USA Today/Saints Wire: Saints snap counts, Week 11: Was Marcus Davenport demoted?

Barry from MS · 11-19-2019, 08:12 AM

His 1st step is usually slow...he who hesitates is lost. The only time I've seen him quick is on 3rd & really long where everybody knows it's a pass.

Teams have run to his side on passing downs or the QB escapes for big runs on his side...recent example was the 23 yd by Winston. He's pushed the pocket but loses contain which has burned us.

He needs more film work. He needs to study more.

K Major · 11-19-2019, 08:48 AM

Originally Posted by dizzle88

Davenport is invisible near enough every game day, yet fans constantly give him a free pass. As soon as Trey comes in, he immediately beats the guy Davenport was against for a near sack.

Maxx Crosby of the Raiders, a 4th round pick this year is only 1 sack shy of Davenports total in 2 years.

When a guy we traded a first round pick or two to get, is getting less snaps and getting outplayed by a 6th rounder in T-rex, something is definitely wrong.

There is an article out from NOLA.com and Sean Payton provides good perspective on MD's minimal snap count on Sunday's game vs Tampa.

AsylumGuido · 11-19-2019, 09:13 AM

Originally Posted by K Major

There is an article out from NOLA.com and Sean Payton provides good perspective on MD's minimal snap count on Sunday's game vs Tampa.

Why the Saints defensive snap counts looked different than usual against Buccaneers

AsylumGuido · 11-19-2019, 09:15 AM

Davenport and Hendrickson play different roles in the defensive scheme.

st thomas · 11-19-2019, 09:28 AM

Originally Posted by AsylumGuido

Why the Saints defensive snap counts looked different than usual against Buccaneers

Thanks AG before people go off the deep end on Davenport .

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K Major · 11-19-2019, 09:50 AM

Originally Posted by st thomas

Thanks AG before people go off the deep end on Davenport .

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Marcus D could turn into Bruce Smith/Julius Peppers and some fans would find a reason to link what the Saints gave up to get him

.

I trust the Saints scouting dept/front office brass on drafting and developing talent. They are "hitting" a lot more than missing over the last 3 years.

David O \ Vonn Bell
AK
Chauncey G Johnson \ Erik "the real deal" McCoy (impact players as ROOKIES)
Davenport

Trust and believe.

st thomas · 11-19-2019, 10:08 AM

Originally Posted by K Major

Marcus D could turn into Bruce Smith/Julius Peppers and some fans would find a reason to link what the Saints gave up to get him .

I trust the Saints scouting dept/front office brass on drafting and developing talent. They are "hitting" a lot more than missing over the last 3 years.

David O \ Vonn Bell
AK
Chauncey G Johnson \ Erik "the real deal" McCoy (impact players as ROOKIES)
Davenport

Trust and believe.

We were all in on dav early he we’re coming thru and u don’t hear his name a couple games and he’s trash bin material .

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jeanpierre · 11-19-2019, 10:10 AM

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jeanpierre · 11-19-2019, 10:17 AM

Don't care how Payton spins it, you spent that much draft capital on a guy that's not on the field as much as Cam Jordan (Cam cost one first round pick) then Payton's draft management should be questioned...

Davenport's responsibility is to be in the best shape he can be, be fully prepared in film study and game-specific scheme for that week, and play 100% to his abilities...

The fact that Payton stupidly overspent on the draft pick is not on Davenport, nor should it be, it's on Payton...

That said, I'd like to see more of the Davenport that flashed earlier in the season, but he's only had one game where he saw 50+ snaps - one; and that has to be concerning for all who love the Saints...

Budsdrinker · 11-19-2019, 02:49 PM

Originally Posted by Barry from MS

His 1st step is usually slow...he who hesitates is lost. The only time I've seen him quick is on 3rd & really long where everybody knows it's a pass.

Teams have run to his side on passing downs or the QB escapes for big runs on his side...recent example was the 23 yd by Winston. He's pushed the pocket but loses contain which has burned us.

He needs more film work. He needs to study more.

Watch that play again. I believe it was a stunt where Davenport came from the end to the middle and Rankins went outside and he didn't go wide enough. Pretty sure this is the same play.

11-19-2019, 08:12 AM	#11
Barry from MS Site Donor 2014 Join Date: May 2007 Location: TEMPO VC Okefenokee Swamp Posts: 1,985 Blog Entries: 2	Re: USA Today/Saints Wire: Saints snap counts, Week 11: Was Marcus Davenport demoted? His 1st step is usually slow...he who hesitates is lost. The only time I've seen him quick is on 3rd & really long where everybody knows it's a pass. Teams have run to his side on passing downs or the QB escapes for big runs on his side...recent example was the 23 yd by Winston. He's pushed the pocket but loses contain which has burned us. He needs more film work. He needs to study more. jeanpierre and dizzle88 like this.

11-19-2019, 08:48 AM	#12
K Major Site Donor 2019 Join Date: Jan 2013 Location: Bedford, TX Posts: 24,622 Blog Entries: 3	Re: USA Today/Saints Wire: Saints snap counts, Week 11: Was Marcus Davenport demoted? Originally Posted by dizzle88 Davenport is invisible near enough every game day, yet fans constantly give him a free pass. As soon as Trey comes in, he immediately beats the guy Davenport was against for a near sack. Maxx Crosby of the Raiders, a 4th round pick this year is only 1 sack shy of Davenports total in 2 years. When a guy we traded a first round pick or two to get, is getting less snaps and getting outplayed by a 6th rounder in T-rex, something is definitely wrong. There is an article out from NOLA.com and Sean Payton provides good perspective on MD's minimal snap count on Sunday's game vs Tampa. AsylumGuido likes this.

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AsylumGuido 10000 POST CLUB Join Date: Sep 2007 Location: Bossier City, LA Posts: 26,274	Re: USA Today/Saints Wire: Saints snap counts, Week 11: Was Marcus Davenport demoted? Originally Posted by K Major There is an article out from NOLA.com and Sean Payton provides good perspective on MD's minimal snap count on Sunday's game vs Tampa. Why the Saints defensive snap counts looked different than usual against Buccaneers st thomas likes this.

11-19-2019, 09:15 AM	#14
AsylumGuido 10000 POST CLUB Join Date: Sep 2007 Location: Bossier City, LA Posts: 26,274	Re: USA Today/Saints Wire: Saints snap counts, Week 11: Was Marcus Davenport demoted? Davenport and Hendrickson play different roles in the defensive scheme. Crusader likes this.

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st thomas Site Donor 2018 Join Date: Dec 2009 Location: lafayette Posts: 7,753	Re: USA Today/Saints Wire: Saints snap counts, Week 11: Was Marcus Davenport demoted? Originally Posted by AsylumGuido Why the Saints defensive snap counts looked different than usual against Buccaneers Thanks AG before people go off the deep end on Davenport . Sent from my iPhone using Tapatalk Crusader likes this.

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K Major Site Donor 2019 Join Date: Jan 2013 Location: Bedford, TX Posts: 24,622 Blog Entries: 3	Re: USA Today/Saints Wire: Saints snap counts, Week 11: Was Marcus Davenport demoted? Originally Posted by st thomas Thanks AG before people go off the deep end on Davenport . Sent from my iPhone using Tapatalk Marcus D could turn into Bruce Smith/Julius Peppers and some fans would find a reason to link what the Saints gave up to get him . I trust the Saints scouting dept/front office brass on drafting and developing talent. They are "hitting" a lot more than missing over the last 3 years. David O \ Vonn Bell AK Chauncey G Johnson \ Erik "the real deal" McCoy (impact players as ROOKIES) Davenport Trust and believe. AsylumGuido and st thomas like this.

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st thomas Site Donor 2018 Join Date: Dec 2009 Location: lafayette Posts: 7,753	Re: USA Today/Saints Wire: Saints snap counts, Week 11: Was Marcus Davenport demoted? Originally Posted by K Major Marcus D could turn into Bruce Smith/Julius Peppers and some fans would find a reason to link what the Saints gave up to get him . I trust the Saints scouting dept/front office brass on drafting and developing talent. They are "hitting" a lot more than missing over the last 3 years. David O \ Vonn Bell AK Chauncey G Johnson \ Erik "the real deal" McCoy (impact players as ROOKIES) Davenport Trust and believe. We were all in on dav early he we’re coming thru and u don’t hear his name a couple games and he’s trash bin material . Sent from my iPhone using Tapatalk

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jeanpierre Site Donor 2018 Join Date: Mar 2008 Location: Thibodaux Posts: 43,543 Blog Entries: 39	Re: USA Today/Saints Wire: Saints snap counts, Week 11: Was Marcus Davenport demoted? Twitter woody likes this.

11-19-2019, 10:17 AM	#19
jeanpierre Site Donor 2018 Join Date: Mar 2008 Location: Thibodaux Posts: 43,543 Blog Entries: 39	Re: USA Today/Saints Wire: Saints snap counts, Week 11: Was Marcus Davenport demoted? Don't care how Payton spins it, you spent that much draft capital on a guy that's not on the field as much as Cam Jordan (Cam cost one first round pick) then Payton's draft management should be questioned... Davenport's responsibility is to be in the best shape he can be, be fully prepared in film study and game-specific scheme for that week, and play 100% to his abilities... The fact that Payton stupidly overspent on the draft pick is not on Davenport, nor should it be, it's on Payton... That said, I'd like to see more of the Davenport that flashed earlier in the season, but he's only had one game where he saw 50+ snaps - one; and that has to be concerning for all who love the Saints...
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11-19-2019, 02:49 PM	#20
Budsdrinker A Cajun Transforming TX Join Date: Jul 2007 Location: The Woodlands, Texas Posts: 2,787	Re: USA Today/Saints Wire: Saints snap counts, Week 11: Was Marcus Davenport demoted? Originally Posted by Barry from MS His 1st step is usually slow...he who hesitates is lost. The only time I've seen him quick is on 3rd & really long where everybody knows it's a pass. Teams have run to his side on passing downs or the QB escapes for big runs on his side...recent example was the 23 yd by Winston. He's pushed the pocket but loses contain which has burned us. He needs more film work. He needs to study more. Watch that play again. I believe it was a stunt where Davenport came from the end to the middle and Rankins went outside and he didn't go wide enough. Pretty sure this is the same play.