Week 4 -Cowboys

CHA_CHING · 09-23-2019, 10:40 PM

Originally Posted by Cruize

-The Cowboys are for real.
-Dak is really good.
-Zeke is a beast.
-Their OL is one of the best.
-The WR's are legit 3 deep with speed and skills.
-Whitten is a first down difference maker.
-The new playcaller is the/a future Head Coach.
-Their DL brings the pressure.
-Their LB crew is the best in the NFL.
-Their run D is good.
-Their secondary is average.

The Saints will have to find a way to run the ball and make some big plays on offense, defense and special teams to win this game. Can they? Sure. Will they? I certainly hope so. Is it more or less likely? Less.

They needed 3 quarters to figure out how to beat a tanking Miami team that is trying to lose every game.

Vrillon82 · 09-24-2019, 10:08 PM

Im not scared of Dak or Elliot, wasnt last year even though they beat us. It was their defense that got the best of us.

Dak is no Watson or Wilson. our run defense is pretty good so Elliot wont beat us. The real question is what can Bridgewater do vs Dallas D.

Vrillon82 · 09-24-2019, 10:12 PM

Originally Posted by SaintsBro

Of course, every game is different, but the last time we played the Cowboys and they held us to 10 points (WHICH EVERY TALKING HEAD AND COWBOYS FAN SEEMS TO BE TALKING ABOUT) was at the end of a long, brutal run of games, it was a Thursday night game on the road on a short week after playing the Falcons, and the Saints were already very banged up with injuries. We knew that game was going to be a tough slog going into it (short week of rest) and going into that Cowboys game last year, five of the Saints' previous six games were against either division rivals or playoff caliber teams. It was a long run, and the Saints were inevitably just running on fumes, no wonder they were flat and played a dull, uninspired game.

This is just a long-winded way of saying, don't read too much into the Cowboys' defensive performance against the Saints last year, or the Saints' offense with Drew sputtering against the Cowboys last year (if that's how you want to look at it).

Obviously, the Teddy factor will be a huge unknown. But don't use the results of last year's game as a reason to be scared! DIfferent game, different year.

I went through last years Cowboys schedule, their was only 2 teams they beat with winning records, 3 counting playoffs. They were Saints, Eagles, and Seahawks. Seahawks got the best of them in the regular season though.

st thomas · 09-24-2019, 10:33 PM

Originally Posted by Vrillon82

I went through last years Cowboys schedule, their was only 2 teams they beat with winning records, 3 counting playoffs. They were Saints, Eagles, and Seahawks. Seahawks got the best of them in the regular season though.

Good points but what may kill us is there speed. Cooper Cobb and he’s not fast but a sure thing is Witton is back and producing.we can t let them run by us like last year. Pressure will be better in our house May be the difference.

CHA_CHING · 09-25-2019, 05:54 AM

Originally Posted by Vrillon82

Im not scared of Dak or Elliot, wasnt last year even though they beat us. It was their defense that got the best of us.

Dak is no Watson or Wilson. our run defense is pretty good so Elliot wont beat us. The real question is what can Bridgewater do vs Dallas D.

Dak had one of his best games last year against us. He carved us up, mainly with Apple struggling all day over Amari Cooper.

This year Dak has improved greatly and is playing much better. I wish he didn't play for Dallas, cause I liked him at Miss State and think he could become a better QB.

Call me crazy, but I think we win this game if the defense plays well. They can fix their mistakes from last year's match and Dallas is a team that is buying into their own hype. Look at how they struggled with an awful Miami team.

They play us and Green Bay next. One of us is going to end up beating them.

Crusader · 09-25-2019, 06:25 AM

Originally Posted by CHA_CHING

Dak had one of his best games last year against us. He carved us up, mainly with Apple struggling all day over Amari Cooper.

This year Dak has improved greatly and is playing much better. I wish he didn't play for Dallas, cause I liked him at Miss State and think he could become a better QB.

Call me crazy, but I think we win this game if the defense plays well. They can fix their mistakes from last year's match and Dallas is a team that is buying into their own hype. Look at how they struggled with an awful Miami team.

They play us and Green Bay next. One of us is going to end up beating them.

As Dak has improved, so has our passrush. Dak is nowhere near as slippery as Wilson, I would not be surprised to see him get sacked 3-4 times and hit some more.

SaintGup · 09-25-2019, 08:41 AM

I find that it looks like our secondary are each playing there own game and not as a communicating unit. Plus, tackling has been atrocious from them. They need to work as a unit and maybe then, our defensive front will get some help.

Budsdrinker · 09-25-2019, 09:15 AM

We lost last year on a dropped TD pass to Smith. He catches that pass we win. We will win Sunday by 10.

09-23-2019, 10:40 PM	#21
CHA_CHING 1000 Posts + Join Date: Jan 2019 Location: Mobile, AL Posts: 1,159	Re: Week 4 -Cowboys Originally Posted by Cruize -The Cowboys are for real. -Dak is really good. -Zeke is a beast. -Their OL is one of the best. -The WR's are legit 3 deep with speed and skills. -Whitten is a first down difference maker. -The new playcaller is the/a future Head Coach. -Their DL brings the pressure. -Their LB crew is the best in the NFL. -Their run D is good. -Their secondary is average. The Saints will have to find a way to run the ball and make some big plays on offense, defense and special teams to win this game. Can they? Sure. Will they? I certainly hope so. Is it more or less likely? Less. They needed 3 quarters to figure out how to beat a tanking Miami team that is trying to lose every game.

09-24-2019, 10:08 PM	#22
Vrillon82 1000 Posts + Join Date: Aug 2012 Posts: 1,127	Re: Week 4 -Cowboys Im not scared of Dak or Elliot, wasnt last year even though they beat us. It was their defense that got the best of us. Dak is no Watson or Wilson. our run defense is pretty good so Elliot wont beat us. The real question is what can Bridgewater do vs Dallas D.
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09-24-2019, 10:12 PM	#23
Vrillon82 1000 Posts + Join Date: Aug 2012 Posts: 1,127	Re: Week 4 -Cowboys Originally Posted by SaintsBro Of course, every game is different, but the last time we played the Cowboys and they held us to 10 points (WHICH EVERY TALKING HEAD AND COWBOYS FAN SEEMS TO BE TALKING ABOUT) was at the end of a long, brutal run of games, it was a Thursday night game on the road on a short week after playing the Falcons, and the Saints were already very banged up with injuries. We knew that game was going to be a tough slog going into it (short week of rest) and going into that Cowboys game last year, five of the Saints' previous six games were against either division rivals or playoff caliber teams. It was a long run, and the Saints were inevitably just running on fumes, no wonder they were flat and played a dull, uninspired game. This is just a long-winded way of saying, don't read too much into the Cowboys' defensive performance against the Saints last year, or the Saints' offense with Drew sputtering against the Cowboys last year (if that's how you want to look at it). Obviously, the Teddy factor will be a huge unknown. But don't use the results of last year's game as a reason to be scared! DIfferent game, different year. I went through last years Cowboys schedule, their was only 2 teams they beat with winning records, 3 counting playoffs. They were Saints, Eagles, and Seahawks. Seahawks got the best of them in the regular season though. st thomas likes this.
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09-24-2019, 10:33 PM	#24
st thomas Site Donor 2018 Join Date: Dec 2009 Location: lafayette Posts: 7,753	Re: Week 4 -Cowboys Originally Posted by Vrillon82 I went through last years Cowboys schedule, their was only 2 teams they beat with winning records, 3 counting playoffs. They were Saints, Eagles, and Seahawks. Seahawks got the best of them in the regular season though. Good points but what may kill us is there speed. Cooper Cobb and he’s not fast but a sure thing is Witton is back and producing.we can t let them run by us like last year. Pressure will be better in our house May be the difference.

09-25-2019, 05:54 AM	#25
CHA_CHING 1000 Posts + Join Date: Jan 2019 Location: Mobile, AL Posts: 1,159	Re: Week 4 -Cowboys Originally Posted by Vrillon82 Im not scared of Dak or Elliot, wasnt last year even though they beat us. It was their defense that got the best of us. Dak is no Watson or Wilson. our run defense is pretty good so Elliot wont beat us. The real question is what can Bridgewater do vs Dallas D. Dak had one of his best games last year against us. He carved us up, mainly with Apple struggling all day over Amari Cooper. This year Dak has improved greatly and is playing much better. I wish he didn't play for Dallas, cause I liked him at Miss State and think he could become a better QB. Call me crazy, but I think we win this game if the defense plays well. They can fix their mistakes from last year's match and Dallas is a team that is buying into their own hype. Look at how they struggled with an awful Miami team. They play us and Green Bay next. One of us is going to end up beating them.

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09-25-2019, 06:25 AM	#26
Crusader Resident Swede Join Date: Sep 2005 Location: Märsta, Sweden Posts: 7,983	Re: Week 4 -Cowboys Originally Posted by CHA_CHING Dak had one of his best games last year against us. He carved us up, mainly with Apple struggling all day over Amari Cooper. This year Dak has improved greatly and is playing much better. I wish he didn't play for Dallas, cause I liked him at Miss State and think he could become a better QB. Call me crazy, but I think we win this game if the defense plays well. They can fix their mistakes from last year's match and Dallas is a team that is buying into their own hype. Look at how they struggled with an awful Miami team. They play us and Green Bay next. One of us is going to end up beating them. As Dak has improved, so has our passrush. Dak is nowhere near as slippery as Wilson, I would not be surprised to see him get sacked 3-4 times and hit some more.

09-25-2019, 08:41 AM	#27
SaintGup 500th Post Join Date: Sep 2009 Location: London, England Posts: 580	Re: Week 4 -Cowboys I find that it looks like our secondary are each playing there own game and not as a communicating unit. Plus, tackling has been atrocious from them. They need to work as a unit and maybe then, our defensive front will get some help.

09-25-2019, 09:15 AM	#28
Budsdrinker A Cajun Transforming TX Join Date: Jul 2007 Location: The Woodlands, Texas Posts: 2,787	Re: Week 4 -Cowboys We lost last year on a dropped TD pass to Smith. He catches that pass we win. We will win Sunday by 10.