Saints stomp Bears, move to 5-0 with Bridgewater

voodooido · 10-21-2019, 12:39 PM

I can’t understand this love for teddy! The guy is at best a game manager. The defense and ST is playing lights out. SP has done an amazing job changing the game to fit TB. I just can’t give credit to TB when it’s SP, ST and the defense winning the games. Every one is stepping up. This is a complete team who is no longer relying on a HOF qb

frydaddy · 10-21-2019, 01:07 PM

Originally Posted by voodooido

I can’t understand this love for teddy! The guy is at best a game manager. The defense and ST is playing lights out. SP has done an amazing job changing the game to fit TB. I just can’t give credit to TB when it’s SP, ST and the defense winning the games. Every one is stepping up. This is a complete team who is no longer relying on a HOF qb

Oh brother, same thing every week.. we win, people just wanna complain about Teddy. Look, the defense played great, and yes Payton called a great game. Drew needs Payton to call a great game in order to win too. Sure, Drew can and has carried this team when the defense was playing like hot poo, but that's the difference between future first ballot hall of fame QB's and every other QB. Nobody claims that Teddy is in Drew's league, but he's a good QB capable of leading this team to wins. And by the way, apart from the blocked punt for a safety, special teams did nothing to help us win that game. They were a hindrance most of the afternoon. Teddy played a good game, his biggest mistakes were missing a few throws. He also made some really good ones and didn't shrink away in the face of a pretty fierce pass rush. Even scrambled for a couple of key first downs. I'm tired of all the bellyaching about Teddy. As others have already said, this place is gonna be insufferable once Drew decides to hang it up.

TheOak · 10-21-2019, 01:53 PM

Originally Posted by frydaddy

Oh brother, same thing every week.. we win, people just wanna complain about Teddy. Look, the defense played great, and yes Payton called a great game. Drew needs Payton to call a great game in order to win too. Sure, Drew can and has carried this team when the defense was playing like hot poo, but that's the difference between future first ballot hall of fame QB's and every other QB. Nobody claims that Teddy is in Drew's league, but he's a good QB capable of leading this team to wins. And by the way, apart from the blocked punt for a safety, special teams did nothing to help us win that game. They were a hindrance most of the afternoon. Teddy played a good game, his biggest mistakes were missing a few throws. He also made some really good ones and didn't shrink away in the face of a pretty fierce pass rush. Even scrambled for a couple of key first downs. I'm tired of all the bellyaching about Teddy. As others have already said, this place is gonna be insufferable once Drew decides to hang it up.

Regardless of how you feel about Teddy or other people feelings about Teddy, I am not entirely sure you understand or have captured the impact of our Special Teams on that Bears game.

Neither a blocked punt nor a safety are common in this league, much less together, and when you manage to turn a teams first possession of a game into a safety after three plays you have impacted their game plan as well as put them on their heals. Then after our offense struggles to get to 3-20 at our 43 Morestead puts them at their 12... you just ate 1/2 the first Quarter off the clock with the only highlights being your defense and Special Teams.

See... There are things that others do not see which you see in Teddy, and there are things others see in our Special Teams that you do not see. No need to get all tired and tuned up about it.

frydaddy · 10-21-2019, 02:26 PM

Originally Posted by TheOak

Regardless of how you feel about Teddy or other people feelings about Teddy, I am not entirely sure you understand or have captured the impact of our Special Teams on that Bears game.

Neither a blocked punt nor a safety are common in this league, much less together, and when you manage to turn a teams first possession of a game into a safety after three plays you have impacted their game plan as well as put them on their heals. Then after our offense struggles to get to 3-20 at our 43 Morestead puts them at their 12... you just ate 1/2 the first Quarter off the clock with the only highlights being your defense and Special Teams.

See... There are things that others do not see which you see in Teddy, and there are things others see in our Special Teams that you do not see. No need to get all tired and tuned up about it.

Our special teams has been great overall this year. And the blocked punt for a safety was great. But the 102 yard kickoff return took the wind out of our sails quickly. I think even you said yourself in the game day thread that momentum shifted in their favor after that. Thankfully we got it back, but combining that with 2 missed FG's and a pretty lousy punt from Morstead that gave them good field position on their FG drive and I'd have to say that overall the ST unit was subpar yesterday. They weren't the reason we won the game, in fact their failures contributed heavily to the score staying close for as long as it did.

SaintGnome · 10-21-2019, 01:39 PM

Originally Posted by voodooido

I can’t understand this love for teddy! The guy is at best a game manager. The defense and ST is playing lights out. SP has done an amazing job changing the game to fit TB. I just can’t give credit to TB when it’s SP, ST and the defense winning the games. Every one is stepping up. This is a complete team who is no longer relying on a HOF qb

Do you really think crappy QB play couldn't have lost us games in which our D and ST played very well? You'd damn sure be blaming him if we were 0-5 with him behind the wheel regardless of the defense or special teams play so why not give him some credit since he's 5-0 against some very strong teams? Go back to the highlights of this game - he really threaded the needle to 13 a few times including a deep strike with two defenders pretty tight on him. I don't think we've seen just how much Teddy's capable of because we haven't had to. We end up in a few shootouts and he doesn't come through then maybe I'll change my mind but I see a good leader, with poise, strong arm,and damn pretty spiral.
As far as SP changing the game plan to fit TB, isn't that just common sense? I don't see why this should be a negative I never understood those coaches that force their system in regardless on whether it fits their talent or not (cough, cough Spangnolo)

10-21-2019, 12:39 PM	#1
voodooido 1000 Posts + Join Date: Oct 2009 Posts: 2,850	Re: Saints stomp Bears, move to 5-0 with Bridgewater I can’t understand this love for teddy! The guy is at best a game manager. The defense and ST is playing lights out. SP has done an amazing job changing the game to fit TB. I just can’t give credit to TB when it’s SP, ST and the defense winning the games. Every one is stepping up. This is a complete team who is no longer relying on a HOF qb
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10-21-2019, 01:07 PM	#2
frydaddy 1000 Posts + Join Date: Sep 2011 Location: Lafayette Posts: 1,965 Blog Entries: 1	Re: Saints stomp Bears, move to 5-0 with Bridgewater Originally Posted by voodooido I can’t understand this love for teddy! The guy is at best a game manager. The defense and ST is playing lights out. SP has done an amazing job changing the game to fit TB. I just can’t give credit to TB when it’s SP, ST and the defense winning the games. Every one is stepping up. This is a complete team who is no longer relying on a HOF qb Oh brother, same thing every week.. we win, people just wanna complain about Teddy. Look, the defense played great, and yes Payton called a great game. Drew needs Payton to call a great game in order to win too. Sure, Drew can and has carried this team when the defense was playing like hot poo, but that's the difference between future first ballot hall of fame QB's and every other QB. Nobody claims that Teddy is in Drew's league, but he's a good QB capable of leading this team to wins. And by the way, apart from the blocked punt for a safety, special teams did nothing to help us win that game. They were a hindrance most of the afternoon. Teddy played a good game, his biggest mistakes were missing a few throws. He also made some really good ones and didn't shrink away in the face of a pretty fierce pass rush. Even scrambled for a couple of key first downs. I'm tired of all the bellyaching about Teddy. As others have already said, this place is gonna be insufferable once Drew decides to hang it up. SaintFanQ, 73Saint and K Major like this.
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10-21-2019, 01:53 PM	#3
TheOak 10000 POST CLUB Join Date: Dec 2009 Location: Cypress Tx. Posts: 19,059	Re: Saints stomp Bears, move to 5-0 with Bridgewater Originally Posted by frydaddy Oh brother, same thing every week.. we win, people just wanna complain about Teddy. Look, the defense played great, and yes Payton called a great game. Drew needs Payton to call a great game in order to win too. Sure, Drew can and has carried this team when the defense was playing like hot poo, but that's the difference between future first ballot hall of fame QB's and every other QB. Nobody claims that Teddy is in Drew's league, but he's a good QB capable of leading this team to wins. And by the way, apart from the blocked punt for a safety, special teams did nothing to help us win that game. They were a hindrance most of the afternoon. Teddy played a good game, his biggest mistakes were missing a few throws. He also made some really good ones and didn't shrink away in the face of a pretty fierce pass rush. Even scrambled for a couple of key first downs. I'm tired of all the bellyaching about Teddy. As others have already said, this place is gonna be insufferable once Drew decides to hang it up. Regardless of how you feel about Teddy or other people feelings about Teddy, I am not entirely sure you understand or have captured the impact of our Special Teams on that Bears game. Neither a blocked punt nor a safety are common in this league, much less together, and when you manage to turn a teams first possession of a game into a safety after three plays you have impacted their game plan as well as put them on their heals. Then after our offense struggles to get to 3-20 at our 43 Morestead puts them at their 12... you just ate 1/2 the first Quarter off the clock with the only highlights being your defense and Special Teams. See... There are things that others do not see which you see in Teddy, and there are things others see in our Special Teams that you do not see. No need to get all tired and tuned up about it.
	It's not what you look at that matters, it's what you see. ~ Henry David Thoreau

10-21-2019, 02:26 PM	#4
frydaddy 1000 Posts + Join Date: Sep 2011 Location: Lafayette Posts: 1,965 Blog Entries: 1	Re: Saints stomp Bears, move to 5-0 with Bridgewater Originally Posted by TheOak Regardless of how you feel about Teddy or other people feelings about Teddy, I am not entirely sure you understand or have captured the impact of our Special Teams on that Bears game. Neither a blocked punt nor a safety are common in this league, much less together, and when you manage to turn a teams first possession of a game into a safety after three plays you have impacted their game plan as well as put them on their heals. Then after our offense struggles to get to 3-20 at our 43 Morestead puts them at their 12... you just ate 1/2 the first Quarter off the clock with the only highlights being your defense and Special Teams. See... There are things that others do not see which you see in Teddy, and there are things others see in our Special Teams that you do not see. No need to get all tired and tuned up about it. Our special teams has been great overall this year. And the blocked punt for a safety was great. But the 102 yard kickoff return took the wind out of our sails quickly. I think even you said yourself in the game day thread that momentum shifted in their favor after that. Thankfully we got it back, but combining that with 2 missed FG's and a pretty lousy punt from Morstead that gave them good field position on their FG drive and I'd have to say that overall the ST unit was subpar yesterday. They weren't the reason we won the game, in fact their failures contributed heavily to the score staying close for as long as it did.
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10-21-2019, 01:39 PM	#5
SaintGnome 500th Post Join Date: Jul 2017 Location: Bradenton,FL Posts: 642	Re: Saints stomp Bears, move to 5-0 with Bridgewater Originally Posted by voodooido I can’t understand this love for teddy! The guy is at best a game manager. The defense and ST is playing lights out. SP has done an amazing job changing the game to fit TB. I just can’t give credit to TB when it’s SP, ST and the defense winning the games. Every one is stepping up. This is a complete team who is no longer relying on a HOF qb Do you really think crappy QB play couldn't have lost us games in which our D and ST played very well? You'd damn sure be blaming him if we were 0-5 with him behind the wheel regardless of the defense or special teams play so why not give him some credit since he's 5-0 against some very strong teams? Go back to the highlights of this game - he really threaded the needle to 13 a few times including a deep strike with two defenders pretty tight on him. I don't think we've seen just how much Teddy's capable of because we haven't had to. We end up in a few shootouts and he doesn't come through then maybe I'll change my mind but I see a good leader, with poise, strong arm,and damn pretty spiral. As far as SP changing the game plan to fit TB, isn't that just common sense? I don't see why this should be a negative I never understood those coaches that force their system in regardless on whether it fits their talent or not (cough, cough Spangnolo)

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