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Report: Saints one of three teams interested in signing Antonio Brown

https://saintswire.usatoday.com/2019...wl-contenders/

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AB is in the midst of a civil case, not a criminal case.
Britany Taylor says she was "raped" but there are no criminal charges.
She's gone to civil court to get money.
There's tons of evidence that they were dating.

AB is fighting the civil case, but there may be a settlement or it may get thrown out, who knows.

The league hasn't investigated it because it's a civil case and nothing but a settlement will come from it. Until there is an actual criminal charge and case, it's just a girlfriend's word against her ex-boyfriend.

The league may not see fit to act, but I suspect when the Saints invest in AB, Goodell will blacklist him.

Any which way, AB has been a troublemaker. He needs a team like New Orleans or the Patriots to straighten him out. This would be his second chance with a big team that doesn't put up with BS. Patriots cut him based on the claim and hearsay and that activists started going to their press conferences. Does that make it true? Not really. Just outrage over something that may end up being nothing. Who knows.

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Sean Payton just said they would need clarity on whether AB would be on an ineligible list for the playoffs or not.

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If a team signs him he could be put on the commissioner's exemption list. Which means he won't play until the investigation advises he can.

I'm sure this is what everyone is talking about. Obviously, there was no need to place him on that list because he hadn't signed with a team.

Stop treating everyone like they're stupid. Its annoying.

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The point is that he COULD be put on the exempt list IF the commissioner has a reason to place him on the list. As Halo pointed out, he is involved in a civil case. A simple "she said/he said" case that may be thrown out altogether. The league will not delve into any investigation if there is nothing illegal or criminal involved.

I'm not saying people are stupid ... just simply uninformed. The smartest people can be wrong if they are unaware of the facts.

Once again, there is no active investigation. And even if there was one it would not preclude him from playing. In every other case leading to being placed upon the exempt list there has been formal charges involved.

I'm not lobbying for or against the Saints signing Brown. I am simply pointing out the relevant facts, or more precisely the relevant non-facts.

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Video I posted above puts it to rest. Saints will not sign Antonio Brown without knowing from the League office whether they intend to put him on the exempt list or not.

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Thank you, Halo.

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Thank you Halo.
That was my point exactly Guido. The exempt list. And yes they can put him on it. Jesus. Chill out and stop badgering people.

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If you read back I was also talking about the exempt list. But a few people were implying that he was basically going to be automatically suspended until after the supposed "investigation". All I was pointing out was that this is not what is in fact the case.

1) Nothing is precluding him from playing at this point if signed by a team as things stand now.

2) The commissioner has the authority to place a player on the exempt list IF it is warranted.

3) Past players have only been placed on the exempt list when formally charged.

4) Brown has not been formally charged with any crime.

5) There is no formal active league investigation into Brown's supposed activities. (Admittedly there has most likely been looking into the affairs)

6) A couple of members here had mistakenly assumed that he would not be allowed to play until cleared of any wrong doing based upon the results of an investigation that does not exist.

7) I simply pointed out the above facts to help clarify the matter.

Methinks you might need to be the one to "chill", my friend.

;)

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Define "formally Charged"

Remember Vilma was on this list and there were zero criminal or civil charges against him. The Commissioner has been abusing this power for some time now.

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Okay, I would just like to say that I like that the Saints are at least kicking the tires on this.

That type of talent can be a huge add for the playoffs.

Simply put, I like that they are considering all options and not just saying "Hey, we're good going into the playoffs".

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Has he tried out for any other teams in the past few weeks?

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From what I've heard, no one will touch him.
The brilliance in the move is it's at the end of the season and he hasn't been put on the list, so Sean Payton is forcing Goodell's hand.

What's going to happen? Your guess is as good as anyone's.
I know AB cannot return to the Patriots over that tirade he put on social media about Kraft.

Sean Payton is the only other coach who may be able to handle AB because, frankly, we may go to the SuperBowl without AB - we aren't desperate for him. Other teams and coaches are too weak or would need AB to perform some miracle. Saints really don't need him, but if we got him it may mean the Saints offense would be more powerful than ever. If AB screws up, he would be cut immediately.

Great Friday drama though....

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Really. Personally I would be completely open to Brown at this time.

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This is true. But he was "convicted" already in Goodell's mind. That is part of the reason why players wouldn't be as easily arbitrarily placed upon the list after Tagliabue's reprimand.

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As the article points out, Seattle would pick him up, as well.

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I really do think he'd put him on the list just because of us. Goodell hates us. We are a small market team that is competing every single year. He's a corrupt commissioner that doesn't care about equity existing in the league.

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Yeah, now that he worked out with the Saints, a few teams have stepped forward. Seattle "needs" him more than we do. I just think it was a brilliant move by the front office to call Goodell's bluff. Waited until the end of the year, Goodell swore he would put Antonio Brown on the ban list if anyone tried to pick him up during the season, but forgot to mention anything about the "off season."
:chug:

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Could this just be a bit of posturing?

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I doubt it. Payton is serious about doing what it takes this year. He doesn't seem to be leaving any stone unturned at this point.

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As long as he knows Thomas is #1, bring him on board. Imagine secondaries trying to guard both these guys and Cook.

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Would the NFL Even Allow Antonio Brown to Play for the Saints?

https://www.si.com/nfl/2019/12/27/an...saints-workout

I don't trust Kommisar Goodell.

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This question has been answered many many times.

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I just did a double take on the names.

TommyLee? WTH? Why even bother :rolleyes:?

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At this point I would sign him. If we sign him he gets put on the list but if Seattle signs him they have another weapon.

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I would sign him... we only need him for the playoffs. It would be different if we needed him for a season or long term.

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I've always been a guy who believes a team should be strong enough to deal with players who have some problems, if he can help the team AND doesn't cost much, in case he doesn't work out.

But with Antonio Brown, he's been given many chances recently, and his issues not only haven't gotten any better, they have continued to escalate. He's the type of guy who has the potential to be a MAJOR distraction. Not like teams giving Josh Gordon a chance, and hoping he doesn't get busted for weed. This is way beyond that.

talent-wise, of course he could help. But I don't know that his head is anywhere near the game of football right now.

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RG should have made a decision on it weeks ago but there is no decision to be made. He didn't do anything criminal. AB will file a lawsuit and win. Can't destroy someone over a looming civil case unless you don't really care and say screw it which is what RG will in fact do.

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You are asking the players to deal with his crap for a month for a massive increase on their chance to win a ring. Im pretty sure the players and coaches can deal with it.

The league needs to put up or shut up with these cases. They are stepping way over the line with these investigations, if there is no ongoing criminal case(not civil) then there should be no suspension. But Goodell is running it like a dick-tator by trying to work behind the scences in blacklisting players. I mean they let AP and Hill back into the sport after the suspected child abuse, Albert Haynesworth damn near parlyzed a man and got to play on, lets not even go into Ben Roethlesberger and Ray Lewis legal history.

If a players is convicted or its a Ray Rice type case then fair enough otherwise leave it to the teams

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Its illegal blacklisting behind the scenes nothing more.

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as was already mentioned: first thing he does is post the waiver that he’s working out with Saints.

This dude is a nut and has not changed.

I think the Saints knew he would do this and is just playing head games with everybody

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Yeah! Why hold a legitimate tryout in the midst of a playoff push when you can just play head games with everyone and waste time and energy?

:chug:

:confused:

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I’d sign him...if he plays great...if he’s placed on the Exempt list then we get the roster spot back and it doesn’t cost us financially.

Like others have said though, if we sign him the league will send a letter back saying he’s on the Exempt list but at least no one else will get him.

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Sean Payton is a forward thinker, chess player. This is a calculated move by the organization. I'm sure in those private meetings, they've discussed bringing in AB for a "visit" and possible subsequent signing weeks ago. Win now mode.

IMO the Saints are built to win it all without AB, but imagine having him AND Michael Thomas on the same team.

Stay tuned.

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Bringing in AB for a playoff team is like bringing in a malfunctioning Dessert Eagle. I still say do it if possible. It could fire three time fine which is all we need.

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The writer is an idiot. Brown signed the waiver Kaeperdink refused to sign because Kaeperdink was not looking to get on a team in so much as Kaeperdink was trying to get more recognition.

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Just sign him. I hate the anticipation.