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K Major 11-30-2019 09:30 PM
Re: Wide Reciever
 
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Originally Posted by spkb25 (Post 870076)
I remember last year our offense was unstoppable until Dallas. I may be wrong and over simplifying here, but thought they doubled MT and had LB fast enough to stick with AK and as a result our entire offense bogged down.
Precisely.

See post #18.

K Major 11-30-2019 09:35 PM
Re: Wide Reciever
 
I'd like to see Deonte' Harris more involved in the offense vs Niners and subsequent playoff run.

Sure as hell can't count on Ginn and Trequan Smith.

Beastmode 11-30-2019 09:40 PM
Re: Wide Reciever
 
He was putting it right in their hands. We are who we are at this point. I would not throw it anyone but MT, Kamara, Taysom and Cook which is more options than Green Bay has so I will take it. Our WR's suck. Can't have it all.

st thomas 11-30-2019 11:33 PM
Re: Wide Reciever
 
Stop thinking fantasy stats and start thinking Super Bowl . Put AK in the slot and Murray in the back field which I think will be coming more often .


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st thomas 12-01-2019 07:35 AM
Re: Wide Reciever
 
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Originally Posted by K Major (Post 870058)
I'll leave it here ...

Can anyone honestly say you're comfortable with the Saints chances if say the 49ers or Vikings can take away MT13 and our running game struggles against a stout front? How will the Saints move the ball then without a capable receiver who can catch and get reasonable separation?? Cook, Ginn and Tre have yet to deliver consistently.

This offense has performed well, however it would be better served with a competent #2 opposite CGM. He'd have even more opportunities without bracket coverage.


It is what it is ... I'm just a arm chair GM but I surely hope the Saints front office/ scouts are targeting a WR in the 2020 draft and not un drafted guys who will need year(s) to develop.

Nailed It


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Rugby Saint II 12-01-2019 01:12 PM
Re: Wide Reciever
 
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Originally Posted by spkb25 (Post 870079)
Yeah I remember that too now. Mugging them. That's the thing about playoffs too, it is like they call the PI less stringent than during regular season.
When we get to the playoffs they will still be calling us for ticky tack penalties to keep the game alive for the big market teams.

Vrillon82 12-01-2019 02:20 PM
Re: Wide Reciever
 
People want to say Brees aint declining, his decision making may not be, but his arm certainly is.

He not getting the ball out like he did 4-5 years ago to a WR/TE. He still got the accuracy, but he not throwing it 20-30 yards down field unless they really wide open because his arm strength is obviously diminished alot. This is where you start to see where you stand with your WR/TE/RB because in the past, Brees could make anyone look good. Now you better have good talent at those positions that will help your QB as much as he helps you.

Halo 12-01-2019 03:08 PM
Re: Wide Reciever
 
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Originally Posted by Vrillon82 (Post 870138)
People want to say Brees aint declining, his decision making may not be, but his arm certainly is.

He not getting the ball out like he did 4-5 years ago to a WR/TE. He still got the accuracy, but he not throwing it 20-30 yards down field unless they really wide open because his arm strength is obviously diminished alot. This is where you start to see where you stand with your WR/TE/RB because in the past, Brees could make anyone look good. Now you better have good talent at those positions that will help your QB as much as he helps you.
I saw a 25 yard pass that fell into TE Cook's hands and dropped with a wide open field
Cook also dropped another easy touch pass inside the end zone.
Tedd Ginn Jr has dropped so many balls this year that I hope we cut him. Those balls have landed right in his hands.

Brees decline? Sure... maybe.... who would know if wide receivers don't catch balls. I've read this argument that Brees has been on the decline since 2012.

K Major 12-03-2019 11:29 AM
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I thought Brees would come un glued after that dropped pass (close to perfect) from Cook.

It was a rainbow. Maybe Jared lost it in the light? I don't know but we need his A game vs the Niners.

dam1953 12-03-2019 12:39 PM
Re: Wide Reciever
 
Quote:
Originally Posted by Halo (Post 870152)
I saw a 25 yard pass that fell into TE Cook's hands and dropped with a wide open field
Cook also dropped another easy touch pass inside the end zone.
Tedd Ginn Jr has dropped so many balls this year that I hope we cut him. Those balls have landed right in his hands.

Brees decline? Sure... maybe.... who would know if wide receivers don't catch balls. I've read this argument that Brees has been on the decline since 2012.
For years Brees has made average to good receivers look great. This year we're seeing the reverse, where bad receivers are making it look like Brees' age is starting to take its toll, when that isn't the case.

Seems like we are always missing a critical piece. For years there weren't many holes in the O, but the D looked like a sieve. We were setting records on both sides of the ball. Unfortunately, the defensive records were the type you don't want to own.

Once the D line came around we couldn't find a corner. Now that the D has plugged most of the holes, the O only has one reliable receiver. Thank God he's the best in the NFL.

As a Saints fan, this is totally frustrating. It has to be driving Brees crazy.


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