Observations from Saints loss to the Vilings

dizzle88 · 01-06-2020, 04:13 PM

Originally Posted by neugey

If I have to blame that fumble on anyone, it was Warford. It's one thing to whiff on a block and allow pressure up the middle. It's another thing to get bull-rushed by a smaller player and end up in your QB's lap when he's back in shotgun. Don't know how that can happen.

Or the guy that was carrying the ball away from his body with a defender on his back.

Also pretty sure it was Ram that got beat.

K Major · 01-06-2020, 04:22 PM

Originally Posted by dizzle88

Even if someone did run the wrong route, you cant blame anybody but the ball carrier for a fumble. Brees messed up, people need to accept it.

But still, any WR running the wrong route ... that's a problem.

dizzle88 · 01-06-2020, 04:29 PM

Originally Posted by K Major

But still, any WR running the wrong route ... that's a problem.

Yeah it definitely is. Just a further testament to Payton once again failing in the playoffs, it's not just the last 3 seasons. Look at any playoff loss since the Superbowl win, Saints are playoff chokers with Payton.

K Major · 01-06-2020, 04:39 PM

Originally Posted by dizzle88

Yeah it definitely is. Just a further testament to Payton once again failing in the playoffs, it's not just the last 3 seasons. Look at any playoff loss since the Superbowl win, Saints are playoff chokers with Payton.

I can't argue against that.

3 consecutive years, 3 consecutive heart break defeats in the post season

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Audiotom · 01-06-2020, 09:08 PM

The Saints watched the Packers/Vikings MNF game two weeks ago and planned for that team. No killer instinct

TheOak · 01-07-2020, 06:54 AM

Originally Posted by dizzle88

Even if someone did run the wrong route, you cant blame anybody but the ball carrier for a fumble. Brees messed up, people need to accept it.

8 pages and brother I have to ask two things...

- What is your end goal here? What do you want to happen? Will someone agreeing with you give you a better day...

- What are you a fan of? Its obvious that you do not like the coach or QB.. Is the logo appealing? Color scheme.

You aren't commenting with your thoughts, you are driving an agenda.

We are all emotionally drained over the loss but no one here caused that loss and no one here can make us win.

jeanpierre · 01-07-2020, 03:15 PM

jeanpierre · 01-07-2020, 03:20 PM

dizzle88 · 01-07-2020, 03:57 PM

Originally Posted by TheOak

8 pages and brother I have to ask two things...

- What is your end goal here? What do you want to happen? Will someone agreeing with you give you a better day...

- What are you a fan of? Its obvious that you do not like the coach or QB.. Is the logo appealing? Color scheme.

You aren't commenting with your thoughts, you are driving an agenda.

We are all emotionally drained over the loss but no one here caused that loss and no one here can make us win.

No agenda here, I'm just voicing my thoughts. Some people dont like my opinions and that's fine, I'm not in the boat that blames the refs like some others. The only point I'm trying to make is that our team is consistently below average come playoff time and any player / coach no matter their legacy should be held accountable if they play poorly.

That isnt always well received by some, but I'm not verbally abusive to members of the forum like some are.

Rugby Saint II · 01-07-2020, 05:59 PM

The interior O-line is weak. I didn't realize that losing Max Unger to retirement would hurt so much. McCoy is good but he's not seasoned and the inside got little to no push. My twin brother reminded me that I called Peat the Pillsbury doughboy at camp when he showed up out of shape and soft. He never got tough enough in the trenches to suit me. Peat is on his seat more than his feet. We must draft a lineman early and bring another top tier free agent to compete for playing time. Our depth must be better. We can do it. Just keep investing 1st and 2nd round picks in the O-line and give Drew a few more years or his successor time.

The D-line looks good with Onyamata, Cam, Tuttle, Edwards, Davenport, and T-Rex. That's a pretty good core of players. Rankins might be looking at more money than we will offer considering what we have in house.

You win in the trenches and that's where injury took it's toll on us this year. We had good depth but two of our starters were questionable between Peat and Warford. When we signed Warford there was another free agent available who cost more. I wanted him. I've herd he's doing well.

01-06-2020, 04:13 PM	#71
dizzle88 10000 POST CLUB Join Date: Oct 2009 Posts: 11,208	Re: Observations from Saints loss to the Vilings Originally Posted by neugey If I have to blame that fumble on anyone, it was Warford. It's one thing to whiff on a block and allow pressure up the middle. It's another thing to get bull-rushed by a smaller player and end up in your QB's lap when he's back in shotgun. Don't know how that can happen. Or the guy that was carrying the ball away from his body with a defender on his back. Also pretty sure it was Ram that got beat.

01-06-2020, 04:22 PM	#72
K Major Site Donor 2019 Join Date: Jan 2013 Location: Bedford, TX Posts: 24,619 Blog Entries: 3	Re: Observations from Saints loss to the Vilings Originally Posted by dizzle88 Even if someone did run the wrong route, you cant blame anybody but the ball carrier for a fumble. Brees messed up, people need to accept it. But still, any WR running the wrong route ... that's a problem. saintfan likes this.

01-06-2020, 04:29 PM	#73
dizzle88 10000 POST CLUB Join Date: Oct 2009 Posts: 11,208	Re: Observations from Saints loss to the Vilings Originally Posted by K Major But still, any WR running the wrong route ... that's a problem. Yeah it definitely is. Just a further testament to Payton once again failing in the playoffs, it's not just the last 3 seasons. Look at any playoff loss since the Superbowl win, Saints are playoff chokers with Payton.

01-06-2020, 04:39 PM	#74
K Major Site Donor 2019 Join Date: Jan 2013 Location: Bedford, TX Posts: 24,619 Blog Entries: 3	Re: Observations from Saints loss to the Vilings Originally Posted by dizzle88 Yeah it definitely is. Just a further testament to Payton once again failing in the playoffs, it's not just the last 3 seasons. Look at any playoff loss since the Superbowl win, Saints are playoff chokers with Payton. I can't argue against that. 3 consecutive years, 3 consecutive heart break defeats in the post season . Halo, Danno and dam1953 like this.

01-06-2020, 09:08 PM	#75
Audiotom 1000 Posts + Join Date: Sep 2013 Posts: 1,094 Blog Entries: 1	Re: Observations from Saints loss to the Vilings The Saints watched the Packers/Vikings MNF game two weeks ago and planned for that team. No killer instinct Halo likes this.

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TheOak 10000 POST CLUB Join Date: Dec 2009 Location: Cypress Tx. Posts: 19,026	Re: Observations from Saints loss to the Vilings Originally Posted by dizzle88 Even if someone did run the wrong route, you cant blame anybody but the ball carrier for a fumble. Brees messed up, people need to accept it. 8 pages and brother I have to ask two things... - What is your end goal here? What do you want to happen? Will someone agreeing with you give you a better day... - What are you a fan of? Its obvious that you do not like the coach or QB.. Is the logo appealing? Color scheme. You aren't commenting with your thoughts, you are driving an agenda. We are all emotionally drained over the loss but no one here caused that loss and no one here can make us win. saintfan likes this.

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01-07-2020, 03:57 PM	#79
dizzle88 10000 POST CLUB Join Date: Oct 2009 Posts: 11,208	Re: Observations from Saints loss to the Vilings Originally Posted by TheOak 8 pages and brother I have to ask two things... - What is your end goal here? What do you want to happen? Will someone agreeing with you give you a better day... - What are you a fan of? Its obvious that you do not like the coach or QB.. Is the logo appealing? Color scheme. You aren't commenting with your thoughts, you are driving an agenda. We are all emotionally drained over the loss but no one here caused that loss and no one here can make us win. No agenda here, I'm just voicing my thoughts. Some people dont like my opinions and that's fine, I'm not in the boat that blames the refs like some others. The only point I'm trying to make is that our team is consistently below average come playoff time and any player / coach no matter their legacy should be held accountable if they play poorly. That isnt always well received by some, but I'm not verbally abusive to members of the forum like some are. jeanpierre and Rugby Saint II like this.

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Rugby Saint II Bounty Money $$$ Join Date: Oct 2008 Location: 5800 Airline Dr. Metairie, LA. Posts: 24,052	Re: Observations from Saints loss to the Vilings The interior O-line is weak. I didn't realize that losing Max Unger to retirement would hurt so much. McCoy is good but he's not seasoned and the inside got little to no push. My twin brother reminded me that I called Peat the Pillsbury doughboy at camp when he showed up out of shape and soft. He never got tough enough in the trenches to suit me. Peat is on his seat more than his feet. We must draft a lineman early and bring another top tier free agent to compete for playing time. Our depth must be better. We can do it. Just keep investing 1st and 2nd round picks in the O-line and give Drew a few more years or his successor time. The D-line looks good with Onyamata, Cam, Tuttle, Edwards, Davenport, and T-Rex. That's a pretty good core of players. Rankins might be looking at more money than we will offer considering what we have in house. You win in the trenches and that's where injury took it's toll on us this year. We had good depth but two of our starters were questionable between Peat and Warford. When we signed Warford there was another free agent available who cost more. I wanted him. I've herd he's doing well.
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