Is It Clear?

saintfan · 11-24-2019, 04:40 PM

Although my recent rhetoric would indicate otherwise, I do not like to blame the refs. You have to overcome bad calls and in general all teams have to do it.

But today, as with recent games, it is ever clear to me that the Saints not only have to beat the team they're playing, they also have to overcome what, to me, is a clear bias by the league to manipulate the outcome of the games.

We simply have to play cleaner than the other team. I hate that Roger has done this to the NFL. I really do. It puts extra pressure on us. And we're not the only team suffering from a league bias.

Good win today. Nice job by the entire organization. Way to keep your heads up in an environment that is clearly stacked against you.

RockyMountainSaint · 11-24-2019, 05:03 PM

It was blatant and it is undeniable.

3-25 Panthers
12-123 Saints
Hands to the face can be called on every play.
If you want to manipulate the outcome? Call that in key spots.
The PI in their last drive was an obvious : "F you. We can do what we want and you are powerless."
They will screw us in the playoffs.
That, they are telegraphing.

GeauxForMore · 11-24-2019, 05:12 PM

No person on the planet can tell me the Panthers didn't have more than 3 penalties the entire game. I never blame the refs, but it so damn clear they are against us, Stevie Wonder can see it.

Btw just for the comment Saints got flagged 15 yards...

darksoul35 · 11-24-2019, 05:14 PM

It was horrible. Im glad we pulled it out.

neugey · 11-24-2019, 05:15 PM

The reviewable PI rule has been an absolute s**tshow, not just towards us but in so many other games during the season. It was the wrong solution to be sure, and I knew it all along. They really need to scrap it this off-season.

We got hosed a fair amount in this game, but really the offensive playcalling got really wonky at key times in the second half and that was was what kept Carolina in the game in the first place. Should have played it smarter and put the game away.

blackangold · 11-24-2019, 05:45 PM

The play calling on both sides of the ball was bad. Not covering cmc like a blanket just drives me crazy... Payton called himself out in the post game presser for play calling.

cmike · 11-24-2019, 06:16 PM

Game turned after the penalty on Cam.

Srgt. Hulka · 11-24-2019, 07:05 PM

Originally Posted by saintfan

Although my recent rhetoric would indicate otherwise, I do not like to blame the refs. You have to overcome bad calls and in general all teams have to do it.

But today, as with recent games, it is ever clear to me that the Saints not only have to beat the team they're playing, they also have to overcome what, to me, is a clear bias by the league to manipulate the outcome of the games.

We simply have to play cleaner than the other team. I hate that Roger has done this to the NFL. I really do. It puts extra pressure on us. And we're not the only team suffering from a league bias.

Good win today. Nice job by the entire organization. Way to keep your heads up in an environment that is clearly stacked against you.

What little I’ve been on here this season, I’ve been saying it all season.
But you,Saintfan, has been saying longer and louder than anybody.
Roger Goodell will NOT let us win another Super Bowl...period.

ChrisXVI · 11-24-2019, 07:22 PM

Yeah I mean, the thing that sucks though is what’s the point of even caring week in and week out if the league wants to screw us? They won’t let us even get to the Super Bowl... let alone win one.

Vrillon82 · 11-24-2019, 07:27 PM

At this point its only Goodells fault for not putting a stop to Al Riveron, why Sean Payton was talking about the need for a commitee of ppl on replay, theirs no trust in Riveron and his band of misfits.

11-24-2019, 04:40 PM	#1
saintfan Donated Plasma Join Date: Jul 2002 Location: San Francisco, CA Posts: 18,556 Blog Entries: 5	Is It Clear? Although my recent rhetoric would indicate otherwise, I do not like to blame the refs. You have to overcome bad calls and in general all teams have to do it. But today, as with recent games, it is ever clear to me that the Saints not only have to beat the team they're playing, they also have to overcome what, to me, is a clear bias by the league to manipulate the outcome of the games. We simply have to play cleaner than the other team. I hate that Roger has done this to the NFL. I really do. It puts extra pressure on us. And we're not the only team suffering from a league bias. Good win today. Nice job by the entire organization. Way to keep your heads up in an environment that is clearly stacked against you. Halo, iceshack149, jnormand and 12 others like this.
	C'mon Man...

11-24-2019, 05:03 PM	#2
RockyMountainSaint Mmm That Smell! Join Date: Oct 1998 Location: Metairie Terrace Posts: 3,073	Re: Is It Clear? It was blatant and it is undeniable. 3-25 Panthers 12-123 Saints Hands to the face can be called on every play. If you want to manipulate the outcome? Call that in key spots. The PI in their last drive was an obvious : "F you. We can do what we want and you are powerless." They will screw us in the playoffs. That, they are telegraphing. saintfan, iceshack149, neugey and 6 others like this.

11-24-2019, 05:12 PM	#3
GeauxForMore 500th Post Join Date: Dec 2010 Location: Panama City, FL Posts: 589	Re: Is It Clear? No person on the planet can tell me the Panthers didn't have more than 3 penalties the entire game. I never blame the refs, but it so damn clear they are against us, Stevie Wonder can see it. Btw just for the comment Saints got flagged 15 yards... RockyMountainSaint, neugey and skymike like this.

11-24-2019, 05:14 PM	#4
darksoul35 1000 Posts + Join Date: Sep 2012 Posts: 1,041	Re: Is It Clear? It was horrible. Im glad we pulled it out. Rugby Saint II likes this.
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11-24-2019, 05:15 PM	#5
neugey Hu Dat! Join Date: Dec 2004 Posts: 6,715 Blog Entries: 13	Re: Is It Clear? The reviewable PI rule has been an absolute s**tshow, not just towards us but in so many other games during the season. It was the wrong solution to be sure, and I knew it all along. They really need to scrap it this off-season. We got hosed a fair amount in this game, but really the offensive playcalling got really wonky at key times in the second half and that was was what kept Carolina in the game in the first place. Should have played it smarter and put the game away.

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11-24-2019, 05:45 PM	#6
blackangold 1000 Posts + Join Date: Aug 2011 Posts: 3,422	Re: Is It Clear? The play calling on both sides of the ball was bad. Not covering cmc like a blanket just drives me crazy... Payton called himself out in the post game presser for play calling.

11-24-2019, 06:16 PM	#7
cmike 1000 Posts + Join Date: Oct 2010 Location: Gulfport Posts: 1,430	Re: Is It Clear? Game turned after the penalty on Cam. SaintsBro likes this.

11-24-2019, 07:05 PM	#8
Srgt. Hulka 1000 Posts + Join Date: Dec 2009 Location: Shreveport, LA Posts: 4,417	Re: Is It Clear? Originally Posted by saintfan Although my recent rhetoric would indicate otherwise, I do not like to blame the refs. You have to overcome bad calls and in general all teams have to do it. But today, as with recent games, it is ever clear to me that the Saints not only have to beat the team they're playing, they also have to overcome what, to me, is a clear bias by the league to manipulate the outcome of the games. We simply have to play cleaner than the other team. I hate that Roger has done this to the NFL. I really do. It puts extra pressure on us. And we're not the only team suffering from a league bias. Good win today. Nice job by the entire organization. Way to keep your heads up in an environment that is clearly stacked against you. What little I’ve been on here this season, I’ve been saying it all season. But you,Saintfan, has been saying longer and louder than anybody. Roger Goodell will NOT let us win another Super Bowl...period. saintfan, RaginCajun83, Rugby Saint II and 1 others like this.

11-24-2019, 07:22 PM	#9
ChrisXVI 10000 POST CLUB Join Date: Aug 2011 Location: Madison, WI Posts: 11,482	Re: Is It Clear? Yeah I mean, the thing that sucks though is what’s the point of even caring week in and week out if the league wants to screw us? They won’t let us even get to the Super Bowl... let alone win one.

11-24-2019, 07:27 PM	#10
Vrillon82 1000 Posts + Join Date: Aug 2012 Posts: 1,127	Re: Is It Clear? At this point its only Goodells fault for not putting a stop to Al Riveron, why Sean Payton was talking about the need for a commitee of ppl on replay, theirs no trust in Riveron and his band of misfits.
Vrillon82 1000 Posts + Join Date: Aug 2012 Posts: 1,127