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Cruize 09-24-2019 07:43 AM

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C'mon man!

rezburna 09-24-2019 08:08 AM

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jeanpierre 09-24-2019 09:04 AM

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Originally Posted by Beastmode (Post 857669)
2015 he made the Prow Bowl.

And Drew Brees has no League MVPs...

jeanpierre 09-24-2019 09:05 AM

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Originally Posted by rezburna (Post 857664)
Teddy Bridgewater -

19 for 27
177 yards
6.6 yards per attempt
2 TD’s
0 INT’s
112.7 QBR

Drew Brees -

27 for 35
265 yards
7.6 yards per attempt
1 TD
0 INT’s
107.4 rating

Both games against the Seahawks. Both resulted in the W. We gotta back off in the kid.

Rez, seriously, you think Teddy faced the same level of defensive talent that Drew faced?

rezburna 09-24-2019 09:20 AM

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Originally Posted by jeanpierre (Post 857689)
Rez, seriously, you think Teddy faced the same level of defensive talent that Drew faced?

Of course not, but I think we should give the kid a break. We got a W. Let’s see what he can do against the Boys.

FinSaint 09-24-2019 10:48 AM

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Originally Posted by jeanpierre (Post 857586)
Some Perspective:

Teddy Bridgewater @ Seattle: PA 27, PC 19, 177 PaYd, 2 PaTd

Longest Pass Play: -1PaYd Att Screen Pass to Alvin Kamara who navigated 29 yards behind Ramczyk to the End Zone...

That's 9.32 yards per completion, including YAC; until Bridgewater had connected on that screen, he'd attempted only one throw just at 10yds...

Dallas has a much better D, and Pete Carroll has already showed the Cowboys the blueprint to Bridgewater; sit in shallow cover 3, make Teddy indecisive, hold the ball, put the strain on the offensive line...

You were also saying that you didn't think he had the mobility after the injury, but he sure seemed to move well and have good pocket presence eluding tacklers.

May I remind you that he had those throws to Thomas and Carr, which were negated by penalties and he also had that 15-yard run taken back - just to say that looking at numbers alone doesn't give the whole picture.

I'm not saying he'll ever be a HOF QB, but I'd like for people to give him an honest chance without constantly whipping out the "game-manager" card or yelling "getsom Taysom" like Hill is the second coming of Steve Young.

lynwood 09-24-2019 12:49 PM

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If we manage to get into the playoffs we want to go in with Brees behind the wheel. Brees is the starter #1 QB on this team until he plays himself out or retires.

Beastmode 09-24-2019 12:59 PM

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Teddy is the starter #1 QB. Brees was the starter #1 QB. This normally happens when the backup becomes the starter.

nola_swammi 09-24-2019 01:45 PM

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why compare TB to DB? No qb controversy,DB is hurt and I am sure even if TB lights it up better than DB did in his prime,, DB will be back under center when healthy or playoffs. TB is just doing what he is paid to do and I LIKE IT

Rugby Saint II 09-24-2019 02:54 PM

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I see your point Beast. Ride the hot hand or go with the proven vet coming off an injury? I'm going to have to pick Drew because he always has the hot hand.

The Dude 09-24-2019 08:25 PM

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TB may be fine when we have the lead or only down by a field goal but if you are down two scores with 5 minutes left be honest do you want TB or Brees?

Beastmode 09-24-2019 09:04 PM

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Who knows. Underestimating a pro bowler though is not a good idea. He has the skills to push through it. I'm not doing it. He is a real deal QB. All he needs is reps with the crew. He will get better I know that much.

lynwood 09-25-2019 11:31 AM

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Originally Posted by Beastmode (Post 857718)
Teddy is the starter #1 QB. Brees was the starter #1 QB. This normally happens when the backup becomes the starter.

You know what I mean but by all means be an ass.

The Dude 09-25-2019 11:35 AM

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What do you think we could get if we traded Brees? Might be worth looking into if TB keeps it up.

AsylumGuido 09-25-2019 02:57 PM

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Originally Posted by The Dude (Post 857900)
What do you think we could get if we traded Brees? Might be worth looking into if TB keeps it up.

Brees has a "no trade" clause even if someone was stupid enough to attempt it. He has repeatedly stated that he will play the remainder of his career with the Saints.

voodooido 09-26-2019 09:49 AM

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Originally Posted by Beastmode (Post 857669)
2015 he made the Prow Bowl.

2015 stats: 3231 yards, 14 tds and 9 ints. Pro bowl numbers?????? I would call this avg at best. Would you be ok with these stats??????


https://www.pro-football-reference.c...B/BridTe00.htm

FinSaint 09-26-2019 10:10 AM

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Originally Posted by voodooido (Post 858017)
2015 stats: 3231 yards, 14 tds and 9 ints. Pro bowl numbers?????? I would call this avg at best. Would you be ok with these stats??????





https://www.pro-football-reference.c...B/BridTe00.htm

His O-line was terrible at pass blocking that year though, so those numbers aren't bad considering that.

And AD was on fire coming back from the injury, so he got the ball quite frequently.

voodooido 09-26-2019 10:41 AM

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Originally Posted by FinSaint (Post 858018)
His O-line was terrible at pass blocking that year though, so those numbers aren't bad considering that.

And AD was on fire coming back from the injury, so he got the ball quite frequently.

That is his stats over 16 games.............14 Td.s over 16 games.......AK had more than that last year.

FinSaint 09-26-2019 10:55 AM

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Originally Posted by voodooido (Post 858020)
That is his stats over 16 games.............14 Td.s over 16 games.......AK had more than that last year.

Sure, but their offense was a run 1st offense.

Beastmode 09-26-2019 11:03 AM

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3 rushing TD's so 17 total to Kamara's 18. The same number of TD's Brees had his 2nd year; 17.

But meh...we will see. Some are assuming TB ceiling is not very high. I disagree and believe he is being extremely under valued mainly because he is working with the starters and has the best OL he has ever had. He's going to improve.

If we had another half decent WR or one eventually shows up, no telling what his ceiling could be. We have a serious problem at WR. Probably worse than last year.

voodooido 09-26-2019 11:53 AM

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Originally Posted by Beastmode (Post 858022)
3 rushing TD's so 17 total to Kamara's 18. The same number of TD's Brees had his 2nd year; 17.

But meh...we will see. Some are assuming TB ceiling is not very high. I disagree and believe he is being extremely under valued mainly because he is working with the starters and has the best OL he has ever had. He's going to improve.

If we had another half decent WR or one eventually shows up, no telling what his ceiling could be. We have a serious problem at WR. Probably worse than last year.

And Drew finished 8-8. We all agree 8-8 is not what we need right? Look, I would love for him to prove me wrong but I don't think he has the ability.

iceshack149 09-26-2019 12:44 PM

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Originally Posted by The Dude (Post 857900)
What do you think we could get if we traded Brees? Might be worth looking into if TB keeps it up.

Ok. Your comment about God injuring Brees to humble him was funny. This though, sacrilege.

Mods, I implore you, start waiving the Banishment Wand. Put some fear into these willy-nilly posters.

jeanpierre 09-26-2019 01:38 PM

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Originally Posted by iceshack149 (Post 858030)
Ok. Your comment about God injuring Brees to humble him was funny. This though, sacrilege.

Mods, I implore you, start waiving the Banishment Wand. Put some fear into these willy-nilly posters.

https://www.reactiongifs.us/wp-conte...12/popcorn.gif

Thirty3 09-26-2019 02:41 PM

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If Teddy keeps up 177 yds per game??? Dude

SaintFanInATLHELL 09-26-2019 03:18 PM

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Originally Posted by Thirty3 (Post 858050)
If Teddy keeps up 177 yds per game??? Dude

I hope that everyone is aware that each NFL game is essentially a season upon itself. Just because Teddy dinked and dunked for 177 yards out in the rain on an away game against a really tough defense doesn't mean that projects to any game in the future.

I've been rather quiet on this subject. But I have to admit I'm a bit frustrated with all the disappointment with TB. As the backup QB he has 3 jobs:

1. Protect the football.
2. Help the team win games. More importantly don't cause the team to lose games.
3. Keep the team in the season until Brees comes back.

It's not throwing for 4000 yards. Or throwing the ball 50 yards down the field. It's not coming on the field as an all-Pro QB as a backup. And folks seem to be disappointed because they are not getting that with TB. I just don't understand why folks cannot comprehend that if a QB had that skillset, they wouldn't be a backup.

Teddy is a godsend. A former starting QB who is a backup at 26 because of circumstances, not lack of production. There are 32 starting QBs currently in the NFL. Teddy is likely better than 20 of them. And he's our backup:

https://media.tenor.com/images/b5377...4799/tenor.gif

SFIAH

AsylumGuido 09-26-2019 03:23 PM

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Originally Posted by SaintFanInATLHELL (Post 858053)
I hope that everyone is aware that each NFL game is essentially a season upon itself. Just because Teddy dinked and dunked for 177 yards out in the rain on an away game against a really tough defense doesn't mean that projects to any game in the future.

I've been rather quiet on this subject. But I have to admit I'm a bit frustrated with all the disappointment with TB. As the backup QB he has 3 jobs:

1. Protect the football.
2. Help the team win games. More importantly don't cause the team to lose games.
3. Keep the team in the season until Brees comes back.

It's not throwing for 4000 yards. Or throwing the ball 50 yards down the field. It's not coming on the field as an all-Pro QB as a backup. And folks seem to be disappointed because they are not getting that with TB. I just don't understand why folks cannot comprehend that if a QB had that skillset, they wouldn't be a backup.

Teddy is a godsend. A former starting QB who is a backup at 26 because of circumstances, not lack of production. There are 32 starting QBs currently in the NFL. Teddy is likely better than 20 of them. And he's our backup:

https://media.tenor.com/images/b5377...4799/tenor.gif

SFIAH

That is FAR too logical. You should know it doesn't work around here.

K Major 09-26-2019 04:28 PM

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Originally Posted by Thirty3 (Post 858050)
If Teddy keeps up 177 yds per game??? Dude

We won on Sunday with those 177 yards.

Isn't that the ultimate goal here?

AsylumGuido 09-26-2019 04:39 PM

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Originally Posted by K Major (Post 858061)
We won on Sunday with those 177 yards.

Isn't that the ultimate goal here?

You would think.

homerj07 09-26-2019 07:34 PM

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Let's see what happens. Im definitely willing to give him a chance. I'm not going to criticize or gush w/o more to go on... :bng:

The Dude 09-26-2019 08:55 PM

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Originally Posted by SaintFanInATLHELL (Post 858053)
I hope that everyone is aware that each NFL game is essentially a season upon itself. Just because Teddy dinked and dunked for 177 yards out in the rain on an away game against a really tough defense doesn't mean that projects to any game in the future.

I've been rather quiet on this subject. But I have to admit I'm a bit frustrated with all the disappointment with TB. As the backup QB he has 3 jobs:

1. Protect the football.
2. Help the team win games. More importantly don't cause the team to lose games.
3. Keep the team in the season until Brees comes back.

It's not throwing for 4000 yards. Or throwing the ball 50 yards down the field. It's not coming on the field as an all-Pro QB as a backup. And folks seem to be disappointed because they are not getting that with TB. I just don't understand why folks cannot comprehend that if a QB had that skillset, they wouldn't be a backup.

Teddy is a godsend. A former starting QB who is a backup at 26 because of circumstances, not lack of production. There are 32 starting QBs currently in the NFL. Teddy is likely better than 20 of them. And he's our backup:

https://media.tenor.com/images/b5377...4799/tenor.gif

SFIAH

I think people are looking at him more as if he is Brees successor rather than just a backup QB. Some people act like it’s their money when it comes to how much a team pays a player.
If people are expecting to see Brees successor out there and are scrutinizing him as such they may very well be let down. If they are looking at him like a backup QB and take his salary out of the equation then they may well be pleasantly surprised. I think he is somewhere in between.
I see him as a good, safe QB for a team that has an elite defense but not a guy who is going to win a shootout.

Beastmode 09-26-2019 11:12 PM

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Originally Posted by voodooido (Post 858026)
And Drew finished 8-8. We all agree 8-8 is not what we need right? Look, I would love for him to prove me wrong but I don't think he has the ability.


Brees finished 7-9 in 2016 so record is not everything. Brees also does not have the ability anymore. He is broken. Teddy is not. Teddy is the better QB right now like it or not.

K Major 09-27-2019 01:05 PM

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Originally Posted by Thirty3 (Post 858050)
If Teddy keeps up 177 yds per game??? Dude

Had to bring this back to life to drive my point home.

Not sure if you watched any of the Packers/Philly game last night but final QB stats you may find interesting ....

Aaron Rodgers 34-53 422 passing yards 2 tds/1 int (costly)
Carson Wentz 16-27 160 passing yards 3 TDs

Guess who won?

You don't need to throw up crazy passing stats on a given night to win. Spread the ball around, have a good completion percentage, no turnovers, and play 4 quarters.

:bng:

dam1953 09-27-2019 01:28 PM

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Originally Posted by K Major (Post 858165)
Had to bring this back to life to drive my point home.

Not sure if you watched any of the Packers/Philly game last night but final QB stats you may find interesting ....

Aaron Rodgers 34-53 422 passing yards 2 tds/1 int (costly)
Carson Wentz 16-27 160 passing yards 3 TDs

Guess who won?

You don't need to throw up crazy passing stats on a given night to win. Spread the ball around, have a good completion percentage, no turnovers, and play 4 quarters.

:bng:

A game manager who spins W's until Drew is back in the saddle works just fine for me.

TheOak 09-27-2019 02:36 PM

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I am going to throw a curveball into this conversation.. It is not my opinion, its my speculation..

This is what I can not get my head wrapped around...
- A Pro-Bowl starting QB, in the prime of his career, takes a lower offer to ride the bench...
- A Pro-Bowl starting QB that habitually checks down...

This is TB's dream shot to take someones job.

We are fans, of course we think he stayed because he preferred the Saints (clearly the best team), no way in hell he knew Drew would get hurt or that he would get an opportunity to start either this or next year.

It isnt about record, its about confidence... Drew came out his first year as a Saint after a shoulder recovery that should of ended his career and slug the ball for 4,418 yards.
Teddy took a safe out, a check down so to speak. He has confidence issues and while I do not know if its ability or injury related he is struggling with his confidence.

TheOak 09-27-2019 02:45 PM

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Originally Posted by K Major (Post 858165)
Had to bring this back to life to drive my point home.

Not sure if you watched any of the Packers/Philly game last night but final QB stats you may find interesting ....

Aaron Rodgers 34-53 422 passing yards 2 tds/1 int (costly)
Carson Wentz 16-27 160 passing yards 3 TDs

Guess who won?

You don't need to throw up crazy passing stats on a given night to win. Spread the ball around, have a good completion percentage, no turnovers, and play 4 quarters.

:bng:

Brother I get it, you are a Bridgewater fan, that's awesome. Teddy didn't win that game, if not for the defense and special teams touch downs the song would be different, you know that. He doesn't sling and we are built for slinging the ball.

AsylumGuido 09-27-2019 02:50 PM

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Originally Posted by TheOak (Post 858174)
Brother I get it, you are a Bridgewater fan, that's awesome. Teddy didn't win that game, if not for the defense and special teams touch downs the song would be different, you know that. He doesn't sling and we are built for slinging the ball.

I think he's saying that Teddy doesn't stink. He did what he needed to do to help win the game. Fortunately he got a little help from the defense and special teams, but I have to believe he can step it up if needed. We need to win the turnover battle this Sunday and Teddy has been very good at protecting the ball.

K Major 09-27-2019 03:28 PM

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Originally Posted by TheOak (Post 858174)
Brother I get it, you are a Bridgewater fan, that's awesome. Teddy didn't win that game, if not for the defense and special teams touch downs the song would be different, you know that. He doesn't sling and we are built for slinging the ball.

Wrong. I'm a Saints fan. Team first.

Never did I say Teddy was the sole reason that we won the game either. We won playing sound football in all 3 phases of the game and our QB didn't hurt us throwing costly (see ARod) INTs. Masterful play calling by Sean and Pete Carmichael. Brees is out for at least another month and I'll take the wins anyway we can get em.

See you in the winning locker room on Sunday night.

dizzle88 09-27-2019 04:48 PM

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Honestly, Teddy is lucky Kamara was such a beast last sunday.

If Kamara wasnt as good as he is, Teddy would have thrown for like 80 yards and we would have been blown out.

K Major 09-27-2019 05:23 PM

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Originally Posted by dizzle88 (Post 858183)
Honestly, Teddy is lucky Kamara was such a beast last sunday.

If Kamara wasnt as good as he is, Teddy would have thrown for like 80 ards and we would have been blown out.

Gotta love the positive vibes you bring to the table Dizz :rolleyes:.

AsylumGuido 09-27-2019 05:43 PM

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Originally Posted by K Major (Post 858189)
Gotta love the positive vibes you bring to the table Dizz :rolleyes:.

Just rocking his usual vibe once the season gets going, Major.

As for the rest of us ...

18-1 Baby!

:bng:


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