49ers @ Saints Game Day Thread

Rugby Saint II · 12-08-2019, 04:03 PM

Originally Posted by lee909

I have no doubt the Seahawks will beat these in a few weeks. Mostly because they'll do what we didn't. Control the tempo and shove everything up the gut and wear them out. Then if they stack the box they actually have 2 or three threats at receiver in Metcalf and Lockett plus role plsyers

Hate to say it but the Seahawks are the team to beat imho.

No. We still are.

lee909 · 12-08-2019, 04:08 PM

Originally Posted by Rugby Saint II

No. We still are.

I can go with that

Hard to beat the opponents and refs though.

Apart from calls so much sloppy play. Might get away with onside kicks and penalties against Bucs etc but not at top level. The teams always seems to find a way to keep games in the balance.

hitta · 12-08-2019, 04:02 PM

It's a shame that Dean Blandino, former head of officiating, doesn't understand the holding rule on passes in punt formation. It doesn't work like other passes. On other plays, you have holding before the pass and pass interference afterwards. On punts though, that PI isn't there, but that doesn't mean you can't hold during the pass. If the pass is thrown out of the punt formation, holding can occur at any time... even when the ball is in the air, which is what happened. Horrible understanding of the rules, and the refs suck.

burningmetal · 12-08-2019, 04:15 PM

Originally Posted by hitta

It's a shame that Dean Blandino, former head of officiating, doesn't understand the holding rule on passes in punt formation. It doesn't work like other passes. On other plays, you have holding before the pass and pass interference afterwards. On punts though, that PI isn't there, but that doesn't mean you can't hold during the pass. If the pass is thrown out of the punt formation, holding can occur at any time... even when the ball is in the air, which is what happened. Horrible understanding of the rules, and the refs suck.

That's what I was saying earlier, and I was doing some serious yelling at the TV while Dean was putting his foot in his mouth. I haven't been that mad during a game in years. I was saying "do you hear yourself, Dean!"

How can he sit there and admit, on one hand, that you can't hold on a punt, but then say "oh, but he can't be called for interference"... Dean! It's STILL holding! What about that? What a total clown show. And neither announcers had either the common sense, or the guts to point that out to him.

Rugby Saint II · 12-08-2019, 04:03 PM

The refs really nailed us again. The first half I was wondering where the flags were. I found out in the fourth quarter.

saintfan · 12-08-2019, 04:07 PM

This game, like so many before it, was rigged by the league. I don't understand how people don't see it.

lee909 · 12-08-2019, 04:10 PM

Originally Posted by saintfan

This game, like so many before it, was rigged by the league. I don't understand how people don't see it.

To a point I agree
Though I think it's league wide issue, they definitely want certain markets in. But I'm sick of blaming officials and letting sloppy play off the hook.

saintfan · 12-08-2019, 04:13 PM

Originally Posted by lee909

To a point I agree
Though I think it's league wide issue, they definitely want certain markets in. But I'm sick of blaming officials and letting sloppy play off the hook.

There was nothing sloppy about Johnson's tackle. That was the league giving the Niners a first down, and had it not been on him it would have been on someone else for some other bull**** call. It's not even debatable. The league does all it can to controll the outcome. Nothing could be more obvious.

lee909 · 12-08-2019, 04:17 PM

Originally Posted by saintfan

There was nothing sloppy about Johnson's tackle. That was the league giving the Niners a first down, and had it not been on him it would have been on someone else for some other bull**** call. It's not even debatable. The league does all it can to controll the outcome. Nothing could be more obvious.

I don't disagree
No doubt the Saints are on the rough end, no doubt the league doesn't want home field advantage for the Saints and wants Dallas, 49ers,Rams and the media market going deep. It wasnt sloppy by Johnson, but plenty of plays over the past weeks have been. 3 onside kick recoveries, last play today, drops etc.

The refs suck, But that's a easy get out for plays the team should be converting and taking them out of it

Rugby Saint II · 12-08-2019, 04:30 PM

Originally Posted by lee909

To a point I agree
Though I think it's league wide issue, they definitely want certain markets in. But I'm sick of blaming officials and letting sloppy play off the hook.

That's the most accurate statement I've heard all day. Well said good sir.

12-08-2019, 04:03 PM	#1
Rugby Saint II Bounty Money $$$ Join Date: Oct 2008 Location: 5800 Airline Dr. Metairie, LA. Posts: 24,200	Re: 49ers @ Saints Game Day Thread Originally Posted by lee909 I have no doubt the Seahawks will beat these in a few weeks. Mostly because they'll do what we didn't. Control the tempo and shove everything up the gut and wear them out. Then if they stack the box they actually have 2 or three threats at receiver in Metcalf and Lockett plus role plsyers Hate to say it but the Seahawks are the team to beat imho. No. We still are.

12-08-2019, 04:08 PM	#2
lee909 5000 POSTS! + Join Date: Mar 2012 Location: Watford England Posts: 8,875 Blog Entries: 1	Re: 49ers @ Saints Game Day Thread Originally Posted by Rugby Saint II No. We still are. I can go with that Hard to beat the opponents and refs though. Apart from calls so much sloppy play. Might get away with onside kicks and penalties against Bucs etc but not at top level. The teams always seems to find a way to keep games in the balance.

12-08-2019, 04:02 PM	#3
hitta 1000 Posts + Join Date: Oct 2009 Posts: 1,342	Re: 49ers @ Saints Game Day Thread It's a shame that Dean Blandino, former head of officiating, doesn't understand the holding rule on passes in punt formation. It doesn't work like other passes. On other plays, you have holding before the pass and pass interference afterwards. On punts though, that PI isn't there, but that doesn't mean you can't hold during the pass. If the pass is thrown out of the punt formation, holding can occur at any time... even when the ball is in the air, which is what happened. Horrible understanding of the rules, and the refs suck.
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12-08-2019, 04:15 PM	#4
burningmetal 1000 Posts + Join Date: Mar 2012 Posts: 3,923 Blog Entries: 3	Re: 49ers @ Saints Game Day Thread Originally Posted by hitta It's a shame that Dean Blandino, former head of officiating, doesn't understand the holding rule on passes in punt formation. It doesn't work like other passes. On other plays, you have holding before the pass and pass interference afterwards. On punts though, that PI isn't there, but that doesn't mean you can't hold during the pass. If the pass is thrown out of the punt formation, holding can occur at any time... even when the ball is in the air, which is what happened. Horrible understanding of the rules, and the refs suck. That's what I was saying earlier, and I was doing some serious yelling at the TV while Dean was putting his foot in his mouth. I haven't been that mad during a game in years. I was saying "do you hear yourself, Dean!" How can he sit there and admit, on one hand, that you can't hold on a punt, but then say "oh, but he can't be called for interference"... Dean! It's STILL holding! What about that? What a total clown show. And neither announcers had either the common sense, or the guts to point that out to him.
	If I had a nickel for every time I heard that, the NFL would fine and suspend me.

12-08-2019, 04:03 PM	#5
Rugby Saint II Bounty Money $$$ Join Date: Oct 2008 Location: 5800 Airline Dr. Metairie, LA. Posts: 24,200	Re: 49ers @ Saints Game Day Thread The refs really nailed us again. The first half I was wondering where the flags were. I found out in the fourth quarter.

12-08-2019, 04:07 PM	#6
saintfan Donated Plasma Join Date: Jul 2002 Location: San Francisco, CA Posts: 18,556 Blog Entries: 5	Re: 49ers @ Saints Game Day Thread This game, like so many before it, was rigged by the league. I don't understand how people don't see it.

12-08-2019, 04:10 PM	#7
lee909 5000 POSTS! + Join Date: Mar 2012 Location: Watford England Posts: 8,875 Blog Entries: 1	Re: 49ers @ Saints Game Day Thread Originally Posted by saintfan This game, like so many before it, was rigged by the league. I don't understand how people don't see it. To a point I agree Though I think it's league wide issue, they definitely want certain markets in. But I'm sick of blaming officials and letting sloppy play off the hook.

12-08-2019, 04:13 PM	#8
saintfan Donated Plasma Join Date: Jul 2002 Location: San Francisco, CA Posts: 18,556 Blog Entries: 5	Re: 49ers @ Saints Game Day Thread Originally Posted by lee909 To a point I agree Though I think it's league wide issue, they definitely want certain markets in. But I'm sick of blaming officials and letting sloppy play off the hook. There was nothing sloppy about Johnson's tackle. That was the league giving the Niners a first down, and had it not been on him it would have been on someone else for some other bull**** call. It's not even debatable. The league does all it can to controll the outcome. Nothing could be more obvious.

12-08-2019, 04:17 PM	#9
lee909 5000 POSTS! + Join Date: Mar 2012 Location: Watford England Posts: 8,875 Blog Entries: 1	Re: 49ers @ Saints Game Day Thread Originally Posted by saintfan There was nothing sloppy about Johnson's tackle. That was the league giving the Niners a first down, and had it not been on him it would have been on someone else for some other bull**** call. It's not even debatable. The league does all it can to controll the outcome. Nothing could be more obvious. I don't disagree No doubt the Saints are on the rough end, no doubt the league doesn't want home field advantage for the Saints and wants Dallas, 49ers,Rams and the media market going deep. It wasnt sloppy by Johnson, but plenty of plays over the past weeks have been. 3 onside kick recoveries, last play today, drops etc. The refs suck, But that's a easy get out for plays the team should be converting and taking them out of it

12-08-2019, 04:30 PM	#10
Rugby Saint II Bounty Money $$$ Join Date: Oct 2008 Location: 5800 Airline Dr. Metairie, LA. Posts: 24,200	Re: 49ers @ Saints Game Day Thread Originally Posted by lee909 To a point I agree Though I think it's league wide issue, they definitely want certain markets in. But I'm sick of blaming officials and letting sloppy play off the hook. That's the most accurate statement I've heard all day. Well said good sir.

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