Stat kings: 4 Saints led NFL in 10 individual categories for 2019

12-30-2019, 06:10 PM

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homerj07 · 12-31-2019, 06:55 PM

And as a team lowest number of TOs!

ScottF · 01-02-2020, 01:41 PM

we also led the league in opponent's onside kicks recovered

The Dude · 01-02-2020, 11:23 PM

Originally Posted by ScottF

we also led the league in opponent's onside kicks recovered

That seriously has to be an NFL record.
You better believe we will see that in the playoffs.

AsylumGuido · 01-03-2020, 07:47 AM

Originally Posted by The Dude

That seriously has to be an NFL record.
You better believe we will see that in the playoffs.

I hope so. That would mean the other team was in a position of total desperation. Their chance of recovery would be minuscule. Those that were successful by the Falcon's kicker were a perfect execution which would be near impossible to duplicate.

vpheughan · 01-03-2020, 08:31 AM

Originally Posted by ScottF

we also led the league in opponent's onside kicks recovered

Resulting in how many losses?

WillMacKenzie · 01-03-2020, 10:08 AM

Originally Posted by AsylumGuido

I hope so. That would mean the other team was in a position of total desperation. Their chance of recovery would be minuscule. Those that were successful by the Falcon's kicker were a perfect execution which would be near impossible to duplicate.

Originally Posted by vpheughan

Resulting in how many losses?

Doesn’t have to be total desperation — that’s why ambush worked in the SB for us. Secondly, chance of recovery is probably just as good as our D stopping them with less than a minute to go (i.e. SF game and others).

As for losses due to onside kicks, just keep flicking matches at the gasoline and eventually you’ll hit it. Statistics, not opinions.

Why is there always an excuse to dismiss glaring concerns? Ask Payton to his face if it concerns him.

AsylumGuido · 01-03-2020, 12:34 PM

Originally Posted by WillMacKenzie

Doesn’t have to be total desperation — that’s why ambush worked in the SB for us. Secondly, chance of recovery is probably just as good as our D stopping them with less than a minute to go (i.e. SF game and others).

As for losses due to onside kicks, just keep flicking matches at the gasoline and eventually you’ll hit it. Statistics, not opinions.

Why is there always an excuse to dismiss glaring concerns? Ask Payton to his face if it concerns him.

I'm sure it doesn't concern him in the least. He too knows they were extremely rare perfect kicks that could not have bounced more perfectly. The new rules make the chances of recovering an onside quick extremely unlikely. The reason "ambush" worked is because it was a surprise and the old rules allowed the kicking team to be running toward the line on the kick approach. Apples and orange.

I see no "glaring concern".

WillMacKenzie · 01-03-2020, 01:05 PM

https://www.nola.com/sports/saints/a...4147a9088.html

“Doesn’t concern me in the least” - Sean Payton?

6% recovered league wide....over 60% recovered against Saints, probably higher without penalties negating them.

Yes, it’s a concern to anyone who wants to win football games.

ScottF · 01-03-2020, 02:09 PM

Originally Posted by WillMacKenzie

https://www.nola.com/sports/saints/a...4147a9088.html

“Doesn’t concern me in the least” - Sean Payton?

6% recovered league wide....over 60% recovered against Saints, probably higher without penalties negating them.

Yes, it’s a concern to anyone who wants to win football games.

Definitely a concern.
The two by Chicago were not perfect kicks- just really, really, poor execution. The first one vs Atl wasn't perfect either

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WillMacKenzie 1000 Posts + Join Date: Jan 2007 Posts: 1,627	Re: Stat kings: 4 Saints led NFL in 10 individual categories for 2019 Originally Posted by AsylumGuido I hope so. That would mean the other team was in a position of total desperation. Their chance of recovery would be minuscule. Those that were successful by the Falcon's kicker were a perfect execution which would be near impossible to duplicate. Originally Posted by vpheughan Resulting in how many losses? Doesn’t have to be total desperation — that’s why ambush worked in the SB for us. Secondly, chance of recovery is probably just as good as our D stopping them with less than a minute to go (i.e. SF game and others). As for losses due to onside kicks, just keep flicking matches at the gasoline and eventually you’ll hit it. Statistics, not opinions. Why is there always an excuse to dismiss glaring concerns? Ask Payton to his face if it concerns him.

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AsylumGuido 10000 POST CLUB Join Date: Sep 2007 Location: Bossier City, LA Posts: 26,274	Re: Stat kings: 4 Saints led NFL in 10 individual categories for 2019 Originally Posted by WillMacKenzie Doesn’t have to be total desperation — that’s why ambush worked in the SB for us. Secondly, chance of recovery is probably just as good as our D stopping them with less than a minute to go (i.e. SF game and others). As for losses due to onside kicks, just keep flicking matches at the gasoline and eventually you’ll hit it. Statistics, not opinions. Why is there always an excuse to dismiss glaring concerns? Ask Payton to his face if it concerns him. I'm sure it doesn't concern him in the least. He too knows they were extremely rare perfect kicks that could not have bounced more perfectly. The new rules make the chances of recovering an onside quick extremely unlikely. The reason "ambush" worked is because it was a surprise and the old rules allowed the kicking team to be running toward the line on the kick approach. Apples and orange. I see no "glaring concern".

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WillMacKenzie 1000 Posts + Join Date: Jan 2007 Posts: 1,627	Re: Stat kings: 4 Saints led NFL in 10 individual categories for 2019 https://www.nola.com/sports/saints/a...4147a9088.html “Doesn’t concern me in the least” - Sean Payton? 6% recovered league wide....over 60% recovered against Saints, probably higher without penalties negating them. Yes, it’s a concern to anyone who wants to win football games.

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ScottF 5000 POSTS! + Join Date: Feb 2007 Location: Atlanta Posts: 6,324	Re: Stat kings: 4 Saints led NFL in 10 individual categories for 2019 Originally Posted by WillMacKenzie https://www.nola.com/sports/saints/a...4147a9088.html “Doesn’t concern me in the least” - Sean Payton? 6% recovered league wide....over 60% recovered against Saints, probably higher without penalties negating them. Yes, it’s a concern to anyone who wants to win football games. Definitely a concern. The two by Chicago were not perfect kicks- just really, really, poor execution. The first one vs Atl wasn't perfect either