Observations from Saints loss to the Vilings

jeanpierre · 01-07-2020, 07:38 PM

Originally Posted by dizzle88

No agenda here, I'm just voicing my thoughts. Some people dont like my opinions and that's fine, I'm not in the boat that blames the refs like some others. The only point I'm trying to make is that our team is consistently below average come playoff time and any player / coach no matter their legacy should be held accountable if they play poorly.

That isnt always well received by some, but I'm not verbally abusive to members of the forum like some are.

And that's the zone we should all strive to be...

Audiotom · 01-13-2020, 04:18 PM

Originally Posted by blackangold

We were unpredictable when Teddy was at QB for 5 weeks... last 2 weeks of the regular season were good too but we were playing teams that didn’t need the win at all.

The Saints were very predictable with Teddy. He threw short passes and was tentative to throw farther or tuck down and run. He got better.

The Saints won because everybody showed a sense of urgency.

After the first game with Drew back - everyone breathed a sign of relief based on his immediately being old Brees and took their foot off the gas.

Shame but that is what happened

Audiotom · 01-13-2020, 04:27 PM

Originally Posted by jeanpierre

Quick Hits

Go right to it - we had 'em, we absolutely had 'em, Taysom was killin' 'em and once again, Sean showed everyone it was his team and he was smarter than everyone else...

Don't know if we're not running it enough in practice, but Drew, and even Taysom, underthrew our WRs down the field...

Speaking of deep throws, trusting Ginn this long is all on Payton-Mickster - the guy doesn't fight for the ball and that should not be allowed on the roster...

We won't find out so long as Payton is in New Orleans & Saints Media Muscle Greg Bensel strong-arms our press, but I'd like to know what happened with Lattimore down the stretch, in game, not good...

Took way too long to get Jared Cook going; may be wrong, but I don't recall his first target till the fourth quarter on a brilliant drive...

AJ Klein and Trey Hendrickson took sh*t all year from this fanbase, but both those guys made plays that kept us in the game...

Still believe Onyemata is a better, more reliable, available, DT3 than Rankins, but not having Davenport really hurt; and having two first round picks on IR doesn't get it done in the playoffs...

One more thought on Davenport, it's not on him he was hurt, it was the foolishness in putting two picks into one player when Jeff Ireland has shown he can get it done when he's got the bullets...

Transitioning on that thought, Gardner really stepped up as a rookie and while McCoy played to his billing, Gardener was a gift falling to us, along with Shy Tuttle, who's gonna be big for us...

It's time for offensive line changes; Ramczyk was All-Pro; if McCoy's on a larger market team, he'd be All-Pro; but the rest of these over-paid clowns didn't gave little return on their investment...

We didn't realize it, but the death-blow was not making a WR deal at the trade deadline (KMajor); am told DEN asked for more from NO than SF; no surprise with Payton's reputation on overpaying...

Drew didn't seem to have the same energy, concentration, poise today - it happens; should he shut it down, it'll be a sad commentary on Payton not bringing home more Lombardi hardware with Brees at QB...

Lastly, there are are many QB with diverse strengths - runners, passers; but very few inspire teammates in the heat of battle the way Taysom Hill does; If Brees retires, Taysom should be our guy...

Nice post

We could have had Emmanuel Sanders who has been HUGE for San Francisco. You pay him for one year to get to the dance. Bellichick does this.

Instead SFs weak receiver package is now gold. Totally bone head but hey Mickey Loomis thinks Tre’Quan Smith is good enough. He even said so on WWL.

Ginn doesn’t even try to come back to the ball.

Why they didn’t pull Peat is beyond me.

AsylumGuido · 01-13-2020, 06:03 PM

Originally Posted by Audiotom

Nice post

We could have had Emmanuel Sanders who has been HUGE for San Francisco. You pay him for one year to get to the dance. Bellichick does this.

Instead SFs weak receiver package is now gold. Totally bone head but hey Mickey Loomis thinks Tre’Quan Smith is good enough. He even said so on WWL.

Ginn doesn’t even try to come back to the ball.

Why they didn’t pull Peat is beyond me.

How do you know we could have had Sanders? There are other factors involved.

K Major · 01-13-2020, 06:07 PM

Originally Posted by Audiotom

We could have had Emmanuel Sanders who has been HUGE for San Francisco. You pay him for one year to get to the dance. Bellichick does this.

Huge is an understatement.

Sanders has been a great addition to the Niners team. Pre trade they were good but this addition at WR could very well put them in prime position to hoist the Trophy.

No risk it, no biscuit says Bruce A.

K Major · 01-13-2020, 06:10 PM

Originally Posted by Audiotom

Why they didn’t pull Peat is beyond me.

Stubborn coaches.

Peat was getting abused a lot in a playoff game we had to have.

01-07-2020, 07:38 PM	#81
jeanpierre Site Donor 2018 Join Date: Mar 2008 Location: Thibodaux Posts: 43,543 Blog Entries: 39	Re: Observations from Saints loss to the Vilings Originally Posted by dizzle88 No agenda here, I'm just voicing my thoughts. Some people dont like my opinions and that's fine, I'm not in the boat that blames the refs like some others. The only point I'm trying to make is that our team is consistently below average come playoff time and any player / coach no matter their legacy should be held accountable if they play poorly. That isnt always well received by some, but I'm not verbally abusive to members of the forum like some are. And that's the zone we should all strive to be... Rugby Saint II and dizzle88 like this.

01-13-2020, 04:18 PM	#82
Audiotom 1000 Posts + Join Date: Sep 2013 Posts: 1,094 Blog Entries: 1	Re: Observations from Saints loss to the Vilings Originally Posted by blackangold We were unpredictable when Teddy was at QB for 5 weeks... last 2 weeks of the regular season were good too but we were playing teams that didn’t need the win at all. The Saints were very predictable with Teddy. He threw short passes and was tentative to throw farther or tuck down and run. He got better. The Saints won because everybody showed a sense of urgency. After the first game with Drew back - everyone breathed a sign of relief based on his immediately being old Brees and took their foot off the gas. Shame but that is what happened

01-13-2020, 04:27 PM	#83
Audiotom 1000 Posts + Join Date: Sep 2013 Posts: 1,094 Blog Entries: 1	Re: Observations from Saints loss to the Vilings Originally Posted by jeanpierre Quick Hits Go right to it - we had 'em, we absolutely had 'em, Taysom was killin' 'em and once again, Sean showed everyone it was his team and he was smarter than everyone else... Don't know if we're not running it enough in practice, but Drew, and even Taysom, underthrew our WRs down the field... Speaking of deep throws, trusting Ginn this long is all on Payton-Mickster - the guy doesn't fight for the ball and that should not be allowed on the roster... We won't find out so long as Payton is in New Orleans & Saints Media Muscle Greg Bensel strong-arms our press, but I'd like to know what happened with Lattimore down the stretch, in game, not good... Took way too long to get Jared Cook going; may be wrong, but I don't recall his first target till the fourth quarter on a brilliant drive... *AJ Klein and Trey Hendrickson took sht all year from this fanbase, but both those guys made plays that kept us in the game... Still believe Onyemata is a better, more reliable, available, DT3 than Rankins, but not having Davenport really hurt; and having two first round picks on IR doesn't get it done in the playoffs... One more thought on Davenport, it's not on him he was hurt, it was the foolishness in putting two picks into one player when Jeff Ireland has shown he can get it done when he's got the bullets... Transitioning on that thought, Gardner really stepped up as a rookie and while McCoy played to his billing, Gardener was a gift falling to us, along with Shy Tuttle, who's gonna be big for us... It's time for offensive line changes; Ramczyk was All-Pro; if McCoy's on a larger market team, he'd be All-Pro; but the rest of these over-paid clowns didn't gave little return on their investment... We didn't realize it, but the death-blow was not making a WR deal at the trade deadline (KMajor); am told DEN asked for more from NO than SF; no surprise with Payton's reputation on overpaying...** Drew didn't seem to have the same energy, concentration, poise today - it happens; should he shut it down, it'll be a sad commentary on Payton not bringing home more Lombardi hardware with Brees at QB... Lastly, there are are many QB with diverse strengths - runners, passers; but very few inspire teammates in the heat of battle the way Taysom Hill does; If Brees retires, Taysom should be our guy... Nice post We could have had Emmanuel Sanders who has been HUGE for San Francisco. You pay him for one year to get to the dance. Bellichick does this. Instead SFs weak receiver package is now gold. Totally bone head but hey Mickey Loomis thinks Tre’Quan Smith is good enough. He even said so on WWL. Ginn doesn’t even try to come back to the ball. Why they didn’t pull Peat is beyond me. K Major likes this.

01-13-2020, 06:03 PM	#84
AsylumGuido 10000 POST CLUB Join Date: Sep 2007 Location: Bossier City, LA Posts: 24,392	Re: Observations from Saints loss to the Vilings Originally Posted by Audiotom Nice post We could have had Emmanuel Sanders who has been HUGE for San Francisco. You pay him for one year to get to the dance. Bellichick does this. Instead SFs weak receiver package is now gold. Totally bone head but hey Mickey Loomis thinks Tre’Quan Smith is good enough. He even said so on WWL. Ginn doesn’t even try to come back to the ball. Why they didn’t pull Peat is beyond me. How do you know we could have had Sanders? There are other factors involved.

01-13-2020, 06:07 PM	#85
K Major Site Donor 2019 Join Date: Jan 2013 Location: Bedford, TX Posts: 24,026 Blog Entries: 3	Re: Observations from Saints loss to the Vilings Originally Posted by Audiotom We could have had Emmanuel Sanders who has been HUGE for San Francisco. You pay him for one year to get to the dance. Bellichick does this. Huge is an understatement. Sanders has been a great addition to the Niners team. Pre trade they were good but this addition at WR could very well put them in prime position to hoist the Trophy. No risk it, no biscuit says Bruce A.

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01-13-2020, 06:10 PM	#86
K Major Site Donor 2019 Join Date: Jan 2013 Location: Bedford, TX Posts: 24,026 Blog Entries: 3	Re: Observations from Saints loss to the Vilings Originally Posted by Audiotom Why they didn’t pull Peat is beyond me. Stubborn coaches. Peat was getting abused a lot in a playoff game we had to have.