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The unthinkable happens ... Brees is injured.

Teddy is not worth his contract.

SP is stubborn with personnel decisions sometimes.

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Refs pull yet another fast one on us.

Defense got tired... and was robbed of a TD.


Forget about this game and get ready for next week. SP needs to earn his extension.

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We were robbed. This game was rigged. Pattern of behavior by the league. Not even up for debate. We should have stopped playing at half time and refused to sent our team back onto the field.

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Long time Saints fan (since 1970) and seeing Brees get his passing hand hurt is devastating. Plus the facts that the Refs did it YET AGAIN to the Saints in unacceptable. Jordan's fumble return for a TD would have been a huge difference. Im so tired of these refs. AND I swear to God, if I ever see Eli Apple do anything close to doing his job, I'll be stunned. He can't cover and he certainly can't tackle. I despise him.

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Apple was flagged a couple times today for doing nothing but his job. The game was rigged.

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Hate to say it, but if Brees broke his thumb or had any significant sprain, he’s probably out 6-8 weeks.

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The game may have been "rigged" but no one can defend Apple - go back & watch - missed tackle after missed tackle. He is terrible. You actually think he is good??

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By the way, one observation on Marcus Davenport...

It’s become a common thing to have him rush standing up behind the 1-technique. I’m getting a little annoyed that our huge investment at DE can’t put his hand in the dirt and beat a LT.

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Apple is a hot and cold, streaky player. Hell, Dak Prescott of all QBs was torching him last year when we moved Apple over Cooper in that game.

Of course, our fans aren't going to focus on the negative. We'll spend a whole year talking about a bad call as if that's our only problem.

The secondary was torched once the defensive line ran out of gas. Hell, they were getting torched before that.

LATTIMORE got burned by Cooks, not unlike how the Rams were picking us apart in the NFCCG.

This team has serious problems, and talking about how games are rigged and pretending Roger Goodell is some Lex Luthor super genius comic book villain, is just ignoring the evidence in our faces.

This was my greatest fear going into this year. We looked like an exposed team in the final month of the season last year including playoffs. So far, that has followed us. When Brees went down, it was put on full display just how one dimensional this offense is and relies entirely on our aged, 40 year old HoF QB. Hell, you saw signs of this last week with how thoroughly Houston shut us down for one half of that game. I

Cook is yet another dud for us at the Tight End position so far. We haven't had a decent TE now since Hoo-Man in 2015.

The offense is what it was last year - entirely reliant on Brees throwing to Michael Thomas and Alvin Kamara. No one is scared of our other receivers cause they don't posse a threat. Cook drops passes and gets shut down easily.

Get ready for a long season....

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True here. Davenport was a non-factor today.

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Is this Brees last year on contract?

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It doesn't matter how good we are. You can call it pretending if you want. The evidence is there. What we do on the field doesn't matter. Two steps forward and one step back thanks to the flag, which doesn't fly when the same (or worse) offense takes place on the other side. Its right there in front of our faces. Blame whomever you want. The refs controlled this game far more than the rams good play or our 'bad' play. This was a "W" for LA before they kicked it off.

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Might be time to play the young WRs, Butler and Lil'Jordan.

Peat looking like we should have cut/traded him.

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The internet sleuths are hard at work regarding Brees’s injury. The prevailing thought is that it’s the thumb’s UCL and any kind of tear would probably mean a 3 month recovery and IR.

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-Refs are hot garbage in the NFL. Decided games in the Vikings. Chargers, and Bears with an assist in the Saints game.
-Bridgewater is not the answer.
-If somebody wants Peat, they can have him. SOFT! Me being nice.
-Kirkwood is not worthy.
-Kamara mailed it in today. Fist time.
-Cooks is cashing checks.

-Defensive effort was there.
-Lutz is money.
-Go Eagles!

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Not really sure why some try to defend his play over the last 3 years. I hope the Saints move on from him next season.

He's too big of a man to play so soft.

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Pats win without Brady. Not an excuse. The defensive TD revoke was complete BS. It was a TD. Jared Cook sucks. dropped several easy grabs right in his hands. Don't get me started on QB play. He threw it in the ground several times when he could have made a play. One, all he had to do was run 4 yards. He threw it in the dirt immediately. Pissed me off because he just quit. He's a quitter.

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Dude... calling Bridgewater a quitter considering his history is absurd.

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Penalties Saints 11-87 Rams 8-65

Statistics don't show key situation penalties.

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With this kind of thinking, why even bother watching? After all, Roger Goodell is the Wizard of Oz, as you told me. As if he's truly smart enough to pull all this off....

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I gave you a like cause I agree with most of this, except the Bridgewater part. I don't think he's a quitter. As much as he frustrates me, he came back from some horrifying injuries earlier in his career.

The Pats win without Brady for a number of reasons but the two main ones are that they usually have great depth on offense and don't have to overly rely on Brady (Last year Brady was an average QB. Sony Michel was their offensive MVP and they rested him in time for the playoffs). The other reason is that they're simply better coached than us. You don't see them having constant penalties on the offensive side of the ball. I know everyone just screams refs over this, but it's a problem after 2 games we can't stop drawing flags on false starts, holds and illegal formations. It's frustrating seeing the Rams get away with it, I know, but it's something we've got to fix.

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Of lack thereof ... Cam Jordan non TD was a huge shift in momentum.

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I watch because I love the Saints and I support the team. Are you going to tell me you don't think Roger instructed the refs to call this game one-sided? He doesn't have to be a rocket scientist to make that happen.

As I've said in another thread, this isn't a one-off, this is a very clear pattern of behavior that spans time. I'm not sure what you believe, not do I care, but if you can't see it then you're simply not looking. It's as obvious as the nose on your face what's going on. Two straight games with the rams where the officiating was very clearly biased.

I'm not afraid to call a spade a spade.

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Okay, one that's not likely to be popular.

Have we given big money to a WR that without Brees ability to pass into tight spaces is not worth the contract yet again making no separation today. Teams are not scared of him over the top so without Brees being able to hit him where only he can snag it is he going to produce, because if he can't Kamara is going to be facing 8 man fronts.

Peat absolutely sucked.

The refs definitely swung this game, but it would have been close either way and with them screwing you it's no chance.

The Bridgewater money looks a waste, though he deserves next week to see if he's any better.

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Cut that cuuunt

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Brees would never throw it in the dirt on the snap. He threw it in the dirt on the snap a couple of times. Go back and watch it. It blew me away because I have never seen a QB do that so quick. It is a defeatism attitude to do so when on one, he could have easily ran for a first down. No defending that approach from any vantage point. It's a quitter mentality.

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Payton just tossed the line under the bus... said he is comfortable with Teddy and he needs better line play cause they got whipped.

Being at the game.. I saw it completely different Teddy was holding onto the ball for too long and missing wide open WRs. By wide open I mean having Ginn 20yards away from anyone and cook in the back of the end zone with no one around him... Teddy isn’t a starter anymore, arguably never was, he is a game manager. Season is lost if Payton doesn’t start Hill, Brees is out for the season.

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Highest paid backup in the league. Loomis magic!

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Somehow, ya'll gonna have to get used to the Saints facing two opponents on the field, injuries and poor play on both sides of the ball.

D played well today.

I'll still be here.

:bng:

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Marcus Davenport is being used too free up the other pass rushers, he was doubled teamed heavy, but it looked like he had constant pressure for what he's asked to do. His role is different from last year.

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Run offense is still bad, Andrus Peat last year as a Saint unless something changes, but the crazy thing is It's only week 2. The defense may have regressed, the interior DLine is soooooo bad. We aren't effective in the run anymore. Y'all talking bout bad players so far this year ANZALONE looks baaaad

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1. I was expecting much more from Cooks than this. He had a couple of drops and that "INT" by Brees was all on him.

2. No push from the O-line in the running game. At all. This is probably my main concern if Brees is out for an extended time. A backup absolutely needs a running game to help him out.

3. Pretty good pressure on Goff. 3 more sacks and lot of hits on him.

4. Too many big holes in the middle of the defence. We seem to lack the ability to stay with the WRs long enough.

5. Smith showing flashes again at WR before him getting hurt.

6. Surprised we saw Ginn go completely without catches when we have a depleted group of WRs.

7. Run D okay but not great. Giving up 115 yards is pretty alright.

8. Didn't look like a great game for Lattimore. He seemed like a step to slow most of the game.

9. Hendrickson active again and with the sack/strip.

10. Aaron Donald is the best player in football right now.

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Agree! Bridgewater is not a quitter. He seemed completely unprepared though and really isn't all that talented. I think his heart is in the right place, he just doesn't have the skills.

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Clapp played no worse than former 1st rounder Andrus Peat.

Collectively, the Saints O line played poorly.

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Havent posted here in a long time. I do keep up with the NFL a little. More of a casual fan now. Whoch is strange since i loved the NFL for a very long time. Loved it. It is becoming sort of like baseball and basketball for me. I keep up on the standings but not much else. Right now im a little more invested than that, but not a ton. I did watch the game yesterday.

The oline got their ass absolutely kicked. I have defended Peat for a long time, but dude really is the soft link. Not to say the rest of the line played well, because we got throttled upfront.

The refs....exactly why I am such a casual fan has continued to, absurdly, administer their BS. The amount of holding calls were ridiculous. Cam gets held like that nearly every frigan down and we cannot buy a call.

Teddy cannot make decisions. He waits too long. Some of it was WR not open, sometimes far too much pressure, but other times he was just not able to decide. For instance a third down where he could have run and just sat there trying to decide before throwing a bad pass.

I would give it another week with teddy getting all the snaps and see what he produces. If nothing then i would gove TH a shot. He has an xfactor and sometimes people surprise.

That said, TH did a lot of what he did ahainst aubpar talent. No way to know if he can produce against firat string players...but if TB cannot get it done cant hurt to try.

Pur defense got gassed yeaterday. We have huge holes in the secondary, but it seems every year our defense starts loke thos and then improves. So wait and see.

Teddy wasnt the complete failure yesterday, the oline was. Thats why teddy was in in the first place, isnt it?

16 games in a season. But yesterday we got our but kicks and the refs didnt help.

Take the refs out of it, add drew, and i still think we lose. They had more emotion.

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Peat was just flat out terrible. I have defended him too but I but he came in soft and has regressed back to being soft again.