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foreverfan 11-13-2019 09:16 PM
Re: God and the Saints?
 
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Originally Posted by saintfan (Post 867319)
I didn't attend LSU, but I sure did party there a few times. Challenging someone's 'fanhood' is what little men do. I agree with you 110%.

You partied there a few times? :help: Seems to me you are a fan by default.



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AsylumGuido 11-14-2019 07:14 AM
Re: God and the Saints?
 
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Originally Posted by burningmetal (Post 867310)
I can see the point went right over your head. Your rationale for being a Saints fan is that you are emotionally connected to them. All the other side bar comments you made are really neither here nor there. And emotions are what connect ALL fans to ANY team.

A fake fan is one who only supports winning teams, and constantly jumps from one team to another. We call those bandwagon fans. I know you're familiar with the term. For me, my Dad went to LSU and I grew up watching LSU with him. I never went there, but they are the state school, and I've always loved them and do not pull for any other college team.

So if you have a problem with me calling myself an LSU fan, then I have a problem with you calling yourself a Saints fan. And for you to say "it wasn't like that in North Carolina" is bull crap. Yeah, you have more major universities there, but if you think that all fans of those teams went to those colleges, you are lying to yourself.

So I have a great idea, to remove all confusion. Why don't we all just pull for whoever we want to, and why don't you just find something else to complain about.
I have no problem with you, or anyone, calling themselves an LSU fan. Especially since you have the family tie. That makes perfect sense. I mentioned that as a qualifier earlier. What I don't understand are those that went to some other college, has no direct ties to LSU, and still calls LSU "their" team.

And, yes, I am very familiar with bandwagon fans. There are a lot of them here in northeast Louisiana. They are also known as Cowboys fans. A surprisingly large number of them are also LSU fans. They either never attended any college, or went to somewhere like La Tech or ULM (NSU).

And I know quite a few people from NC, and virtually all of their collegiate sports ties are either personal or familial. Many are split with some members being UNC fans and others being NCSU fans. Same with Duke, Wake Forest and ECU to a lessor degree. Much smaller schools so less of a fanbase.

As a side note, did you attend school elsewhere and if so, where?

AsylumGuido 11-14-2019 07:21 AM
Re: God and the Saints?
 
Quote:
Originally Posted by saintfan (Post 867319)
I didn't attend LSU, but I sure did party there a few times. Challenging someone's 'fanhood' is what little men do. I agree with you 110%.
Not challenging fanhood, just saying that I don't understand being a fan of a college team with no ties whatsoever. Especially if said person did attend a school with a sports program elsewhere. That has the stench of "bandwagonism" to which burningmetal mentioned earlier. If LSU was perennially outside of the top 25 like, say, La Tech, would they still have the statewide following that they enjoy today?

foreverfan 11-14-2019 08:54 AM
Re: God and the Saints?
 
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Originally Posted by AsylumGuido (Post 867334)
Not challenging fanhood, just saying that I don't understand being a fan of a college team with no ties whatsoever. Especially if said person did attend a school with a sports program elsewhere. That has the stench of "bandwagonism" to which burningmetal mentioned earlier. If LSU was perennially outside of the top 25 like, say, La Tech, would they still have the statewide following that they enjoy today?
You are confused... If La Tech had the history, was part of the SEC and beat Alabama, it would be a different story. But it ain't close.

It is all about the history, the SEC and the fact that the SEC is a Super Conference in college football. Do you realize that LSUs stadium holds 102,321 fans. You ever sit in the nose bleed seat? Wow... that is high.

Guido... you may need to go back to the Asylum on this one sir. :lol:
My bird feels insulted, and now has a neck ache. :eek:

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st thomas 11-14-2019 10:20 AM
Re: God and the Saints?
 
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Originally Posted by foreverfan (Post 867351)
You are confused... If La Tech had the history, was part of the SEC and beat Alabama, it would be a different story. But it ain't close.

It is all about the history, the SEC and the fact that the SEC is a Super Conference in college football. Do you realize that LSUs stadium holds 102,321 fans. You ever sit in the nose bleed seat? Wow... that is high.

Guido... you may need to go back to the Asylum on this one sir. :lol:
My bird feels insulted, and now has a neck ache. :eek:

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AG needs to go to one game in Tiger stadium against a hhh Florida /Bama a SEC tilt packed house it’ll raise your skin. Greatest feeling in the world. Made my wife a fan. Just saying she’s USL grad.


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foreverfan 11-14-2019 11:12 AM
Re: God and the Saints?
 
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Originally Posted by st thomas (Post 867387)
AG needs to go to one game in Tiger stadium against a hhh Florida /Bama a SEC tilt packed house it’ll raise your skin. Greatest feeling in the world. Made my wife a fan. Just saying she’s USL grad.


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We all love the Saints but there aint nothing in Louisiana like Tiger stadium. It is a different incredible experience.

st thomas 11-14-2019 11:13 AM
Re: God and the Saints?
 
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Originally Posted by foreverfan (Post 867405)
We all love the Saints but there ai.t nothing in Louisiana like Tiger stadium.


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foreverfan 11-14-2019 11:42 AM
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The first time I heard WhoDat was at Tiger Stadium in the 1980s.

Utah_Saint 11-14-2019 06:30 PM
Re: God and the Saints?
 
Quote:
Originally Posted by AsylumGuido (Post 867334)
Not challenging fanhood, just saying that I don't understand being a fan of a college team with no ties whatsoever. Especially if said person did attend a school with a sports program elsewhere. That has the stench of "bandwagonism" to which burningmetal mentioned earlier. If LSU was perennially outside of the top 25 like, say, La Tech, would they still have the statewide following that they enjoy today?
Hey, why'd you have to go an drag Tech into this?

Go Bulldogs!!

vpheughan 11-14-2019 06:59 PM
Re: God and the Saints?
 
"I didn't attend LSU, but I did stay at a Holiday Inn Express!!

Got my Doctorates Magna Cum Lade from BNG.

One each in Sports Orthopedics, Cardiac Anomalies and Pro Football General Management. Not to mention NUMEROUS BS'S on a PLETHORA of other MISCELLANEA.

All WHILST sitting on my ARSE using BOLD FONT TO PROJECT MY HUBRIS!!

Here's another clue for you all..............
Epstein knew......................the Walrus Was Paul!!!

AsylumGuido 11-14-2019 07:04 PM
Re: God and the Saints?
 
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Originally Posted by Utah_Saint (Post 867458)
Hey, why'd you have to go an drag Tech into this?

Go Bulldogs!!
Because I have respect for Tech fans that actually pull for their team instead of LSU.

Go Tech!

K Major 11-14-2019 08:07 PM
Re: God and the Saints?
 
Quote:
Originally Posted by vpheughan (Post 867459)
"I didn't attend LSU, but I did stay at a Holiday Inn Express!!

Got my Doctorates Magna Cum Lade from BNG.

One each in Sports Orthopedics, Cardiac Anomalies and Pro Football General Management. Not to mention NUMEROUS BS'S on a PLETHORA of other MISCELLANEA.

All WHILST sitting on my ARSE using BOLD FONT TO PROJECT MY HUBRIS!!

Here's another clue for you all..............
Epstein knew......................the Walrus Was Paul!!!
You're funny :broccoli:

st thomas 11-14-2019 08:10 PM
Re: God and the Saints?
 
Quote:
Originally Posted by vpheughan (Post 867459)
"I didn't attend LSU, but I did stay at a Holiday Inn Express!!

Got my Doctorates Magna Cum Lade from BNG.

One each in Sports Orthopedics, Cardiac Anomalies and Pro Football General Management. Not to mention NUMEROUS BS'S on a PLETHORA of other MISCELLANEA.

All WHILST sitting on my ARSE using BOLD FONT TO PROJECT MY HUBRIS!!

Here's another clue for you all..............
Epstein knew......................the Walrus Was Paul!!!


Hey I got the BS down pat


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saintfan 11-14-2019 08:15 PM
Re: God and the Saints?
 
Quote:
Originally Posted by vpheughan (Post 867459)
"I didn't attend LSU, but I did stay at a Holiday Inn Express!!

Got my Doctorates Magna Cum Lade from BNG.

One each in Sports Orthopedics, Cardiac Anomalies and Pro Football General Management. Not to mention NUMEROUS BS'S on a PLETHORA of other MISCELLANEA.

All WHILST sitting on my ARSE using BOLD FONT TO PROJECT MY HUBRIS!!

Here's another clue for you all..............
Epstein knew......................the Walrus Was Paul!!!
Your age is showing. And Eric Burdon was the Eggman.

:banana:

burningmetal 11-15-2019 03:28 AM
Re: God and the Saints?
 
Quote:
Originally Posted by AsylumGuido (Post 867332)
I have no problem with you, or anyone, calling themselves an LSU fan. Especially since you have the family tie. That makes perfect sense. I mentioned that as a qualifier earlier. What I don't understand are those that went to some other college, has no direct ties to LSU, and still calls LSU "their" team.

And, yes, I am very familiar with bandwagon fans. There are a lot of them here in northeast Louisiana. They are also known as Cowboys fans. A surprisingly large number of them are also LSU fans. They either never attended any college, or went to somewhere like La Tech or ULM (NSU).

And I know quite a few people from NC, and virtually all of their collegiate sports ties are either personal or familial. Many are split with some members being UNC fans and others being NCSU fans. Same with Duke, Wake Forest and ECU to a lessor degree. Much smaller schools so less of a fanbase.

As a side note, did you attend school elsewhere and if so, where?
You don't have to have any direct ties to not only be a fan, but a "true" fan. You have a different definition of bandwagon fan from the one I referenced. I said a bandwagon fan is someone who only pulls for winning teams, and jumps from team to team. Meaning, they drop their team once they start losing and find another. That's a bandwagon fan. You can find them anywhere, contrary to your belief that they either do not exist in North Carolina, or are somehow less in numbers over there.

But if you are a fan of a team from a college you never attended, nor have any ties to, but you have always been a fan of that team, and never pull for any other team, is that a bandwagon fan? No, it is not.

I know people who grew up as LSU fans, but went to another college because it was closer, or it had a particular type of class they wanted. They remain LSU fans. LSU, as I said, is the state school. People from Louisiana want to pull for a team that represents them, and it is only natural that the flagship university is what people gravitate towards. Fans of other teams in this state are people who typically went to other schools, and grew up hating LSU because their parents hated LSU, because THEY went to other schools and LSU usually kicked their school's butts. But the majority of people gravitate towards LSU around here. Some pull for every team in the state, and don't have a specific allegiance.

In a place like North Carolina, there isn't really a flagship school. You have a number of major universities who all vary in which sports they are successful in. So it's spread out. But if you think there aren't UNC and Duke fans who went to North Carolina A&T, then you are fooling yourself. You're only comparing the fans of the major universities in North Carolina, but in Louisiana, you expect that people who go to small colleges shouldn't be LSU fans. You're not being remotely realistic.

And I did not attend a college. My father home schooled myself and my siblings, and attending college was never a practical option for me. My generation and those who are currently in college are unfortunately the targets of indoctrination, rather than education. If you want a degree in ignorance, in today's world? You go to college.

But LSU is something that is a huge part of my upbringing. It's Louisiana, it's big time level, and the majority of the players are from this state.

I could have been a Tulane, or La Tech fan. But I'm not. And it's not because LSU was always a winner. My earliest memories of LSU football were the darkest times in the history of the program... The Curley Hallman days.

So my suggestion to you is that before you assume that LSU fans are somehow mostly bandwagon fans, maybe you can go and ask each person if they just suddenly became fans one day when it was convenient. Maybe you can ask people who went to other schools in this state, but pull for LSU, if they grew up as LSU fans long before attending college. I'm pretty sure none of them will ask for your permission to pull for LSU, but feel free to poll them on their level of concern on the subject.

st thomas 11-15-2019 07:32 AM
Re: God and the Saints?
 
Quote:
Originally Posted by vpheughan (Post 867459)
"I didn't attend LSU, but I did stay at a Holiday Inn Express!!

Got my Doctorates Magna Cum Lade from BNG.

One each in Sports Orthopedics, Cardiac Anomalies and Pro Football General Management. Not to mention NUMEROUS BS'S on a PLETHORA of other MISCELLANEA.

All WHILST sitting on my ARSE using BOLD FONT TO PROJECT MY HUBRIS!!

Here's another clue for you all..............
Epstein knew......................the Walrus Was Paul!!!


Hey vpheughan.
That Epstein fella was on welcome back kotter? [emoji40]


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vpheughan 11-15-2019 08:54 AM
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Yes, I am that OLD!

st thomas 11-15-2019 09:04 AM
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Originally Posted by vpheughan (Post 867495)
Yes, I am that OLD!


One of my favorites


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foreverfan 11-15-2019 11:24 AM
Re: God and the Saints?
 
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Originally Posted by vpheughan (Post 867495)
Yes, I am that OLD!
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AsylumGuido 11-15-2019 01:50 PM
Re: God and the Saints?
 
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Originally Posted by burningmetal (Post 867477)
You don't have to have any direct ties to not only be a fan, but a "true" fan. You have a different definition of bandwagon fan from the one I referenced. I said a bandwagon fan is someone who only pulls for winning teams, and jumps from team to team. Meaning, they drop their team once they start losing and find another. That's a bandwagon fan. You can find them anywhere, contrary to your belief that they either do not exist in North Carolina, or are somehow less in numbers over there.

But if you are a fan of a team from a college you never attended, nor have any ties to, but you have always been a fan of that team, and never pull for any other team, is that a bandwagon fan? No, it is not.

I know people who grew up as LSU fans, but went to another college because it was closer, or it had a particular type of class they wanted. They remain LSU fans. LSU, as I said, is the state school. People from Louisiana want to pull for a team that represents them, and it is only natural that the flagship university is what people gravitate towards. Fans of other teams in this state are people who typically went to other schools, and grew up hating LSU because their parents hated LSU, because THEY went to other schools and LSU usually kicked their school's butts. But the majority of people gravitate towards LSU around here. Some pull for every team in the state, and don't have a specific allegiance.

In a place like North Carolina, there isn't really a flagship school. You have a number of major universities who all vary in which sports they are successful in. So it's spread out. But if you think there aren't UNC and Duke fans who went to North Carolina A&T, then you are fooling yourself. You're only comparing the fans of the major universities in North Carolina, but in Louisiana, you expect that people who go to small colleges shouldn't be LSU fans. You're not being remotely realistic.

And I did not attend a college. My father home schooled myself and my siblings, and attending college was never a practical option for me. My generation and those who are currently in college are unfortunately the targets of indoctrination, rather than education. If you want a degree in ignorance, in today's world? You go to college.

But LSU is something that is a huge part of my upbringing. It's Louisiana, it's big time level, and the majority of the players are from this state.

I could have been a Tulane, or La Tech fan. But I'm not. And it's not because LSU was always a winner. My earliest memories of LSU football were the darkest times in the history of the program... The Curley Hallman days.

So my suggestion to you is that before you assume that LSU fans are somehow mostly bandwagon fans, maybe you can go and ask each person if they just suddenly became fans one day when it was convenient. Maybe you can ask people who went to other schools in this state, but pull for LSU, if they grew up as LSU fans long before attending college. I'm pretty sure none of them will ask for your permission to pull for LSU, but feel free to poll them on their level of concern on the subject.
Thanks for explaining. As I said, I don't see anything wrong with being a fan of a school like LSU, I simply said I don't get it. I've never been much of a fan of college football. I've always preferred the pro games. While I was at NC State I couldn't really be much of a fan either since I was with the media covering the games. Cheering for "your team" is frowned upon in the press box and on the sideline. Yet, NC State is the only college team I support whatsoever.

foreverfan 11-16-2019 12:10 AM
Re: God and the Saints?
 
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Originally Posted by AsylumGuido (Post 867533)
Thanks for explaining. I simply said I don't get it. I've never been much of a fan of college football. I've always preferred the pro games.

That explains it. College football is completely different.

I love both teams but I will say that I only watch LSU when there is a meaning SEC game or a games that means something to the polls. I always watch the Saints.



Why does anybody have to be 100% fan to like a winner? I would say I am a casual LSU fan because I just don't have the time or desire to watch so many meaningless games against weak opponents. But if LSU becomes #1 and beats Alabama in Alabama, that is historic and worth watching even if you are a fan of another SEC team. I will watch the rest of the SEC games. Call me a closet fan. I'm still loving this. :cool:


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AsylumGuido 11-16-2019 07:33 AM
Re: God and the Saints?
 
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Originally Posted by foreverfan (Post 867570)
That explains it. College football is completely different.

I love both teams but I will say that I only watch LSU when there is a meaning SEC game or a games that means something to the polls. I always watch the Saints.
Pretty much the same for me. I will always watch NC State if I can get the game. We did watch LSU/Alabama, but other than that I'm usually busy doing other stuff on Saturday.. But, I watch every minute of every Thursday, Sunday Night and Monday Night game. I watch every minute of every Saints game and watch portions of every other game on the Sunday Ticket game mix switching audio from game to game. Even when the Saints are playing I switch to game mix during every commercial.

SaintGup 11-24-2019 11:59 AM
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Originally Posted by burningmetal (Post 867310)
I can see the point went right over your head. Your rationale for being a Saints fan is that you are emotionally connected to them. All the other side bar comments you made are really neither here nor there. And emotions are what connect ALL fans to ANY team.

A fake fan is one who only supports winning teams, and constantly jumps from one team to another. We call those bandwagon fans. I know you're familiar with the term. For me, my Dad went to LSU and I grew up watching LSU with him. I never went there, but they are the state school, and I've always loved them and do not pull for any other college team.

So if you have a problem with me calling myself an LSU fan, then I have a problem with you calling yourself a Saints fan. And for you to say "it wasn't like that in North Carolina" is bull crap. Yeah, you have more major universities there, but if you think that all fans of those teams went to those colleges, you are lying to yourself.

So I have a great idea, to remove all confusion. Why don't we all just pull for whoever we want to, and why don't you just find something else to complain about.
I never went to college/university and always consider myself the smartest person in the room...except when other people are in there and spoil my moment!

OldMaid 11-24-2019 12:14 PM
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Saints.
I never went to LSU or a game there.
I graduated from UNO.

skymike 11-25-2019 07:49 AM
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Originally Posted by OldMaid (Post 868659)
Saints.
I never went to LSU or a game there.
I graduated from UNO.
GEAUX UNO.
HI THERE! how you been???
We had a great time yesterday, and you should join our next Saints party.
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Originally Posted by AsylumGuido (Post 866981)
I don't get the whole pulling for a college that you never attended.
You know? I'm kinda there, also Guido. I know guys who went to ULL, but they're all LSU, and I'm just kind of like... ?
But this is America. People have the right to cheer whatever they want. I'm not the Sports Police.
Plus, as FF pointed out, his daughter went to LSU, and prob. some of his money, so he can drive a purple and gold van, if he wants. My daughters are Aggies, and I know lots of A&M people, and it is a big deal, and I think its cool. There might be other associations for some people also. I spent a lot of time near Natchitoches, so I'd definitely root for Northwestern. Im getting a lot of customers who went to schools like Sam Houston State and McNeese. I admire people who get all into these kind of schools. If I went to Nichols St, you couldnt shut me up about it. So, salute to Thibodaux people.
I never could really get all into college, because of the disparity, the playoff system, or lack of, and also, I find the overtime bizarre. But mostly the disparity. Huge schools, with big sports budgets. Small schools with no chance. I just dont see how that's fun. I always like the underdog in college, but I know next to nothing about college football.
Of course, the atmosphere is the best thing about the college game, and all the rivalries, and hype, and LOYALTY.
I have a million friends who are all about LSU, and they dont know that I'm not so much. I feel like the gay guy at the office - where people are talking sports, when people come up to me, and say, "omg did you see that crap last night?" I'm just like, "How do I feel? I feel so betrayed, bewildered...." (anyone remember that movie line?) But these are my friends, so if LSU makes them happy, I'm glad too. Tiger Stadium is certainly an exciting place. I've actually circled it on the way to NOLA, just to hear the crowd and music, so maybe I do have somewhat an LSU Thing.

But nothing gives me a happy, glowing Monday morning, like a Saints win.

st thomas 11-25-2019 07:54 AM
Re: God and the Saints?
 
Quote:
Originally Posted by skymike (Post 869073)
GEAUX UNO.

HI THERE! how you been???

We had a great time yesterday, and you should join our next Saints party.

You know? I'm kinda there, also Guido. I know guys who went to ULL, but they're all LSU, and I'm just kind of like... ?

But this is America. People have the right to cheer whatever they want. I'm not the Sports Police.

Plus, as FF pointed out, his daughter went to LSU, and prob. some of his money, so he can drive a purple and gold van, if he wants. My daughters are Aggies, and I know lots of A&M people, and it is a big deal, and I think its cool. There might be other associations for some people also. I spent a lot of time near Natchitoches, so I'd definitely root for Northwestern. Im getting a lot of customers who went to schools like Sam Houston State and McNeese. I admire people who get all into these kind of schools. If I went to Nichols St, you couldnt shut me up about it. So, salute to Thibodaux people.

I never could really get all into college, because of the disparity, the playoff system, or lack of, and also, I find the overtime bizarre. But mostly the disparity. Huge schools, with big sports budgets. Small schools with no chance. I just dont see how that's fun. I always like the underdog in college, but I know next to nothing about college football.

Of course, the atmosphere is the best thing about the college game, and all the rivalries, and hype, and LOYALTY.

I have a million friends who are all about LSU, and they dont know that I'm not so much. I feel like the gay guy at the office - where people are talking sports, when people come up to me, and say, "omg did you see that crap last night?" I'm just like, "How do I feel? I feel so betrayed, bewildered...." (anyone remember that movie line?) But these are my friends, so if LSU makes them happy, I'm glad too. Tiger Stadium is certainly an exciting place. I've actually circled it on the way to NOLA, just to hear the crowd and music, so maybe I do have somewhat an LSU Thing.



But nothing gives me a happy, glowing Monday morning, like a Saints win.


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skymike 11-25-2019 08:59 AM
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Originally Posted by st thomas (Post 869075)
Did u mention the colonels ya baby.


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colonels... dammit Tom,
you stumped me... early in the morning...

damn.. I know this... ????

give me a clue.

foreverfan 12-05-2019 09:50 PM
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I'm pulling for LSU to win the SEC Championship and the National Championship just like the Saints winning the playoffs and the Superbowl because my family and friends have been watching the SEC as long as the Saints.

Love a good football party with my best friends.

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The Dude 12-06-2019 03:00 AM
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Yea God, Santa, and Puff the magic dragon have such an influence on sports.
All fiery tales and made up stories to keep kids in line.
Glad you didn’t say Jesus because I would like to rip that numb nuts a new one.

st thomas 12-16-2019 09:03 AM
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I can say this if anyone didn’t wipe a tear or 2 for Joe Burreaux and our state of Louisiana the past weekend we’ll your possibly a closet bama fan. U know who u are.[emoji872][emoji3]


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foreverfan 12-16-2019 09:36 AM
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Originally Posted by st thomas (Post 872324)
I can say this if anyone didn’t wipe a tear or 2 for Joe Burreaux and our state of Louisiana the past weekend we’ll your possibly a closet bama fan. U know who u are.[emoji872][emoji3]


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Yea... a great year for Tigers Football... I bet we have some closet fans on this website.



Now on to the Championship and history!


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