Originally Posted by ChrisXVI (Post 870410)

Latavius Murray, our #2 RB, has more catches than any WR not named Michael Thomas.

Originally Posted by ChrisXVI (Post 870529)

https://twitter.com/amie_just/status...39810410684421

Damn it all to hell.

Originally Posted by SaintFanInATLHELL (Post 870024)

I cannot for the life of me figure out why many think that the 3rd/4th receiver position is going to the be the downfall of the Saints. I can understand being annoyed with the drops. But even CGM dropped a ball Thursday.

What exactly is a first round WR pick going to do after balls to CGM, Kamara, Cook, Ginn, and Taysom? And that doesn't even consider other targets to TQS and backup tight ends.

I caught a segment last weekend on Gameday Morning with Kurt Warner on CGM. Kurt made an observation that tracks with the reality of the situation and points to why bringing someone else in isn't going to change much. This is in reference to Brees to Thomas:

This dispels the myth that Brees doesn't target other receivers because they are not open or not getting separation. CGM has a better catch percentage (86%) in contested catches than the rest of the NFL has throwing balls in the flat to open running backs. As Warner observed in the segment "Why would you throw it anywhere else?"

BTW this was true of Teddy too during his run. His QB rating was 40 points higher when targeting CGM than the ball going anywhere else.

Also BTW CGM is a perfect example of why 1st round WR are generally a bad idea. Care to name any of the 1st round WR drafted before CGM? Probably not as it'll leave a bad taste in your mouth.

All anyone who is currently a receiver on the Saints needs to do is catch the damn ball when it's thrown to them. Cook and Ginn, and even CGM, catching those drops makes this a completely different game.

SFIAH

Originally Posted by burningmetal (Post 870577)

What I don't understand about your post is why you make it sound like, other than drops, Ginn and Cook and Smith are perfectly fine. They aren't.

The focus of your argument obviously centers around what Kurt Warner said, but Kurt Warner, from my perspective, appears to be speaking out of his butt on this one.

Because, I get it, if Mike is open, why throw anywhere else? You don't. But he's not open on every single play. If he were, he'd have about 3,000 receiving yards right now. And a lot of his catches are short yardage, hence the low average per catch. That's not a criticism of Mike, but rather an indictment on the offense, as a whole.

These guys are not getting open downfield and creating opportunities. There shouldn't have to be so many checkdown throws. I'm not saying you go get a WR in the first round, but you better get one somewhere early in the draft. No more unreasonable expectations for UDFA's.