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this is a discussion within the Saints Community Forum; It's very difficult to stop both the Panther's passing and Mccaffrey simultaneously with Lattimore out. If Lattimore played, the Panthers would have had a much lower score....

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Old 11-24-2019, 05:57 PM   #1
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Re: Observations from the Saints win over the Panthers

It's very difficult to stop both the Panther's passing and Mccaffrey simultaneously with Lattimore out. If Lattimore played, the Panthers would have had a much lower score.
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Old 11-24-2019, 07:38 PM   #2
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It's very difficult to stop both the Panther's passing and Mccaffrey simultaneously with Lattimore out. If Lattimore played, the Panthers would have had a much lower score.
Considering we didn't have Lattimore our CB1, thought our pass defense was okay; other than Cam and Onyemata, it looked poor...

Mr. Marcus, who's played great this season, letting some deep drops get by as Allen keyed off of Mr. Marcus all day...
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Old 11-24-2019, 09:27 PM   #3
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Considering we didn't have Lattimore our CB1, thought our pass defense was okay; other than Cam and Onyemata, it looked poor...

Mr. Marcus, who's played great this season, letting some deep drops get by as Allen keyed off of Mr. Marcus all day...
Not sure what game you were watching, he tees off on PJ Williams who had about 200 yds and 2TDs hung on him today.
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Not sure what game you were watching, he tees off on PJ Williams who had about 200 yds and 2TDs hung on him today.
This one...



Notice there are two Williams getting smoked; PJ's not a normal starter, but Mr. Marcus has had a 90.0+ PFF grade and should never have allowed that WR to get behind him...

Now if you go back and watch the play on NFLN, Marcus commits, then Allen keys off of that bite and goes the other way, catching Mr. Marcus out of position - just as I stated in my post...

And if you hear Romo's analysis, he tells you exactly what happened...
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Re: Observations from the Saints win over the Panthers

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This one...

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Notice there are two Williams getting smoked; PJ's not a normal starter, but Mr. Marcus has had a 90.0+ PFF grade and should never have allowed that WR to get behind him...

Now if you go back and watch the play on NFLN, Marcus commits, then Allen keys off of that bite and goes the other way, catching Mr. Marcus out of position - just as I stated in my post...

And if you hear Romo's analysis, he tells you exactly what happened...
PJ bit.
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Not sure what game you were watching, he tees off on PJ Williams who had about 200 yds and 2TDs hung on him today.
Yup, and then we had to compensate, which allowed McCaffrey to get those short passes over and over again to move the sticks. Lattimore is so important to our defense. When he's in there it shifts everything..the linebackers play different, the pass rush is different. We kept getting caught between trying to stop Moore and McCaffrey . It was like we were trying to play a game of whack a mole today. If Lattimore is there, they can't do what they did to us today. They would still have decent games, because McCaffrey is a beast.. but we could play the sticks a lot better.

I'm not sure when Lattimore is supposed to be back, but Atlanta is going to be a really tough game if he's not playing. A lot of casual fans get too caught up in seeing scores and trying to correlate things. (Team X beat Team Y by 30 points, and Team Z only beat Team Y by a FG.. therefore Team X is better). Football doesn't work like this. Football is matchups, and with Lattimore out we are losing matchups we normally win.
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Ginn needs to see the bench or the unemployment line.

It's difficult to watch him hurt our team near enough every week.
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Ginn needs to see the bench or the unemployment line.

It's difficult to watch him hurt our team near enough every week.
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Who are you going to play in his place? It gets worse with Tre'Quan Smith...

We literally have four (4) active WRs on the roster; best WR in football; an old, slow "speed" WR; a regressing developmental 3R reach WR, and a recently promoted practice squad WR who's got more hair than game...
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PJ Williams is ABSOLUTE GARBAGE in coverage...GAAAAAAAARRRRRRBAGE!

That stated, he's damn good in the box and hits well at the line of scrimmage.

I'm thinking that CJ G-J is not showing well in practice or at the whiteboard for the coaches. But when the lights turn on he's better than PJ! And I doubt he'd let a WR just run right by knowing the Safety is on the other side of the field and not on his side covering deep.

That Ref and his crew...WORSE than PJ in coverage. Didn't think that was possible, for anything in the NFL to be as bad as PJ in coverage, but that guy proved me wrong.

The 4th and 1 conversion and that BS holding call where the DE falls over from diving to far and getting off balance and the LT touches him afterwards on top of his shoulder was ridiculous.
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Re: Observations from the Saints win over the Panthers

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Ginn needs to see the bench or the unemployment line.

It's difficult to watch him hurt our team near enough every week.
We don't have the luxury of benching him.

But many were content that this team does not need a #2, 3 or hell #4 WR.

There is Michael Thomas & a bunch of bodies running around at WR. Cook has shown up though at the TE position.
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