director the answer is always yes... I have never met one that said 'nahhh'... They throw **** at the sky and hope nothing falls, if it falls that's okay falling has a specific marketable value as well.

09-09-2019, 09:23 AM	#1
TheOak 10000 POST CLUB Join Date: Dec 2009 Location: Cypress Tx. Posts: 19,047	Re: 2020 Season / Next CBA Originally Posted by SmashMouth Salaries are beyond out of hand, especially for the upper tier players. NFL Fans really cannot afford to go games anymore, especially if they have a family they want to bring. Rookie wage scale to stay, as it should be. Maybe the time has also come for a veterans wage scale. NFL trying to unearth new revenues streams, although it is getting tough to see just where they think they can get them. Saints have a ton of new contracts on the horizon. Notwithstanding the ones already mentioned by TheOak, Kamara and Hill say hello. The mob is fickle is it not... A CEO making $5MM bearing the liability and overseeing a company that provides goods/services that are crucial to quality of life is grossly overpaid and deemed Satan's taint.. Then someones favorite athlete comes up for a $100MM contract.. "PAY DA MAN"! The league doesn't care much about ticket sales as they are a finite commodity and go to the stadium/team in contrast to television rights and commercials which are a wide open resource. The Dude likes this.

09-09-2019, 09:29 AM	#2
SmashMouth I donated, did you? Join Date: Sep 2007 Location: Mandeville, LA Posts: 38,782 Blog Entries: 29	Re: 2020 Season / Next CBA Originally Posted by TheOak television rights and commercials which are a wide open resource. ... for now. I'd be curious to see the revenue growth chart. It can't keep going up and up forever, can it? Many have turned off the NFL with all the foolishness that evidently continues to happen. Rugby Saint II likes this.

09-09-2019, 09:55 AM	#3
jeanpierre Site Donor 2018 Join Date: Mar 2008 Location: Thibodaux Posts: 43,543 Blog Entries: 39	Re: 2020 Season / Next CBA Originally Posted by SmashMouth ... for now. I'd be curious to see the revenue growth chart. It can't keep going up and up forever, can it? Many have turned off the NFL with all the foolishness that evidently continues to happen. It's not just market saturation, Smash; it's developing multiple revenue streams within that market... Take for example a local bank paying to be the official bank of the team; then they get to make a nickel on every bank card issued with the logo... Once the demand is established for the card with the team logo, maybe .05% of the bank's cut on every transaction with the card... Eat at a local diner/truck stop (home cooking vs fast food), anyways, you should see the people buying Louisiana Lottery Tickets with the Saints Logo, what's that cut? It's creating multiple revenue marketing streams that has allowed that growth... Now is a player worth millions of dollars? Let me ask these questions for context: What is a family of four attending a game in the loge section with season tickets spending? More accurately, what is a large corporation spending for two business execs and their traveling secretaries spending? If a team is winning because of superior talented players, and the stadium is packed vs barely 20% and fans wearing bags with a 6-10 season, who's bringing in that extra income when teams are rocking it? Are fans coming to see Drew Brees? or, Are fans coming to see the Saints? or, Are fans coming for the game experience? or, Are fans coming to see the Saints' Drew Brees for a terrific game experience? It is crazy one person earns that much; but if he's putting in the work to be elite, and the results are directly attributable to his talent, work, and that yields x amount of dollars, how much should he have earned? SmashMouth and rezburna like this.
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09-09-2019, 02:54 PM	#4
TheOak 10000 POST CLUB Join Date: Dec 2009 Location: Cypress Tx. Posts: 19,047	Re: 2020 Season / Next CBA Originally Posted by jeanpierre It is crazy one person earns that much; but if he's putting in the work to be elite, and the results are directly attributable to his talent, work, and that yields x amount of dollars, how much should he have earned? I have never begrudged anyone what so ever for what they are able to make; CEO, Athlete, Research Chemist, Artist, Musician, Entertainer.... I do not believe in class warfare.... It's low character, I was merely pointing out how the mob is fickle lol. People get way too hung up on worth, whether its an item for sale or an employee, none of them are worth more than what someone is willing to pay.. What someone is willing to pay someone else is none of my business. I am agreeing with you

09-09-2019, 10:13 AM	#5
TheOak 10000 POST CLUB Join Date: Dec 2009 Location: Cypress Tx. Posts: 19,047	Re: 2020 Season / Next CBA Originally Posted by SmashMouth ... for now. I'd be curious to see the revenue growth chart. It can't keep going up and up forever, can it? Many have turned off the NFL with all the foolishness that evidently continues to happen. If you are asking a Marketing Director the answer is always yes... I have never met one that said 'nahhh'... They throw **** at the sky and hope nothing falls, if it falls that's okay falling has a specific marketable value as well. SmashMouth likes this.