Bobby Hebert said he hopes Eli Apple goes to IR

burningmetal · 12-24-2019, 07:57 PM

Originally Posted by jeanpierre

First, You posted he should be fired for what he posted, it's what you posted; that is the call-out/cancel-culture we've arrived...

Two, If we do not allow redemption, then we should all be cancelled upon our first sin and we'd have nothing to live for other than daily mundane life...

Third, he's not mandatory listening. I Don't listen to his show regularly, I Don't agree with what much of what he says, but I'll defend his right to say it...

Lastly, I laughed it off and appreciate that at least he's got the cajones to say it - something very rare in public figures today, save one...

I for one am pulling for Eli Apple, even msg his Mom via Twitter with a Prayer for his Healing from the BCP, and for Eli to become even stronger, be a difference maker in our winning the Superbowl...

But if I have a choice of Deshazier-style/Bensel-approved press releases, or Hebert-gut takes, I'll take the later, even if I disagree, criticize Hebert's wrong-take opinion(s)...

JP, I'm with you on people having the right to speak their mind. But when you're on the radio, you work for that station, and I'm frankly surprised he HASN'T been fired by now, for some of the dumb things he has said. I enjoy his homerism, and get a laugh out of a lot of things he says, but sometimes he just says some really dumb things.

We're all disappointed in Apple's play, but wishing a guy would go on IR is below the belt. How about just saying the team should release him? Not that the Saints can really afford to do that at this point in the season, but it's better than hoping a guy is hurt bad enough to go on IR.

Bobby has every right to be critical of players, and it's great that he voices his opinion. Most of us are the same way. But it's not ok, or funny to say what he said. It's a cheap shot, and it's something angry teenagers say. Someone who's being PAID to talk, not just a random guy you're talking to on the street, should be more professional and mature than that.

burningmetal · 12-24-2019, 08:02 PM

Originally Posted by WillMacKenzie

Bobby says a lot of stupid stuff, but I reckon if we all decided what other people should be fired over, none of us would have a job eventually.

Mob mentality and censorship is extremely dangerous. People read history books and wonder aloud “how could those people over there have gotten so inhumane” - I can assure you, it isn’t long until even innocent people are thrown into the fire

Is it a mob mentality for people to say he should be fired? I consider it a mob mentality when people protest and DEMAND that someone be fired. If Bobby has the right to be an idiot, then everyone has the right to say they think he should be fired. They're not going to fire Bobby over this. They'd have fired him a long time ago, if they cared about what people say.

I don't care if they fire him or not. I just think he needs learn how to think before he speaks.

JayFoster · 12-24-2019, 08:47 PM

Originally Posted by WhoDat!656

Remember the game that Wade Wilson was injured and the Superdome cheered?

Jim Mora Mad About Fans Cheering Injury - YouTube

I was there and I didn't cheer for that. It was disgusting and no different than wishing someone would get hurt.

Apple simply isn't as good as Lattimore and may not be as good as Jenkins but wishing the guy would get hurt is simply wrong. It's got nothing to do with censorship - he can say whatever he wants (kind of like saying Marcus Williams was on the take after the Vikings game which was totally made up and disgusting but he got away with it) but at some point, what he says ought to have some consequences.

JayFoster · 12-24-2019, 08:48 PM

Originally Posted by burningmetal

Is it a mob mentality for people to say he should be fired? I consider it a mob mentality when people protest and DEMAND that someone be fired. If Bobby has the right to be an idiot, then everyone as the right to say they think he should be fired. They're not going to fire Bobby over this. They'd have fired him a long time ago, if they cared about what people say.

I don't care if they fire him or not. I just think he needs learn how to think before he speaks.

Yes, it's just not nice and we say things today that we would never say to each other's face. I would guess that is because of social media, etc.

blackangold · 12-24-2019, 09:54 PM

Can’t stand the PC culture... I don’t care he said that, Apple has been trash for the last 8 weeks.

Anyone who thinks he should be fired should get fired for whatever... just the dumbest ****.

saintfan · 12-24-2019, 10:20 PM

People clamoring for Bobby to be fired because of this are the result of the "Everybody gets a trophy" mentality.

Grow a pair. Somebody said something you didn't like. So what?

It's got nothing to do with whether Bobby sucks or not. Bobby has an opinion and he's paid to broadcast it. If you don't like it there are lots of options. Change the damn channel.

Effin snowflakes. The world is full of 'em. Effin snowflakes...

Beastmode · 12-24-2019, 10:36 PM

Bobby took monster hits back in the day. Gerry Glanville said he was the toughest QB he ever seen. He said he would dial up sick hits on him and everytime, Bobby would get up.

Bobby is from another era. Is it messed up wishing someone to IR...today, yeah it is but that is Bobby. He's old school, the days when a DE could slap a QB in the head at full blast and it was not frowned upon. I'll cut him some slack.

Apple though is a severe liability. Not sure what happened but something is wrong. Reminds me of Alex Molden at this point. It's a problem.

burningmetal · 12-25-2019, 02:32 AM

Originally Posted by saintfan

People clamoring for Bobby to be fired because of this are the result of the "Everybody gets a trophy" mentality.

Grow a pair. Somebody said something you didn't like. So what?

It's got nothing to do with whether Bobby sucks or not. Bobby has an opinion and he's paid to broadcast it. If you don't like it there are lots of options. Change the damn channel.

Effin snowflakes. The world is full of 'em. Effin snowflakes...

Calling for him to be fired is a little extreme, but it seems like some folks in here think that not being an a** is the same thing as being politically correct. It's actually really annoying, and almost as bad as political correctness, itself, when people defend other's to the death over saying something stupid, because "that's his right". Not everything is a political matter.

Everyone is entitled to their opinion. But when your opinion is stupid, people should have the balls to say it's stupid, instead of making excuses for him. Wishing someone would go to IR? Really? There's being edgy, and then there's just being classless.

And that's just how I was raised. I'm a conservative, raised by conservative parents. Rest assured, we aren't PC kind of people. But when I was growing up, if I had sad "I hope so and so goes to IR", my dad would have lit into me about not wishing harm on others. I don't know where this mentality comes from that it's cool to just say stuff, no matter how stupid it is.

TheOak · 12-25-2019, 03:45 AM

Someone please show me where anyone has wished a healthy player injury?

subguy · 12-25-2019, 06:35 AM

People on both sides can think their own thoughts and have their own opinion. Lots of channels out there to listen too, if you don't like it don't listen to his show. Bobby has his own mind as well. Was it a crappy thing to say, not to him obviously or he did it for attention, either way he said it. You can't put the toothpaste back in the tube. Move along, nothing to see here. Wishing harm on someone for wishing harm on someone, does anyone see the irony in this?

12-24-2019, 07:57 PM	#21
burningmetal 1000 Posts + Join Date: Mar 2012 Posts: 3,923 Blog Entries: 3	Re: Bobby Hebert said he hopes Eli Apple goes to IR Originally Posted by jeanpierre First, You posted he should be fired for what he posted, it's what you posted; that is the call-out/cancel-culture we've arrived... Two, If we do not allow redemption, then we should all be cancelled upon our first sin and we'd have nothing to live for other than daily mundane life... Third, he's not mandatory listening. I Don't listen to his show regularly, I Don't agree with what much of what he says, but I'll defend his right to say it... Lastly, I laughed it off and appreciate that at least he's got the cajones to say it - something very rare in public figures today, save one... I for one am pulling for Eli Apple, even msg his Mom via Twitter with a Prayer for his Healing from the BCP, and for Eli to become even stronger, be a difference maker in our winning the Superbowl... But if I have a choice of Deshazier-style/Bensel-approved press releases, or Hebert-gut takes, I'll take the later, even if I disagree, criticize Hebert's wrong-take opinion(s)... JP, I'm with you on people having the right to speak their mind. But when you're on the radio, you work for that station, and I'm frankly surprised he HASN'T been fired by now, for some of the dumb things he has said. I enjoy his homerism, and get a laugh out of a lot of things he says, but sometimes he just says some really dumb things. We're all disappointed in Apple's play, but wishing a guy would go on IR is below the belt. How about just saying the team should release him? Not that the Saints can really afford to do that at this point in the season, but it's better than hoping a guy is hurt bad enough to go on IR. Bobby has every right to be critical of players, and it's great that he voices his opinion. Most of us are the same way. But it's not ok, or funny to say what he said. It's a cheap shot, and it's something angry teenagers say. Someone who's being PAID to talk, not just a random guy you're talking to on the street, should be more professional and mature than that. K Major and Audiotom like this.
	If I had a nickel for every time I heard that, the NFL would fine and suspend me.

12-24-2019, 08:02 PM	#22
burningmetal 1000 Posts + Join Date: Mar 2012 Posts: 3,923 Blog Entries: 3	Re: Bobby Hebert said he hopes Eli Apple goes to IR Originally Posted by WillMacKenzie Bobby says a lot of stupid stuff, but I reckon if we all decided what other people should be fired over, none of us would have a job eventually. Mob mentality and censorship is extremely dangerous. People read history books and wonder aloud “how could those people over there have gotten so inhumane” - I can assure you, it isn’t long until even innocent people are thrown into the fire Is it a mob mentality for people to say he should be fired? I consider it a mob mentality when people protest and DEMAND that someone be fired. If Bobby has the right to be an idiot, then everyone has the right to say they think he should be fired. They're not going to fire Bobby over this. They'd have fired him a long time ago, if they cared about what people say. I don't care if they fire him or not. I just think he needs learn how to think before he speaks. SaintGup likes this.

12-24-2019, 08:47 PM	#23
JayFoster 100th Post Join Date: Sep 2004 Posts: 122	Re: Bobby Hebert said he hopes Eli Apple goes to IR Originally Posted by WhoDat!656 Remember the game that Wade Wilson was injured and the Superdome cheered? Jim Mora Mad About Fans Cheering Injury - YouTube I was there and I didn't cheer for that. It was disgusting and no different than wishing someone would get hurt. Apple simply isn't as good as Lattimore and may not be as good as Jenkins but wishing the guy would get hurt is simply wrong. It's got nothing to do with censorship - he can say whatever he wants (kind of like saying Marcus Williams was on the take after the Vikings game which was totally made up and disgusting but he got away with it) but at some point, what he says ought to have some consequences. Rugby Saint II likes this.
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12-24-2019, 08:48 PM	#24
JayFoster 100th Post Join Date: Sep 2004 Posts: 122	Re: Bobby Hebert said he hopes Eli Apple goes to IR Originally Posted by burningmetal Is it a mob mentality for people to say he should be fired? I consider it a mob mentality when people protest and DEMAND that someone be fired. If Bobby has the right to be an idiot, then everyone as the right to say they think he should be fired. They're not going to fire Bobby over this. They'd have fired him a long time ago, if they cared about what people say. I don't care if they fire him or not. I just think he needs learn how to think before he speaks. Yes, it's just not nice and we say things today that we would never say to each other's face. I would guess that is because of social media, etc.
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12-24-2019, 09:54 PM	#25
blackangold 1000 Posts + Join Date: Aug 2011 Posts: 3,422	Re: Bobby Hebert said he hopes Eli Apple goes to IR Can’t stand the PC culture... I don’t care he said that, Apple has been trash for the last 8 weeks. Anyone who thinks he should be fired should get fired for whatever... just the dumbest ****.

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12-24-2019, 10:20 PM	#26
saintfan Donated Plasma Join Date: Jul 2002 Location: San Francisco, CA Posts: 18,556 Blog Entries: 5	Re: Bobby Hebert said he hopes Eli Apple goes to IR People clamoring for Bobby to be fired because of this are the result of the "Everybody gets a trophy" mentality. Grow a pair. Somebody said something you didn't like. So what? It's got nothing to do with whether Bobby sucks or not. Bobby has an opinion and he's paid to broadcast it. If you don't like it there are lots of options. Change the damn channel. Effin snowflakes. The world is full of 'em. Effin snowflakes...

12-24-2019, 10:36 PM	#27
Beastmode 5000 POSTS! + Join Date: Jul 2010 Posts: 9,126	Re: Bobby Hebert said he hopes Eli Apple goes to IR Bobby took monster hits back in the day. Gerry Glanville said he was the toughest QB he ever seen. He said he would dial up sick hits on him and everytime, Bobby would get up. Bobby is from another era. Is it messed up wishing someone to IR...today, yeah it is but that is Bobby. He's old school, the days when a DE could slap a QB in the head at full blast and it was not frowned upon. I'll cut him some slack. Apple though is a severe liability. Not sure what happened but something is wrong. Reminds me of Alex Molden at this point. It's a problem.
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12-25-2019, 02:32 AM	#28
burningmetal 1000 Posts + Join Date: Mar 2012 Posts: 3,923 Blog Entries: 3	Re: Bobby Hebert said he hopes Eli Apple goes to IR Originally Posted by saintfan People clamoring for Bobby to be fired because of this are the result of the "Everybody gets a trophy" mentality. Grow a pair. Somebody said something you didn't like. So what? It's got nothing to do with whether Bobby sucks or not. Bobby has an opinion and he's paid to broadcast it. If you don't like it there are lots of options. Change the damn channel. Effin snowflakes. The world is full of 'em. Effin snowflakes... Calling for him to be fired is a little extreme, but it seems like some folks in here think that not being an a** is the same thing as being politically correct. It's actually really annoying, and almost as bad as political correctness, itself, when people defend other's to the death over saying something stupid, because "that's his right". Not everything is a political matter. Everyone is entitled to their opinion. But when your opinion is stupid, people should have the balls to say it's stupid, instead of making excuses for him. Wishing someone would go to IR? Really? There's being edgy, and then there's just being classless. And that's just how I was raised. I'm a conservative, raised by conservative parents. Rest assured, we aren't PC kind of people. But when I was growing up, if I had sad "I hope so and so goes to IR", my dad would have lit into me about not wishing harm on others. I don't know where this mentality comes from that it's cool to just say stuff, no matter how stupid it is.
	If I had a nickel for every time I heard that, the NFL would fine and suspend me.

12-25-2019, 03:45 AM	#29
TheOak 10000 POST CLUB Join Date: Dec 2009 Location: Cypress Tx. Posts: 19,026	Re: Bobby Hebert said he hopes Eli Apple goes to IR Someone please show me where anyone has wished a healthy player injury?

12-25-2019, 06:35 AM	#30
subguy 1000 Posts + Join Date: Aug 2002 Location: FL Posts: 2,095	Re: Bobby Hebert said he hopes Eli Apple goes to IR People on both sides can think their own thoughts and have their own opinion. Lots of channels out there to listen too, if you don't like it don't listen to his show. Bobby has his own mind as well. Was it a crappy thing to say, not to him obviously or he did it for attention, either way he said it. You can't put the toothpaste back in the tube. Move along, nothing to see here. Wishing harm on someone for wishing harm on someone, does anyone see the irony in this?