Observations from the Saints win over the Bucs

neugey · 11-17-2019, 04:55 PM

- Demario Davis was all over the place. He might be a notch above Vilma to be honest.

- Loved TreQuan's basketball-style screen to get Michael Thomas the sideline and an extra 30-some yards. It's not all about catches.

- Better run-blocking up the middle today. Easton made a difference in that regard I think.

- Very glad we managed to close out the game and not let the Bucs turn it into a sweaty one.

K Major · 11-17-2019, 05:02 PM

Originally Posted by neugey

- Loved TreQuan's basketball-style screen to get Michael Thomas the sideline and an extra 30-some yards. It's not all about catches.

Did the Saints draft this guy in the 3rd rd to block or catch passes/TD's?

Tre is either injured, makes mental mistakes or virtually disappears (see Falcons & Bucs) in games. 0 production.

You are being far too kind to this guy. He's underachieved in New Orleans.

shawnkytonk · 11-17-2019, 05:09 PM

Originally Posted by K Major

Did the Saints draft this guy in the 3rd rd to block or catch passes/TD's?

Tre is either injured, makes mental mistakes or virtually disappears (see Falcons & Bucs) in games. 0 production.

You are being far too kind to this guy. He's underachieved in New Orleans.

Agreed. He should be taking advantage of Ginn's lack of ability as a #2.

neugey · 11-17-2019, 05:35 PM

Originally Posted by K Major

Did the Saints draft this guy in the 3rd rd to block or catch passes/TD's?

Tre is either injured, makes mental mistakes or virtually disappears (see Falcons & Bucs) in games. 0 production.

You are being far too kind to this guy. He's underachieved in New Orleans.

I'd also love to see TreQuan get more involved in the passing game and of course it's a concern. Just glad he actually made a play to help the team instead of losing interest out there. It's so hard to know what is going on, the NFL cameras rarely ever give a look at the receivers routes to know what the dilemma with TreQuan is. Hopefully this sophomore slump ends soon.

blackangold · 11-17-2019, 05:57 PM

Originally Posted by neugey

I'd also love to see TreQuan get more involved in the passing game and of course it's a concern. Just glad he actually made a play to help the team instead of losing interest out there. It's so hard to know what is going on, the NFL cameras rarely ever give a look at the receivers routes to know what the dilemma with TreQuan is. Hopefully this sophomore slump ends soon.

He just isn't a good fit for Drew, he is a speedy guy that can get down field. Brees doesn't throw the ball more than 20yds so he isn't of any use. MT is great because he runs a great slant and is physical off the ball, it's perfect for the short passer that drew is.

AsylumGuido · 11-17-2019, 06:02 PM

Originally Posted by blackangold

He just isn't a good fit for Drew, he is a speedy guy that can get down field. Brees doesn't throw the ball more than 20yds so he isn't of any use. MT is great because he runs a great slant and is physical off the ball, it's perfect for the short passer that drew is.

The fact that he has dropped critical passes directly into his hands has to be blamed on Brees as well, right.

spkb25 · 11-17-2019, 06:19 PM

Originally Posted by blackangold

He just isn't a good fit for Drew, he is a speedy guy that can get down field. Brees doesn't throw the ball more than 20yds so he isn't of any use. MT is great because he runs a great slant and is physical off the ball, it's perfect for the short passer that drew is.

You understand our team is built different now, correct? Our game is ball control with the run and short quick passes so we control the clock. We have a defense that can stop teams now. Our philosophy has changed. Nothing is stopping him from being a lance/ willie type rec for us. Maybe he just cant get open

The Dude · 11-17-2019, 06:30 PM

Originally Posted by spkb25

You understand our team is built different now, correct? Our game is ball control with the run and short quick passes so we control the clock. We have a defense that can stop teams now. Our philosophy has changed. Nothing is stopping him from being a lance/ willie type rec for us. Maybe he just cant get open

In a strange way I think Teddy Bridgewater set the tone for how this offense is going to run at this point in Brees career . It forced him to run it that way with Teddy. Who knows how long Payton would have tried to force our offense of 2-3 years ago into place if he hadn’t changed the game plan for Teddy. The loss in Atlanta just solidified it. This is our identity.

spkb25 · 11-17-2019, 06:33 PM

Originally Posted by The Dude

In a strange way I think Teddy Bridgewater set the tone for how this offense is going to run at this point in Brees career . It forced him to run it that way with Teddy. Who knows how long Payton would have tried to force our offense of 2-3 years ago into place if he hadn’t changed the game plan for Teddy. The loss in Atlanta just solidified it. This is our identity.

We definitely need another wide receiver, but SP determined this is who we are. And I think some of it has to do with protecting our oline a bit

blackangold · 11-18-2019, 02:51 PM

Originally Posted by spkb25

You understand our team is built different now, correct? Our game is ball control with the run and short quick passes so we control the clock. We have a defense that can stop teams now. Our philosophy has changed. Nothing is stopping him from being a lance/ willie type rec for us. Maybe he just cant get open

Not sure what any of that has to do with Tre Smith...

Nor did I say Drew throwing short is a bad thing. What point are you trying to argue?

11-17-2019, 04:55 PM	#1
neugey Hu Dat! Join Date: Dec 2004 Posts: 6,834 Blog Entries: 13	Re: Observations from the Saints win over the Bucs - Demario Davis was all over the place. He might be a notch above Vilma to be honest. - Loved TreQuan's basketball-style screen to get Michael Thomas the sideline and an extra 30-some yards. It's not all about catches. - Better run-blocking up the middle today. Easton made a difference in that regard I think. - Very glad we managed to close out the game and not let the Bucs turn it into a sweaty one. Crusader, foreverfan and SmashMouth like this.

11-17-2019, 05:09 PM	#3
shawnkytonk 500th Post Join Date: Aug 2014 Location: Denver>Memphis>Mississippi Posts: 741	Re: Observations from the Saints win over the Bucs Originally Posted by K Major Did the Saints draft this guy in the 3rd rd to block or catch passes/TD's? Tre is either injured, makes mental mistakes or virtually disappears (see Falcons & Bucs) in games. 0 production. You are being far too kind to this guy. He's underachieved in New Orleans. Agreed. He should be taking advantage of Ginn's lack of ability as a #2.

11-17-2019, 05:35 PM	#4
neugey Hu Dat! Join Date: Dec 2004 Posts: 6,834 Blog Entries: 13	Re: Observations from the Saints win over the Bucs Originally Posted by K Major Did the Saints draft this guy in the 3rd rd to block or catch passes/TD's? Tre is either injured, makes mental mistakes or virtually disappears (see Falcons & Bucs) in games. 0 production. You are being far too kind to this guy. He's underachieved in New Orleans. I'd also love to see TreQuan get more involved in the passing game and of course it's a concern. Just glad he actually made a play to help the team instead of losing interest out there. It's so hard to know what is going on, the NFL cameras rarely ever give a look at the receivers routes to know what the dilemma with TreQuan is. Hopefully this sophomore slump ends soon. Crusader and shawnkytonk like this.

11-17-2019, 05:57 PM	#5
blackangold 1000 Posts + Join Date: Aug 2011 Posts: 3,422	Re: Observations from the Saints win over the Bucs Originally Posted by neugey I'd also love to see TreQuan get more involved in the passing game and of course it's a concern. Just glad he actually made a play to help the team instead of losing interest out there. It's so hard to know what is going on, the NFL cameras rarely ever give a look at the receivers routes to know what the dilemma with TreQuan is. Hopefully this sophomore slump ends soon. He just isn't a good fit for Drew, he is a speedy guy that can get down field. Brees doesn't throw the ball more than 20yds so he isn't of any use. MT is great because he runs a great slant and is physical off the ball, it's perfect for the short passer that drew is.

11-17-2019, 06:02 PM	#6
AsylumGuido 10000 POST CLUB Join Date: Sep 2007 Location: Bossier City, LA Posts: 26,574	Re: Observations from the Saints win over the Bucs Originally Posted by blackangold He just isn't a good fit for Drew, he is a speedy guy that can get down field. Brees doesn't throw the ball more than 20yds so he isn't of any use. MT is great because he runs a great slant and is physical off the ball, it's perfect for the short passer that drew is. The fact that he has dropped critical passes directly into his hands has to be blamed on Brees as well, right.

11-17-2019, 05:02 PM	#2
K Major Site Donor 2019 Join Date: Jan 2013 Location: Bedford, TX Posts: 24,797 Blog Entries: 3	Re: Observations from the Saints win over the Bucs Originally Posted by neugey - Loved TreQuan's basketball-style screen to get Michael Thomas the sideline and an extra 30-some yards. It's not all about catches. Did the Saints draft this guy in the 3rd rd to block or catch passes/TD's? Tre is either injured, makes mental mistakes or virtually disappears (see Falcons & Bucs) in games. 0 production. You are being far too kind to this guy. He's underachieved in New Orleans. Barry from MS, SmashMouth, dizzle88 and 3 others like this.

11-17-2019, 06:19 PM	#7
spkb25 10000 POST CLUB Join Date: Aug 2004 Location: Baltimore, MD Posts: 13,123	Re: Observations from the Saints win over the Bucs Originally Posted by blackangold He just isn't a good fit for Drew, he is a speedy guy that can get down field. Brees doesn't throw the ball more than 20yds so he isn't of any use. MT is great because he runs a great slant and is physical off the ball, it's perfect for the short passer that drew is. You understand our team is built different now, correct? Our game is ball control with the run and short quick passes so we control the clock. We have a defense that can stop teams now. Our philosophy has changed. Nothing is stopping him from being a lance/ willie type rec for us. Maybe he just cant get open

11-17-2019, 06:30 PM	#8
The Dude 5000 POSTS! + Join Date: Jul 2011 Posts: 9,055	Re: Observations from the Saints win over the Bucs Originally Posted by spkb25 You understand our team is built different now, correct? Our game is ball control with the run and short quick passes so we control the clock. We have a defense that can stop teams now. Our philosophy has changed. Nothing is stopping him from being a lance/ willie type rec for us. Maybe he just cant get open In a strange way I think Teddy Bridgewater set the tone for how this offense is going to run at this point in Brees career . It forced him to run it that way with Teddy. Who knows how long Payton would have tried to force our offense of 2-3 years ago into place if he hadn’t changed the game plan for Teddy. The loss in Atlanta just solidified it. This is our identity.
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11-17-2019, 06:33 PM	#9
spkb25 10000 POST CLUB Join Date: Aug 2004 Location: Baltimore, MD Posts: 13,123	Re: Observations from the Saints win over the Bucs Originally Posted by The Dude In a strange way I think Teddy Bridgewater set the tone for how this offense is going to run at this point in Brees career . It forced him to run it that way with Teddy. Who knows how long Payton would have tried to force our offense of 2-3 years ago into place if he hadn’t changed the game plan for Teddy. The loss in Atlanta just solidified it. This is our identity. We definitely need another wide receiver, but SP determined this is who we are. And I think some of it has to do with protecting our oline a bit

11-18-2019, 02:51 PM	#10
blackangold 1000 Posts + Join Date: Aug 2011 Posts: 3,422	Re: Observations from the Saints win over the Bucs Originally Posted by spkb25 You understand our team is built different now, correct? Our game is ball control with the run and short quick passes so we control the clock. We have a defense that can stop teams now. Our philosophy has changed. Nothing is stopping him from being a lance/ willie type rec for us. Maybe he just cant get open Not sure what any of that has to do with Tre Smith... Nor did I say Drew throwing short is a bad thing. What point are you trying to argue?

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