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vpheughan 11-29-2019 02:18 PM

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Originally Posted by A.8Manning (Post 869871)
whats clear is.. people are idiots if they cant figure out its staged, after those 3 onside kicks

SPEAKING OF IDIOTS

lol you dont know the half of it.
has nothing to do with Roger.

Bucs will win division


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THE BUCS SPELLED S A I N T S

K Major 11-29-2019 02:38 PM

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Saints had 41 pressures, a few TFL (tackle for losses) & damn near 10 sacks yet the Failures had no offensive holding calls?

That is mind boggling.

Vrillon82 11-29-2019 03:16 PM

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Originally Posted by K Major (Post 869964)
Saints had 41 pressures, a few TFL (tackle for losses) & damn near 10 sacks yet the Failures had no offensive holding calls?

That is mind boggling.

Its not as baffling, they could be poorly coached where they not actually grabbing to some extent, hence why the Oline is giving up so many sacks. Their line looks really bad at times like they dont want to engage.

Audiotom 11-29-2019 07:40 PM

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They were holding
Just not getting called on it

Watch davenport on almost any play
He is learning to fight through the holds

darksoul35 11-29-2019 09:00 PM

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Im not saying we did not deserve those PI calls but there is no way that the Falcons and every single one of our other opponents play a flawless damn near penalty free game.

Vrillon82 11-29-2019 09:56 PM

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Originally Posted by darksoul35 (Post 869991)
Im not saying we did not deserve those PI calls but there is no way that the Falcons and every single one of our other opponents play a flawless damn near penalty free game.

They dont, wait until we play San Fran.

if somehow San Fran has like 10 penalties for 100 yards and we have like 3, their will be a motive for it.

I honestly believe they dont want us on the road in January, Saints been ripping teams better on the road than in the dome. But god forbid if we go to GB, the most beneficial team this year (#1) in penalties that have helped them.

Barry from MS 11-29-2019 11:25 PM

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Originally Posted by Vrillon82 (Post 869996)
They dont, wait until we play San Fran.

if somehow San Fran has like 10 penalties for 100 yards and we have like 3, their will be a motive for it.

The motive if that happens: Y'all see? We're not biased. Now shut up and obey or we'll take more of your draft picks.

st thomas 11-30-2019 08:59 AM

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It was clear again to me when Tuttle picked Ryan’s asre wipes pass at the line on scrimmage and oil field drilled his head in the turf. And oh yes there’s the flag no where near highlight reel play blocking in the back a mile behind the play.thats that confirms they can control a game thru out.


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vpheughan 11-30-2019 09:51 AM

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It was clear again to me when Tuttle picked Ryan’s asre wipes pass at the line on scrimmage and oil field drilled his head in the turf. And oh yes there’s the flag no where near highlight reel play blocking in the back a mile behind the play.thats that confirms they can control a game thru out.


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As much as I dislike the officiating, this call was correct.
The Cam Jordan push of Ryan in the back is almost simultaneous with Tuttle's stiff arm.Attachment 13325

st thomas 11-30-2019 09:54 AM

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Originally Posted by vpheughan (Post 870020)
As much as I dislike the officiating, this call was correct.

The Cam Jordan push of Ryan in the back is almost simultaneous with Tuttle's stiff arm.Attachment 13325



Just didn’t think it was cam at all but it’s just coincidental he had his hands on his back. I take that


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saintfan 11-30-2019 11:51 AM

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Originally Posted by vpheughan (Post 870020)
As much as I dislike the officiating, this call was correct.
The Cam Jordan push of Ryan in the back is almost simultaneous with Tuttle's stiff arm.Attachment 13325

For me it isn't always that they just make things up and throw the flag, it is the disparity between the flags WE get versus the other team NOT getting flagged for doing very clear stuff we can all see. We consistently get behind the chains because of some insignificant BS call while the other team consistently benefits from some insignificant BS call against our defense that gives them another set of downs.

The numbers show it. Its not even up for debate. The only question, I suppose, is whether or not it is intentional. Personally I see what the courts would call a pattern of behavior that spans years and counting. The refs aren't idiots. They are actually very good at what they do. And, in my opinion, they're doing exactly what Roger is telling them to do.

The Dude 11-30-2019 03:55 PM

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Originally Posted by saintfan (Post 870035)
For me it isn't always that they just make things up and throw the flag, it is the disparity between the flags WE get versus the other team NOT getting flagged for doing very clear stuff we can all see. We consistently get behind the chains because of some insignificant BS call while the other team consistently benefits from some insignificant BS call against our defense that gives them another set of downs.

The numbers show it. Its not even up for debate. The only question, I suppose, is whether or not it is intentional. Personally I see what the courts would call a pattern of behavior that spans years and counting. The refs aren't idiots. They are actually very good at what they do. And, in my opinion, they're doing exactly what Roger is telling them to do.

Even the announcers commented that probably the only reason Payton threw the challenge flag on that PI in Kamara was to see what would happen because the Panthers got one reversed on a call that was virtually identical last week. He just wanted to make a point and show the inconsistency in some of these calls.

saintfan 11-30-2019 04:47 PM

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Even the announcers commented that probably the only reason Payton threw the challenge flag on that PI in Kamara was to see what would happen because the Panthers got one reversed on a call that was virtually identical last week. He just wanted to make a point and show the inconsistency in some of these calls.

Sean KNEW he had the league on that one, and all he was doing was proving it to anyone interested in knowing the truth.

Vrillon82 12-01-2019 02:12 PM

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I find the interesting thing about

https://www.nflpenalties.com/team/ne...ints?year=2019

Their is no consistency, however one has to watch the games to really fully understand whats going on. Although aside from the Falcons, seems they less flag happy against bad teams.

Its interesting anytime I see GB, Pitt, Minn, and Cinci round up the top 4 of this chart, its been common for a few seasons, we know officiating has big influence in NFC North matchups, why GB sets at 8-3 when they should not be no where near that record.

Im thinking some of the officiating problems is combination of betting and bias to wanting certain teams in a division to win it. Like Falcons getting so many penalties this year and few called against them sounds like they trying to satisfy bookies for big money in upsets as that team has the potential to do such after starting off so bad. Cinci as well because its hard to go 0-16 and some point the officiating is going to do enough for them to win, big money for bettors on Cinci.

One thing becoming common now is I dread facing any team out of California in fear of officiating controlling the outcome.

K Major 12-03-2019 09:16 AM

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Bump ...

https://saintswire.usatoday.com/2019...l-officiating/

Just my opinion here but the Saints will have to leave no doubt on Sunday and take the game AWAY from refs.

Did you notice how very little the Failures were flagged on Thanksgiving day ... even with all of those pressures and sacks we had ??

Boy o boy.

cmike 12-03-2019 10:02 AM

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Originally Posted by K Major (Post 870309)
Bump ...

https://saintswire.usatoday.com/2019...l-officiating/

Just my opinion here but the Saints will have to leave no doubt on Sunday and take the game AWAY from refs.

Did you notice how very little the Failures were flagged on Thanksgiving day ... even with all of those pressures and sacks we had ??

Boy o boy.

The last 3 seasons Alvin has been either concussed or hit helmet to helmet against Falcons. 0 flags. Happened again Thursday.


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