Drew Brees hopes to “beat” six-week prognosis for return

AsylumGuido · 09-26-2019, 04:16 PM

Originally Posted by CHA_CHING

I don't think they should rush Brees back out there.

At his age and this specific injury, I'm worried if he'll even recover.

Kurt Warner had this same injury in his final year with the Rams and it was the main culprit of what led to him becoming a journeyman for a brief bit. It took a long time for Warner to throw the ball with authority again. Brees is much older than he was at the time.

Not sure where you got this information. Warner suffered a broken pinkie in 2002 and revealed after being benched in 2003 (final season with the Rams) that he had previously broken his hand and it didn't heal properly. Not relevant to the Brees injury at all.

As for the Brees procedure, it is a relatively new procedure that allows for much quicker recovery as an internal brace is installed which allows the hand to be used while healing. And Brees is only 40 years old, which is considered young when it comes to healing and recovery ... especially when you take care of your body as well as Brees.

Saint in Aus · 09-26-2019, 07:27 PM

We should just deflate game balls to assist him returning sooner :P

vpheughan · 09-27-2019, 11:43 AM

As for the Brees procedure, it is a relatively new procedure

Performed by Dr. Fronk N. Steen, credit Dr. Eye Gore with the assist!!

WhoDat!656 · 09-27-2019, 01:35 PM

Interesting info on the surgery that was performed on Drew Brees

Abstract

One of the most commonly injured structures of the thumb metacarpophalangeal (MCP) joint is the ulnar collateral ligament (UCL). An acute injury of this ligament is often amenable to primary repair. Despite the favorable outcomes of primary repair, the thumb is often restricted during initial healing of the ligament with immobilization and delayed rehabilitation. We present a novel technique to augment the repair of the UCL with suture tape to provide immediate biomechanical support and strength during the critical time of ligament healing. We describe the surgical technique of suture tape augmentation for thumb UCL repair.

Here's another excerpt from the abstract:

We present a representative case of a professional basketball player treated with this novel procedure. After the surgical repair, the patient was placed in a plaster splint for 3 days to immobilize the thumb and wrist. At 3 days postsurgery, the splint was removed and therapy initiated. Practice drills were initiated at 1 week postsurgery with the use of a removable hand-based thumb spica custom splint. During the entire postoperative period, the left thumb MCP joint had excellent stability to radial stress at full extension and 30 degrees of flexion. In addition, at 3 weeks postsurgery, the patient was able to oppose the thumb tip to the palmar-digital crease of the small finger and MCP joint motion was 0 to 50 degrees. The patient began strengthening exercises at this time, along with the ability to participate in all position-specific drills. At 5 weeks postsurgery, the patient was cleared to return to full play, without use of a splint.

https://www.ncbi.nlm.nih.gov/pubmed/28902098

AsylumGuido · 09-27-2019, 01:56 PM

Originally Posted by WhoDat!656

Interesting info on the surgery that was performed on Drew Brees

Abstract

One of the most commonly injured structures of the thumb metacarpophalangeal (MCP) joint is the ulnar collateral ligament (UCL). An acute injury of this ligament is often amenable to primary repair. Despite the favorable outcomes of primary repair, the thumb is often restricted during initial healing of the ligament with immobilization and delayed rehabilitation. We present a novel technique to augment the repair of the UCL with suture tape to provide immediate biomechanical support and strength during the critical time of ligament healing. We describe the surgical technique of suture tape augmentation for thumb UCL repair.

Here's another excerpt from the abstract:

We present a representative case of a professional basketball player treated with this novel procedure. After the surgical repair, the patient was placed in a plaster splint for 3 days to immobilize the thumb and wrist. At 3 days postsurgery, the splint was removed and therapy initiated. Practice drills were initiated at 1 week postsurgery with the use of a removable hand-based thumb spica custom splint. During the entire postoperative period, the left thumb MCP joint had excellent stability to radial stress at full extension and 30 degrees of flexion. In addition, at 3 weeks postsurgery, the patient was able to oppose the thumb tip to the palmar-digital crease of the small finger and MCP joint motion was 0 to 50 degrees. The patient began strengthening exercises at this time, along with the ability to participate in all position-specific drills. At 5 weeks postsurgery, the patient was cleared to return to full play, without use of a splint.

https://www.ncbi.nlm.nih.gov/pubmed/28902098

This is why Brees can be back at 100% in less than six weeks. This is a new, yet very proven, procedure.

RailBoss · 09-27-2019, 08:44 PM

Rumor has it Drew is working out his left hand..

SaintSproles · 09-27-2019, 10:47 PM

Obviously we wouldn't want him to return vs the Bears on the road, eyeing the Arizona home game is intriguing. Don't be shocked if he starts that game.

hitta · 09-28-2019, 12:18 AM

Yes, Brees is accurate and that is one of the reasons he is successful. Brees is also intelligent and has seen everything. This is why Bridgewater is semi-struggling right now cause he's having to develop and learn confidence in particular throws. He is way too hesitant and needs to take more risks. A Brees that is a little off in his accuracy is better than 90% of what is in the league for the simple reason that he knows when and where to pull the trigger. The only question for me is if there is higher risk of him re-injuring himself by coming back earlier. I don't care if he's a bit off accuracy wise.

SaintFanInATLHELL · 09-28-2019, 10:41 AM

Originally Posted by SaintSproles

Obviously we wouldn't want him to return vs the Bears on the road, eyeing the Arizona home game is intriguing. Don't be shocked if he starts that game.

That makes little sense to me. First it's Arizona. Second there is a bye week following the game. Not playing in that game gets Brees an extra two weeks. So I'd be shocked if he played in the Arizona game.

At home against Atlanta on November 10th should be the target.

SFIAH

SaintFanInATLHELL · 09-28-2019, 10:48 AM

Originally Posted by hitta

He (TB) is way too hesitant and needs to take more risks.

I strongly disagree with this assessment. TB needs to be comfortable and self contained. His primary job first and foremost is not to give the ball away. Taking risky throws risks the ball being picked off.

Now that doesn't mean that TB shouldn't push the ball down the field. However, Payton should scheme for high levels of protection along with relatively open windows to throw into.

I'm going to keep saying that it's not TB's job to try to be Brees. It's not his job to even be a starting NFL QB at this point in time. It's is job to navigate this team to be in position to win games and not personally lose games.

An interception is way way worse than a sack or an incomplete pass. So Payton and TB should keep that risk in their back pocket until Brees gets back.

SFIAH

09-26-2019, 04:16 PM	#11
AsylumGuido 10000 POST CLUB Join Date: Sep 2007 Location: Bossier City, LA Posts: 26,274	Re: Drew Brees hopes to “beat” six-week prognosis for return Originally Posted by CHA_CHING I don't think they should rush Brees back out there. At his age and this specific injury, I'm worried if he'll even recover. Kurt Warner had this same injury in his final year with the Rams and it was the main culprit of what led to him becoming a journeyman for a brief bit. It took a long time for Warner to throw the ball with authority again. Brees is much older than he was at the time. Not sure where you got this information. Warner suffered a broken pinkie in 2002 and revealed after being benched in 2003 (final season with the Rams) that he had previously broken his hand and it didn't heal properly. Not relevant to the Brees injury at all. As for the Brees procedure, it is a relatively new procedure that allows for much quicker recovery as an internal brace is installed which allows the hand to be used while healing. And Brees is only 40 years old, which is considered young when it comes to healing and recovery ... especially when you take care of your body as well as Brees. darksoul35 and SaintSproles like this.
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09-26-2019, 07:27 PM	#12
Saint in Aus 100th Post Join Date: Oct 2014 Location: Perth, Western Australia Posts: 468	Re: Drew Brees hopes to “beat” six-week prognosis for return We should just deflate game balls to assist him returning sooner :P saintfan and Thirty3 like this.

09-27-2019, 11:43 AM	#13
vpheughan 1000 Posts + Join Date: Aug 2007 Posts: 4,525	Re: Drew Brees hopes to “beat” six-week prognosis for return As for the Brees procedure, it is a relatively new procedure Performed by Dr. Fronk N. Steen, credit Dr. Eye Gore with the assist!!
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09-27-2019, 01:35 PM	#14
WhoDat!656 10000 POST CLUB Join Date: Nov 2010 Location: Shreveport,Louisiana Posts: 16,062	Re: Drew Brees hopes to “beat” six-week prognosis for return Interesting info on the surgery that was performed on Drew Brees Abstract One of the most commonly injured structures of the thumb metacarpophalangeal (MCP) joint is the ulnar collateral ligament (UCL). An acute injury of this ligament is often amenable to primary repair. Despite the favorable outcomes of primary repair, the thumb is often restricted during initial healing of the ligament with immobilization and delayed rehabilitation. We present a novel technique to augment the repair of the UCL with suture tape to provide immediate biomechanical support and strength during the critical time of ligament healing. We describe the surgical technique of suture tape augmentation for thumb UCL repair. Here's another excerpt from the abstract: We present a representative case of a professional basketball player treated with this novel procedure. After the surgical repair, the patient was placed in a plaster splint for 3 days to immobilize the thumb and wrist. At 3 days postsurgery, the splint was removed and therapy initiated. Practice drills were initiated at 1 week postsurgery with the use of a removable hand-based thumb spica custom splint. During the entire postoperative period, the left thumb MCP joint had excellent stability to radial stress at full extension and 30 degrees of flexion. In addition, at 3 weeks postsurgery, the patient was able to oppose the thumb tip to the palmar-digital crease of the small finger and MCP joint motion was 0 to 50 degrees. The patient began strengthening exercises at this time, along with the ability to participate in all position-specific drills. At 5 weeks postsurgery, the patient was cleared to return to full play, without use of a splint. https://www.ncbi.nlm.nih.gov/pubmed/28902098 TheOak likes this.
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09-27-2019, 01:56 PM	#15
AsylumGuido 10000 POST CLUB Join Date: Sep 2007 Location: Bossier City, LA Posts: 26,274	Re: Drew Brees hopes to “beat” six-week prognosis for return Originally Posted by WhoDat!656 Interesting info on the surgery that was performed on Drew Brees Abstract One of the most commonly injured structures of the thumb metacarpophalangeal (MCP) joint is the ulnar collateral ligament (UCL). An acute injury of this ligament is often amenable to primary repair. Despite the favorable outcomes of primary repair, the thumb is often restricted during initial healing of the ligament with immobilization and delayed rehabilitation. We present a novel technique to augment the repair of the UCL with suture tape to provide immediate biomechanical support and strength during the critical time of ligament healing. We describe the surgical technique of suture tape augmentation for thumb UCL repair. Here's another excerpt from the abstract: We present a representative case of a professional basketball player treated with this novel procedure. After the surgical repair, the patient was placed in a plaster splint for 3 days to immobilize the thumb and wrist. At 3 days postsurgery, the splint was removed and therapy initiated. Practice drills were initiated at 1 week postsurgery with the use of a removable hand-based thumb spica custom splint. During the entire postoperative period, the left thumb MCP joint had excellent stability to radial stress at full extension and 30 degrees of flexion. In addition, at 3 weeks postsurgery, the patient was able to oppose the thumb tip to the palmar-digital crease of the small finger and MCP joint motion was 0 to 50 degrees. The patient began strengthening exercises at this time, along with the ability to participate in all position-specific drills. At 5 weeks postsurgery, the patient was cleared to return to full play, without use of a splint. https://www.ncbi.nlm.nih.gov/pubmed/28902098 This is why Brees can be back at 100% in less than six weeks. This is a new, yet very proven, procedure.

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09-27-2019, 08:44 PM	#16
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09-28-2019, 12:18 AM	#18
hitta 1000 Posts + Join Date: Oct 2009 Posts: 1,324	Re: Drew Brees hopes to “beat” six-week prognosis for return Yes, Brees is accurate and that is one of the reasons he is successful. Brees is also intelligent and has seen everything. This is why Bridgewater is semi-struggling right now cause he's having to develop and learn confidence in particular throws. He is way too hesitant and needs to take more risks. A Brees that is a little off in his accuracy is better than 90% of what is in the league for the simple reason that he knows when and where to pull the trigger. The only question for me is if there is higher risk of him re-injuring himself by coming back earlier. I don't care if he's a bit off accuracy wise.
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09-28-2019, 10:41 AM	#19
SaintFanInATLHELL The Professor Join Date: Oct 2003 Location: Lithonia, GA Posts: 2,776	Re: Drew Brees hopes to “beat” six-week prognosis for return Originally Posted by SaintSproles Obviously we wouldn't want him to return vs the Bears on the road, eyeing the Arizona home game is intriguing. Don't be shocked if he starts that game. That makes little sense to me. First it's Arizona. Second there is a bye week following the game. Not playing in that game gets Brees an extra two weeks. So I'd be shocked if he played in the Arizona game. At home against Atlanta on November 10th should be the target. SFIAH K Major likes this.

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SaintFanInATLHELL The Professor Join Date: Oct 2003 Location: Lithonia, GA Posts: 2,776	Re: Drew Brees hopes to “beat” six-week prognosis for return Originally Posted by hitta He (TB) is way too hesitant and needs to take more risks. I strongly disagree with this assessment. TB needs to be comfortable and self contained. His primary job first and foremost is not to give the ball away. Taking risky throws risks the ball being picked off. Now that doesn't mean that TB shouldn't push the ball down the field. However, Payton should scheme for high levels of protection along with relatively open windows to throw into. I'm going to keep saying that it's not TB's job to try to be Brees. It's not his job to even be a starting NFL QB at this point in time. It's is job to navigate this team to be in position to win games and not personally lose games. An interception is way way worse than a sack or an incomplete pass. So Payton and TB should keep that risk in their back pocket until Brees gets back. SFIAH K Major likes this.
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