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this is a discussion within the Saints Community Forum; Originally Posted by hitta You made my point for me though. Brees will throw to Thomas will a small amount of separation. He won't do that with other guys. While this has a lot to do with the fact that ...
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Re: This may sound odd..
Originally Posted by hitta
He has thrown hundreds of passes to all of them throughout the season, in game and in practice. The idea that taking away Thomas will force Brees to throw to the others, thus immediately improving their chemistry is a bit ridiculous. As I said, Brees will ALWAYS throw to the best option (ie. the most open). Taking away Thomas will NOT make the others anymore open, once again, quite the opposite. They will all be getting a step up in coverage with Thomas out. The WR game will become less involved with Brees having to check down to the RB's all that more often.![]()
I feel you are greatly underestimating Brees. And as the Foles/Jeffery comparison goes, in the five games with Foles as QB Jeffery was targeted 32 times for an average of 6.4 times per game. With Wentz he was targeted 50 times in eight games for a very similar 6.25 times per game. He was getting open at the same rate for both QB's. The same goes for Thomas. He was targeted equally by both Bridgewater and Brees as compared to the other WR's. It was because he was getting open more consistently and had nothing to do with some supposed familiarity with the others. I repeat, the discrepancy between the total receptions by Thomas as compared to the other receivers has very little, if anything, to do with Brees and virtually everything to do with the success of those other receivers in getting as open as Thomas. Taking Thomas away isn't going to magically make them better. To be fair, both Tre'quan and Cook have dealt with injuries at times throughout the season. Ginn, on the other hand, has no excuse. Still, they have all been getting open more often recently, but with Thomas open as well who would you throw the ball to? The greatest receiver ever in Saints history maybe? Edit: By the way, Foles threw to Ertz exactly nine times per game ... Wentz 10.09 times per game. Pretty much the same, as well. |
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Re: This may sound odd..
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https://www.phlsportsnation.com/2019...tz-connection/![]()
Especially pay attention to the portion about contested throws. |
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Re: This may sound odd..
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Interesting article. It supports that much more why Thomas gets the attention from both Brees and Bridgewater. It explains that Jeffery's strength is with the contested ball. Yet, not every receiver is of the same mold as Thomas and Jeffrey. They are open on those contested plays due to their aggressiveness. None of our other receivers have that same trait. Is that Brees' fault? Is trying to force the ball into a contested situation that a receiver is not at an advantage help? That would do nothing but result in more incompletions or interceptions. Finding the open receiver is still the best option.![]()
Simply targeting the other receivers when they are not as open as Thomas is counterproductive and totally illogical. Once again, the only solution is for the individual receivers to improve their ability to get open or their ability to win consistently on the contested play. None of them have shown they can do the second based upon their drops. |
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