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CHA_CHING 09-15-2019 07:38 PM

Re: Observations from Saints' loss at Rams
 
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Originally Posted by saintfan (Post 855616)
It doesn't matter how good we are. You can call it pretending if you want. The evidence is there. What we do on the field doesn't matter. Two steps forward and one step back thanks to the flag, which doesn't fly when the same (or worse) offense takes place on the other side. Its right there in front of our faces. Blame whomever you want. The refs controlled this game far more than the rams good play or our 'bad' play. This was a "W" for LA before they kicked it off.

With this kind of thinking, why even bother watching? After all, Roger Goodell is the Wizard of Oz, as you told me. As if he's truly smart enough to pull all this off....

CHA_CHING 09-15-2019 07:44 PM

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Originally Posted by Beastmode (Post 855628)
Pats win without Brady. Not an excuse. The defensive TD revoke was complete BS. It was a TD. Jared Cook sucks. dropped several easy grabs right in his hands. Don't get me started on QB play. He threw it in the ground several times when he could have made a play. One, all he had to do was run 4 yards. He threw it in the dirt immediately. Pissed me off because he just quit. He's a quitter.


I gave you a like cause I agree with most of this, except the Bridgewater part. I don't think he's a quitter. As much as he frustrates me, he came back from some horrifying injuries earlier in his career.

The Pats win without Brady for a number of reasons but the two main ones are that they usually have great depth on offense and don't have to overly rely on Brady (Last year Brady was an average QB. Sony Michel was their offensive MVP and they rested him in time for the playoffs). The other reason is that they're simply better coached than us. You don't see them having constant penalties on the offensive side of the ball. I know everyone just screams refs over this, but it's a problem after 2 games we can't stop drawing flags on false starts, holds and illegal formations. It's frustrating seeing the Rams get away with it, I know, but it's something we've got to fix.

K Major 09-15-2019 07:44 PM

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Originally Posted by RailBoss (Post 855639)
Penalties Saints 11-87 Rams 8-65

Statistics don't show key situation penalties.

Of lack thereof ... Cam Jordan non TD was a huge shift in momentum.

saintfan 09-15-2019 08:13 PM

Re: Observations from Saints' loss at Rams
 
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Originally Posted by CHA_CHING (Post 855640)
With this kind of thinking, why even bother watching? After all, Roger Goodell is the Wizard of Oz, as you told me. As if he's truly smart enough to pull all this off....

I watch because I love the Saints and I support the team. Are you going to tell me you don't think Roger instructed the refs to call this game one-sided? He doesn't have to be a rocket scientist to make that happen.

As I've said in another thread, this isn't a one-off, this is a very clear pattern of behavior that spans time. I'm not sure what you believe, not do I care, but if you can't see it then you're simply not looking. It's as obvious as the nose on your face what's going on. Two straight games with the rams where the officiating was very clearly biased.

I'm not afraid to call a spade a spade.

lee909 09-15-2019 08:33 PM

Re: Observations from Saints' loss at Rams
 
Okay, one that's not likely to be popular.

Have we given big money to a WR that without Brees ability to pass into tight spaces is not worth the contract yet again making no separation today. Teams are not scared of him over the top so without Brees being able to hit him where only he can snag it is he going to produce, because if he can't Kamara is going to be facing 8 man fronts.

Peat absolutely sucked.

The refs definitely swung this game, but it would have been close either way and with them screwing you it's no chance.

The Bridgewater money looks a waste, though he deserves next week to see if he's any better.

st thomas 09-15-2019 08:37 PM

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Originally Posted by SmashMouth (Post 855622)
Might be time to play the young WRs, Butler and Lil'Jordan.

Peat looking like we should have cut/traded him.



Cut that cuuunt

Beastmode 09-15-2019 09:04 PM

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Originally Posted by ChrisXVI (Post 855634)
Dude... calling Bridgewater a quitter considering his history is absurd.


Brees would never throw it in the dirt on the snap. He threw it in the dirt on the snap a couple of times. Go back and watch it. It blew me away because I have never seen a QB do that so quick. It is a defeatism attitude to do so when on one, he could have easily ran for a first down. No defending that approach from any vantage point. It's a quitter mentality.

SmashMouth 09-15-2019 09:34 PM

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SmashMouth 09-15-2019 09:34 PM

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blackangold 09-15-2019 09:36 PM

Re: Observations from Saints' loss at Rams
 
Payton just tossed the line under the bus... said he is comfortable with Teddy and he needs better line play cause they got whipped.

Being at the game.. I saw it completely different Teddy was holding onto the ball for too long and missing wide open WRs. By wide open I mean having Ginn 20yards away from anyone and cook in the back of the end zone with no one around him... Teddy isn’t a starter anymore, arguably never was, he is a game manager. Season is lost if Payton doesn’t start Hill, Brees is out for the season.


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