Observations from the Saints win over the Bucs

cmike · 11-18-2019, 11:43 AM

Originally Posted by AsylumGuido

Tampa Bay rushed the ball eight times for 36 yards. That's a very respectable 4.5 yards per carry. If they would have rushed the ball seven more times they would have won the game. They stupidly abandoned the run.

Right?

No.
Winston lead them in rushing with 23 yds. Most of that came on one play where we were caught in man coverage
and he was running for his life.

Barry from MS · 11-18-2019, 11:50 AM

1. Apple moving here from the Gnats was the best thing for him and us. He's showing why he was highly touted.
2. Alonzo was such a steal of a trade. He's growing into the system quickly and it shows.
3. I have no prob with MT getting majority of looks...he just makes 1st downs. Drew has shown what happens when you double cover him by hitting big plays to other receivers.
4. DLine showed up. Would like to see improvement from Davonport but TRex has been playing well.
5. OLine showed up. Easton is a better fit than Clapp at LG.
6. Good to see Williams Pick 6 Winston. DBs thrive off of confidence (see Apple), so I'm expecting our young FS to play well down the stretch.
7. 3rd and greater than 7 should be easier to stop than 3rd and 2 or less. How come I'm more confident with the D stopping 3rd and 1 but highly sceptical with 3rd and 12?

cmike · 11-18-2019, 11:52 AM

36 games and counting not allowing a 100yd RUSHER.

cmike · 11-18-2019, 11:55 AM

Barry, agree with all. The long 3rd down conversions is what keep game somewhat close.

K Major · 11-18-2019, 11:56 AM

Saints are 4-1 on the road thus far.

That's what Super Bowl contending teams do.

Budsdrinker · 11-18-2019, 12:09 PM

Originally Posted by K Major

Any one catch Sean Payton on the sideline sitting next to Alvin Kamara chopping it up on his playboard talking X's and O's? I don't think I've ever seen coach do that before.

Chess player with a killer instinct/attitude. 2009 type fire.

Yes, and after the game one of the reporters said it was due to Josh Hill being
out of the game with a concussion. That Payton and Kamara were going over plays that they could still run with Hill being out which to me was interesting.
I would assume he would be sitting with Taysom or someone who would fill in for Josh not Kamara.

K Major · 11-18-2019, 12:14 PM

Originally Posted by Budsdrinker

Yes, and after the game one of the reporters said it was due to Josh Hill being
out of the game with a concussion. That Payton and Kamara were going over plays that they could still run with Hill being out which to me was interesting.
I would assume he would be sitting with Taysom or someone who would fill in for Josh not Kamara.

Ok.

Wow, missed the injury to Josh. Hope he's ok. He's very important to what we do offensively.

AsylumGuido · 11-18-2019, 12:26 PM

Originally Posted by cmike

No.
Winston lead them in rushing with 23 yds. Most of that came on one play where we were caught in man coverage
and he was running for his life.

That was sarcasm, cmike. It was directed to those that claimed the Saints lost last week because they "abandoned the run" while the running game was working. They ignored the fact that a third of the yards gained were on two trick plays with Taysom and Ginn carrying the ball. The Bucs were forced to give up on the run for the exact same reasons as the Saints last week versus the Falcons.

jeanpierre · 11-18-2019, 01:51 PM

vpheughan · 11-18-2019, 02:20 PM

Originally Posted by K Major

Any one catch Sean Payton on the sideline sitting next to Alvin Kamara chopping it up on his playboard talking X's and O's? I don't think I've ever seen coach do that before.

Chess player with a killer instinct/attitude. 2009 type fire.

No, I was enthralled watching Ozigbo not carry the ball for a whopping ZERO yards against the Colts. Those ZERO yards forced the Jaguars to "abandon the run"

11-18-2019, 11:43 AM	#61
cmike 1000 Posts + Join Date: Oct 2010 Location: Gulfport Posts: 1,379	Re: Observations from the Saints win over the Bucs Originally Posted by AsylumGuido Tampa Bay rushed the ball eight times for 36 yards. That's a very respectable 4.5 yards per carry. If they would have rushed the ball seven more times they would have won the game. They stupidly abandoned the run. Right? No. Winston lead them in rushing with 23 yds. Most of that came on one play where we were caught in man coverage and he was running for his life.
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Barry from MS Site Donor 2014 Join Date: May 2007 Location: TEMPO VC Okefenokee Swamp Posts: 1,985 Blog Entries: 2	Re: Observations from the Saints win over the Bucs 1. Apple moving here from the Gnats was the best thing for him and us. He's showing why he was highly touted. 2. Alonzo was such a steal of a trade. He's growing into the system quickly and it shows. 3. I have no prob with MT getting majority of looks...he just makes 1st downs. Drew has shown what happens when you double cover him by hitting big plays to other receivers. 4. DLine showed up. Would like to see improvement from Davonport but TRex has been playing well. 5. OLine showed up. Easton is a better fit than Clapp at LG. 6. Good to see Williams Pick 6 Winston. DBs thrive off of confidence (see Apple), so I'm expecting our young FS to play well down the stretch. 7. 3rd and greater than 7 should be easier to stop than 3rd and 2 or less. How come I'm more confident with the D stopping 3rd and 1 but highly sceptical with 3rd and 12? Crusader, SmashMouth, cmike and 3 others like this.
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cmike 1000 Posts + Join Date: Oct 2010 Location: Gulfport Posts: 1,379	Re: Observations from the Saints win over the Bucs 36 games and counting not allowing a 100yd RUSHER.

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cmike 1000 Posts + Join Date: Oct 2010 Location: Gulfport Posts: 1,379	Re: Observations from the Saints win over the Bucs Barry, agree with all. The long 3rd down conversions is what keep game somewhat close.

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K Major Site Donor 2019 Join Date: Jan 2013 Location: Bedford, TX Posts: 24,068 Blog Entries: 3	Re: Observations from the Saints win over the Bucs Saints are 4-1 on the road thus far. That's what Super Bowl contending teams do. SmashMouth and Rugby Saint II like this.

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Budsdrinker A Cajun Transforming TX Join Date: Jul 2007 Location: The Woodlands, Texas Posts: 2,787	Re: Observations from the Saints win over the Bucs Originally Posted by K Major Any one catch Sean Payton on the sideline sitting next to Alvin Kamara chopping it up on his playboard talking X's and O's? I don't think I've ever seen coach do that before. Chess player with a killer instinct/attitude. 2009 type fire. Yes, and after the game one of the reporters said it was due to Josh Hill being out of the game with a concussion. That Payton and Kamara were going over plays that they could still run with Hill being out which to me was interesting. I would assume he would be sitting with Taysom or someone who would fill in for Josh not Kamara. ChrisXVI and K Major like this.

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K Major Site Donor 2019 Join Date: Jan 2013 Location: Bedford, TX Posts: 24,068 Blog Entries: 3	Re: Observations from the Saints win over the Bucs Originally Posted by Budsdrinker Yes, and after the game one of the reporters said it was due to Josh Hill being out of the game with a concussion. That Payton and Kamara were going over plays that they could still run with Hill being out which to me was interesting. I would assume he would be sitting with Taysom or someone who would fill in for Josh not Kamara. Ok. Wow, missed the injury to Josh. Hope he's ok. He's very important to what we do offensively.

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AsylumGuido 10000 POST CLUB Join Date: Sep 2007 Location: Bossier City, LA Posts: 24,395	Re: Observations from the Saints win over the Bucs Originally Posted by cmike No. Winston lead them in rushing with 23 yds. Most of that came on one play where we were caught in man coverage and he was running for his life. That was sarcasm, cmike. It was directed to those that claimed the Saints lost last week because they "abandoned the run" while the running game was working. They ignored the fact that a third of the yards gained were on two trick plays with Taysom and Ginn carrying the ball. The Bucs were forced to give up on the run for the exact same reasons as the Saints last week versus the Falcons. cmike likes this.

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vpheughan 1000 Posts + Join Date: Aug 2007 Posts: 4,500	Re: Observations from the Saints win over the Bucs Originally Posted by K Major Any one catch Sean Payton on the sideline sitting next to Alvin Kamara chopping it up on his playboard talking X's and O's? I don't think I've ever seen coach do that before. Chess player with a killer instinct/attitude. 2009 type fire. No, I was enthralled watching Ozigbo not carry the ball for a whopping ZERO yards against the Colts. Those ZERO yards forced the Jaguars to "abandon the run" K Major likes this.
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