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FinSaint 11-16-2019 10:12 AM

Re: Saints won’t be at Colin Kaepernick’s workout
 
Taysom Hill turned 29 this year, so he isn't in his 30's.

foreverfan 11-16-2019 10:13 AM

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When all else fails.....continue to call someone you've never met "little guy." Jesus isn't smiling on you.


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AsylumGuido 11-16-2019 10:27 AM

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Originally Posted by rezburna (Post 867585)
I want to see the kind of offense Bill Bellichick would build around someone of his skill set. Bill wants to go two and three TE’s and run the ball down the throat of the defense. Kap could do that. He’s not as accurate as Lamar because he lacks touch, but this is a new league. They’re finally realizing you can do things multiple ways. College might actually be more innovative offensively than the NFL. The option and **** like that can definitely work if you do it every and now and then instead of every play like ARMY and NAVY back in the day.

When it comes to a QB like Kap, I don’t see how the forums can champion Taysom Hill when he’s practically the same player. Taysom is seemingly getting better at throwing in his 30’s, so why couldn’t Kap? What makes him incapable? These opinions of him are rooted more in politics than in football. He kneeled. He protested. He does what he does for the community. It’s documented. Let it be.

I honestly never saw Kap as a Lamar Jackson type talent. I'm not sure if he could be successful in that same offense. Kap's strength as a runner came more from his straight line speed. The RPO was such a new thing to NFL defenses at first that he gashed teams. In time teams started to figure out ways of taking parts of that game away and forced him to try to beat them with the pass. As you pointed out, that was his weakness and eventually cost him his job.

Lamar, on the other hand, has the shiftiness of a RB and can still throw accurately from either in the pocket or on the move. Kap was always more angular, and while more allusive than most QB's, no where near as elusive as Lamar, or for that matter, Deshaun Watson or Kyler Murray.

rezburna 11-16-2019 10:46 AM

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Originally Posted by AsylumGuido (Post 867589)
I honestly never saw Kap as a Lamar Jackson type talent. I'm not sure if he could be successful in that same offense. Kap's strength as a runner came more from his straight line speed. The RPO was such a new thing to NFL defenses at first that he gashed teams. In time teams started to figure out ways of taking parts of that game away and forced him to try to beat them with the pass. As you pointed out, that was his weakness and eventually cost him his job.

Lamar, on the other hand, has the shiftiness of a RB and can still throw accurately from either in the pocket or on the move. Kap was always more angular, and while more allusive than most QB's, no where near as elusive as Lamar, or for that matter, Deshaun Watson or Kyler Murray.

I agree with that assessment of his agility. He definitely isn’t shifty like the guys you mentioned. Maybe a better comparison would be Cam Newton, another QB with accuracy and touch issues who went to a Super Bowl. I guess what I’m saying is if the ingredients are right he can be successful in the league. He’s talented enough to start in the NFL. He always was. No one can convince me he wouldn’t be better than Mason Rudolph or Jeff Driskel.

AsylumGuido 11-16-2019 10:58 AM

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Originally Posted by rezburna (Post 867591)
I agree with that assessment of his agility. He definitely isn’t shifty like the guys you mentioned. Maybe a better comparison would be Cam Newton, another QB with accuracy and touch issues who went to a Super Bowl. I guess what I’m saying is if the ingredients are right he can be successful in the league. He’s talented enough to start in the NFL. He always was. No one can convince me he wouldn’t be better than Mason Rudolph or Jeff Driskel.

I'll agree on Rudolph and Driskel, but Newton also had the build of a middle linebacker. He ran over and through people. Kap certainly can't play that game.

rezburna 11-16-2019 12:01 PM

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Originally Posted by AsylumGuido (Post 867593)
I'll agree on Rudolph and Driskel, but Newton also had the build of a middle linebacker. He ran over and through people. Kap certainly can't play that game.

Kap isn’t exactly small either though.

6’4” 230 lbs.

That’s solid. Just an inch shorter and 15 lbs. lighter than Newton.

Rugby Saint II 11-16-2019 12:23 PM

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Originally Posted by SmashMouth (Post 867583)
Why is a player who's been out of football as long as he has been even being considered as capable to play now?

It's because he changed the narrative about him pouting when he got benched. He is trying to convince people that it is a moral issue and not his sense of morality. He is a cry baby that wasn't that good to begin with. He has done a wonderful job of misrepresenting the facts to suit himself.

He reminds me of a black Trump. Never admit guilt. Keep in the public eye whatever it takes. See. It has nothing to do with color and everything to do with perception and building it around whatever lies best fit your scenario.

AsylumGuido 11-16-2019 12:30 PM

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Originally Posted by rezburna (Post 867597)
Kap isn’t exactly small either though.

6’4” 230 lbs.

That’s solid. Just an inch shorter and 15 lbs. lighter than Newton.

You think he'd last as long as Newton playing the same type of game? Newton is a freak and it has still taken a major toll on his body. I get where you're trying to go, but put Newton and Kap side by side in a pair of shorts and tell me which one you would rather be hit by. :D

rezburna 11-16-2019 12:40 PM

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Originally Posted by AsylumGuido (Post 867604)
You think he'd last as long as Newton playing the same type of game? Newton is a freak and it has still taken a major toll on his body. I get where you're trying to go, but put Newton and Kap side by side in a pair of shorts and tell me which one you would rather be hit by. :D

Kap got few years of wear and tear off his body that Cam didn’t. And you know my story OG, I don’t do no hitting anyway! Lmao.

AsylumGuido 11-16-2019 12:44 PM

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Originally Posted by rezburna (Post 867606)
Kap got few years of wear and tear off his body that Cam didn’t. And you know my story OG, I don’t do no hitting anyway! Lmao.

:rofl:

Gotta keep that pretty going on, right?


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