CB situation just ruined our chance to get the key WR in FA

Rugby Saint II · 10-23-2019, 11:53 AM

Who says we're bringing in a free agent? Loomis might just stand pat and hand the draft picks he saves over to Jeff Ireland next year and watch him do his thing.

ScottF · 10-23-2019, 12:09 PM

We cut Zenner Tuesday, which hints at AK being healthy this week.
I'm not arguing with Apple's mom about anything, so hopefully we are a go there

I'm 100% on board with trading for a wide receiver, but it's worth noting that we are already down our 2nd and 7th round picks.

And next year's FA will be no picnic:
QB Drew Brees
QB Teddy Bridgewater
LB A.J. Klein
CB Eli Apple
CB P.J. Williams
CB Ken Crawley
SS Vonn Bell
DT David Onyemata
OG Andrus Peat
FB Zach Line
RB Dwayne Washington

K Major · 10-23-2019, 12:16 PM

Originally Posted by ScottF

We cut Zenner Tuesday, which hints at AK being healthy this week.
I'm not arguing with Apple's mom about anything, so hopefully we are a go there

I'm 100% on board with trading for a wide receiver, but it's worth noting that we are already down our 2nd and 7th round picks.

And next year's FA will be no picnic:
QB Drew Brees
QB Teddy Bridgewater
LB A.J. Klein
CB Eli Apple
CB P.J. Williams
CB Ken Crawley
SS Vonn Bell
DT David Onyemata
OG Andrus Peat
FB Zach Line
RB Dwayne Washington

Based on initial numbers ....

AJ Klein
Ken Crawley
Andrus Peat
PJ Williams
2 Glove Teddy

All are gone in 2020.

rezburna · 10-23-2019, 03:27 PM

Originally Posted by K Major

Based on initial numbers ....

AJ Klein
Ken Crawley
Andrus Peat
PJ Williams
2 Glove Teddy

All are gone in 2020.

I’m hoping we can keep 2Gloves, but everybody else can go. As far as Jamison Crowder, he’s definitely an upgrade over Carr. Crowder would also add a little more speed to the position. He’s a 4.5 guy. Not blazing, but decent speed.

FinSaint · 10-23-2019, 03:38 PM

Originally Posted by rezburna

I agree with you 100%. I believe there are more options on the trading block that are just going unmentioned. It was either AJ Green or Emmanuel Sanders, but I believe a talent like Parker would do well here. Perhaps even a Laquon Treadwell.

Treadwell is a bust, and I never use that term.

K Major · 10-23-2019, 03:50 PM

Originally Posted by FinSaint

Treadwell is a bust, and I never use that term.

Possibly peaked at Ole Miss? Unfortunate & Zimmer has given him more than enough time to reach his potential.

Maybe he needs more coaching up/change of scenery but his confidence has been shaky.

st thomas · 10-23-2019, 04:30 PM

Originally Posted by K Major

You have to do something.

Stats worth mentioning in the NFCCG vs Rams 2019

Michael Thomas - > 4 rec 36 yards on 7 targets / 0 TD's.

"Other guys " ...

Carr 1 catch

TLL 0 catches

J Hill 1 catch

TG Jr 3 catches

Arnold 0 catches (dropped a TD)

Anyone that tells me we don't need another option/#2 WR is kidding themselves.

Finally someone remembers our offense less times that count.

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darksoul35 · 10-23-2019, 07:26 PM

Another thing to consider in a trade is losing draft picks for established Vets hurts the cap. We need to draft one like we did MT and get them on that rookie scale for a few years.

Audiotom · 10-23-2019, 08:18 PM

Originally Posted by saintsfan1976

Unfortunate injury for sure but you’re mistaken to correlate it with MT’s play. What about Ginn dropping a TD? Or Lutz missing a FG? Or what Cam Jordan had for breakfast?

So much anxiety...

Pats and Niners OVERPAID for their trades. It’s clear the front office isn’t willing to give that much compensation for a role player WR. Sit tight. I’ll bet you we find the right player

not anxious

Thomas covers the ball - the defense isn't out on the field for Apple to get hurt

Thomas + another good veteran WR = more spread out - less double teamed pass coverage

Audiotom · 10-23-2019, 08:22 PM

Originally Posted by Rugby Saint II

Who says we're bringing in a free agent? Loomis might just stand pat and hand the draft picks he saves over to Jeff Ireland next year and watch him do his thing.

perhaps to the detriment of our deep playoff run

Thomas and Kamara get doubled up and we don't have that many more weapons - watch late 2018

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Rugby Saint II Bounty Money $$$ Join Date: Oct 2008 Location: 5800 Airline Dr. Metairie, LA. Posts: 24,073	Re: CB situation just ruined our chance to get the key WR in FA Who says we're bringing in a free agent? Loomis might just stand pat and hand the draft picks he saves over to Jeff Ireland next year and watch him do his thing. saintsfan1976 likes this.

10-23-2019, 12:09 PM	#22
ScottF 5000 POSTS! + Join Date: Feb 2007 Location: Atlanta Posts: 6,324	Re: CB situation just ruined our chance to get the key WR in FA We cut Zenner Tuesday, which hints at AK being healthy this week. I'm not arguing with Apple's mom about anything, so hopefully we are a go there I'm 100% on board with trading for a wide receiver, but it's worth noting that we are already down our 2nd and 7th round picks. And next year's FA will be no picnic: QB Drew Brees QB Teddy Bridgewater LB A.J. Klein CB Eli Apple CB P.J. Williams CB Ken Crawley SS Vonn Bell DT David Onyemata OG Andrus Peat FB Zach Line RB Dwayne Washington

10-23-2019, 12:16 PM	#23
K Major Site Donor 2019 Join Date: Jan 2013 Location: Bedford, TX Posts: 24,622 Blog Entries: 3	Re: CB situation just ruined our chance to get the key WR in FA Originally Posted by ScottF We cut Zenner Tuesday, which hints at AK being healthy this week. I'm not arguing with Apple's mom about anything, so hopefully we are a go there I'm 100% on board with trading for a wide receiver, but it's worth noting that we are already down our 2nd and 7th round picks. And next year's FA will be no picnic: QB Drew Brees QB Teddy Bridgewater LB A.J. Klein CB Eli Apple CB P.J. Williams CB Ken Crawley SS Vonn Bell DT David Onyemata OG Andrus Peat FB Zach Line RB Dwayne Washington Based on initial numbers .... AJ Klein Ken Crawley Andrus Peat PJ Williams 2 Glove Teddy All are gone in 2020. st thomas and MarchingOn like this.

10-23-2019, 03:27 PM	#24
rezburna 5000 POSTS! + Join Date: Feb 2013 Location: Kenner, LA Posts: 7,935	Re: CB situation just ruined our chance to get the key WR in FA Originally Posted by K Major Based on initial numbers .... AJ Klein Ken Crawley Andrus Peat PJ Williams 2 Glove Teddy All are gone in 2020. I’m hoping we can keep 2Gloves, but everybody else can go. As far as Jamison Crowder, he’s definitely an upgrade over Carr. Crowder would also add a little more speed to the position. He’s a 4.5 guy. Not blazing, but decent speed.

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FinSaint Site Donor 2015 Join Date: Aug 2011 Location: Finland... formerly Southern Virginia Posts: 4,961	Re: CB situation just ruined our chance to get the key WR in FA Originally Posted by rezburna I agree with you 100%. I believe there are more options on the trading block that are just going unmentioned. It was either AJ Green or Emmanuel Sanders, but I believe a talent like Parker would do well here. Perhaps even a Laquon Treadwell. Treadwell is a bust, and I never use that term. Rugby Saint II likes this.

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K Major Site Donor 2019 Join Date: Jan 2013 Location: Bedford, TX Posts: 24,622 Blog Entries: 3	Re: CB situation just ruined our chance to get the key WR in FA Originally Posted by FinSaint Treadwell is a bust, and I never use that term. Possibly peaked at Ole Miss? Unfortunate & Zimmer has given him more than enough time to reach his potential. Maybe he needs more coaching up/change of scenery but his confidence has been shaky.

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st thomas Site Donor 2018 Join Date: Dec 2009 Location: lafayette Posts: 7,753	Re: CB situation just ruined our chance to get the key WR in FA Originally Posted by K Major You have to do something. Stats worth mentioning in the NFCCG vs Rams 2019 Michael Thomas - > 4 rec 36 yards on 7 targets / 0 TD's. "Other guys " ... Carr 1 catch TLL 0 catches J Hill 1 catch TG Jr 3 catches Arnold 0 catches (dropped a TD) Anyone that tells me we don't need another option/#2 WR is kidding themselves. Finally someone remembers our offense less times that count. Sent from my iPhone using Tapatalk

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10-23-2019, 08:18 PM	#29
Audiotom 1000 Posts + Join Date: Sep 2013 Posts: 1,094 Blog Entries: 1	Re: CB situation just ruined our chance to get the key WR in FA Originally Posted by saintsfan1976 Unfortunate injury for sure but you’re mistaken to correlate it with MT’s play. What about Ginn dropping a TD? Or Lutz missing a FG? Or what Cam Jordan had for breakfast? So much anxiety... Pats and Niners OVERPAID for their trades. It’s clear the front office isn’t willing to give that much compensation for a role player WR. Sit tight. I’ll bet you we find the right player not anxious Thomas covers the ball - the defense isn't out on the field for Apple to get hurt Thomas + another good veteran WR = more spread out - less double teamed pass coverage

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Audiotom 1000 Posts + Join Date: Sep 2013 Posts: 1,094 Blog Entries: 1	Re: CB situation just ruined our chance to get the key WR in FA Originally Posted by Rugby Saint II Who says we're bringing in a free agent? Loomis might just stand pat and hand the draft picks he saves over to Jeff Ireland next year and watch him do his thing. perhaps to the detriment of our deep playoff run Thomas and Kamara get doubled up and we don't have that many more weapons - watch late 2018

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