Re: Al Riveron explains why there was no OPI foul in final play of Saints-Vikings
 

Just gonna leave this right here...

Re: Al Riveron explains why there was no OPI foul in final play of Saints-Vikings
 

I was at that game!

Re: Al Riveron explains why there was no OPI foul in final play of Saints-Vikings
 

Pat McAfee has been critical of Al Riveron all year. Some of the stuff that has happened has been very suspicious under Riverons watch.

Theirs also this snip I found on wiki:

On 19 September 2019, New England Patriots quarterback Tom Brady tweeted that he was turning off the Thursday Night Football game because he couldn't watch the "ridiculous penalties" for offensive holding[16][17] Two days later, Riveron held a conference call with 17 NFL referees to discuss the frequency with which holding was being called. The next day, holding penalties were called an average of 2.9 times per game, down from a rate of 5.7 times per game over the previous three weeks, leading to speculation that Brady may have influenced how NFL referees officiate games.[18]

Re: Al Riveron explains why there was no OPI foul in final play of Saints-Vikings
 

Al Riveron is nothing more than Roger's mouthpiece and as such is a SIGNIFICANT part of a very real problem for the NFL.

The rules in college are far more restrictive and you don't hear anyone talking about the college refs over-officiating and making up calls (or deliberately missing them) outside typical fan reaction.

Anyone who watches the NFL much at all and understands football at even a basic level can see the refs are highly inconsistent at best. Personally I believe the league does what it can do to control the outcome. I'd argue the point with anyone because to me you'd have to be blind not to see it. The Saints aren't the only victims, just the most visible because of the very high-profile calls made (and deliberately not made) against them.

The same excuse was used against the Saints that was used against Seattle just a week earlier on a play that was clearly PI and clearly determined the outcome of the game. Al said in both cases it didn't rise to the level of a foul, and it both cases it is clear there was very deliberate PI.

You either see it or you won't allow yourself to admit it. I don't want to think the NFL is rigged, but you have to work hard to watch games without coming away with the conclusion that, well, the NFL is rigged.

Re: Al Riveron explains why there was no OPI foul in final play of Saints-Vikings
 

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Let's go ForeverFan, step up your game, this situation is ripe with opportunities...

Re: Al Riveron explains why there was no OPI foul in final play of Saints-Vikings
 

Re: Al Riveron explains why there was no OPI foul in final play of Saints-Vikings
 

Bad calls happen. Refs are human. In the NFL it is systemic. That's hard to argue.

Re: Al Riveron explains why there was no OPI foul in final play of Saints-Vikings
 

NFL needs a better system.

Alberto should have been fired a long time ago.

Re: Al Riveron explains why there was no OPI foul in final play of Saints-Vikings
 

Like Goodell, maybe he knows too much?

Re: Al Riveron explains why there was no OPI foul in final play of Saints-Vikings
 

Defensive play calling in OT really hurt. P-Rob in man coverage on Thielen on the big pass play, really? Then PJ on Rudolf in man coverage for the TD.
Score happened right in front of our seats and when Rudolf lined up with PJ across from him, I told my wife that's where the ball was going. 2 big mismatches at the wrong time.

Re: Al Riveron explains why there was no OPI foul in final play of Saints-Vikings
 

saintfan is 100% right about the uneven calls and obvious favoritism by the refs and the league. I'm a conspiracy theorist and I can't believe that the entire world doesn't see that this sport is influenced. Oh yeah, gambling is legal on football now. Maybe that will help the officiating!:rolleyes:

Re: Al Riveron explains why there was no OPI foul in final play of Saints-Vikings
 

Just because you're paranoid doesn't mean that they aren't out to get you....

Re: Al Riveron explains why there was no OPI foul in final play of Saints-Vikings
 

So you saw the push off up close then eh?

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Re: Al Riveron explains why there was no OPI foul in final play of Saints-Vikings
 

Push off was missed ... without a doubt.

The biggest issue I have with this is that Alberto didn't find it necessary to stop and review the sequence of events ( PI as defined in the NFL rule book) as if this wasn't a playoff game. C'mon man.

From my perspective, the game was lost well before this play starting with Coach and his game plan. You know the usual stuff ... lack of a consistent run game, gadget plays & having to watch Latavius Murray standing next to him on the sideline on 3rd and short.

Re: Al Riveron explains why there was no OPI foul in final play of Saints-Vikings
 

But the game WASN'T lost, despite our shortcomings . At the end of the day, you're going to get phantom holding, or hands to the face, or a clear PI called (or not called) that affects the outcome.

Roger doesn't let them play anymore. The refs control at best or influence at worst the outcome which is directed/scripted.

So, we can fumble. Everybody does. We can hold. Everybody does. Teams are more even now talent-wise than ever before. When the game is on the line, the same refs that will spot a half-hold or a hand to someones neck (and flag it for hands to the face) from 30 yards away won't throw the flag and "miss" what is obvious and happening 5 yards from where they're standing? C'mon man.

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Look it was a bad call but not near as bad as Payton’s play calling. He forced the ball to AK. So many other options in this offense. I prefer Murray anyway. He runs harder. The guy gets no respect.

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I agree that Coach's play-calling was bad. However that is not an excuse for the ref's and the league not doing their job.

Does anyone think that if the Saints did this to the Vikings, or if this happened to the Patriots, Chiefs, Packers or whatever team is the flavor of the daythat it wouldn't have been called?

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If Payton would just change his stubborn asre ways and to just do what u have to do to win. Zimmer did what he had to do and out smarted Patton this time but he changed his defense and it absolutely floored Payton’s game plan. And yes it depends who’s playing who gets the PI call I saw this call this year his arm was extended fullly it’s pass int.


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Bad call or not(I think it was for the record) their playing this week in Green Bay and we're not. I'm hoping they tear Green Bay a new one, not because I like them but hate Green Bay with a passion. Wouldn't hurt my feelings if they make it to the Superbowl and lose to the Chiefs( got to root for Andy Ried) and draft 31st.More ways to skin a cat than 1.

Re: Al Riveron explains why there was no OPI foul in final play of Saints-Vikings
 

Vikes are playing in San Fran but I see your point . They beat us fair and I’ll leave out square.


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My bad I got carried away!! Wishful thinking!!

Re: Al Riveron explains why there was no OPI foul in final play of Saints-Vikings
 

Online Petition, of course...

Would like to Thank the idiot that proposed this and only managed 300 signatures which now emboldens Riveron and the NFL...

Change.org: Fire Al Riveron, Fix The NFL Officiating!

Re: Al Riveron explains why there was no OPI foul in final play of Saints-Vikings
 

Not a big fan of Seifert's politically correctness, white-washing of the NFL's willful neglect of officiating, but he negotiates to several correct points in this article...

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Re: Al Riveron explains why there was no OPI foul in final play of Saints-Vikings
 

I’m a huge college football fan for a certain team and there’s only 1 play that still pisses me off from 7 years ago due to officials . The freakin nfl is a complete joke week after week it’s all that we see and hear all season long. It’s fixed period. Wipe out them asre wipes and start over. Dump this ballsless al Riveron sucking on goodells balls and return to normal . That is all


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Define the standard? These people aren't idiots. Any concern about getting the calls "Right" on the field is secondary to (a) perception of the league and (b) using the rules to influence the outcome.

This is no conspiracy theory. This is reality to anyone who has eyes and watches the games. The league will, ultimately, blame the refs, and token steps will be made to placate the public, but in the end nothing will change because Roger needs certain TV markets more than others.

I'm sorry if some of you refuse to believe it. It sucks. I hate it. That doesn't make it any less accurate.

Re: Al Riveron explains why there was no OPI foul in final play of Saints-Vikings
 

Can’t wait till congress gets involved this shiiit needs to change and when some big gambling politician looses his as in Vegas on a no. Call u see a change soon grant it . I heard something that makes me think we need to start buying knock off nfl everything quit putting more money in there wallets . I myself been buying for my kids and grandkids for years there crap apparall no more I’m sick of goodell and these greedy owners . That don’t give a crap about the outcome of a game


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Microcosm of our society. Truth isn't truth. Facts aren't facts. Reality isn't reality. It's all about what you believe, perceive, or desire the truth, the facts and reality to be.

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Re: Al Riveron explains why there was no OPI foul in final play of Saints-Vikings
 

Im not sure that I think they control outcomes of the games as far as them helping who they want in the Super Bowl but I know for a fact that they have teams that they blatantly screw because I see it every week. It all started with Roger and the so called Bountygate. Refs have each others back and its obvious when nearly every 50 50 call goes against your team.

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I went back and re-watched this game today.

That was a tick-tacky call. The defender initiated contact and Rudolph shoved back. Again - shiny object being waved in front of your face here and distracting you all from the bigger picture.

I'm glad it wasn't called and can see where it possibly could've went either way. It's really a tick-tacky call being over-analyzed and again; shiny object waved in front of your face as a distraction. I kinda wish the Cousins bomb would've went for a TD, then we wouldn't be having this conversation. We always lose on big plays and that would've been it. It's humiliating but at this point, I've become numb to it. Speaking of that bomb pass play, where was the safety on the coverage to help out? No where to be seen. Yet again, Dennis Allen's schemes helping us lose.

7 pages in this thread complaining about refs... when you guys going to finally get it and start criticizing Payton, Allen and Brees?????? It's just a small minority of us that do and we're often shouted down for it, or like on SR forums and Canal Street Chronicles blogs, you get banned for it. They're the ones who lost this game for us. It was a miracle we even got to OT after how poorly we played, but this game was lost on the Brees' fumble as a nail in the coffin. Taysom Hill was single-handedly taking that game over, then Payton puts Brees back in for a passing play and he fumbles.

In my re-watch of this game, I don't know why Payton didn't attack the Vikings by rushing up the middle. Then again, we rushed only 17 times in the entire game and that is counting Brees scrambling. Murray had some good runs, but Payton kept force-feeding Kamara and he didn't bother taking advantage up the middle. Over 20+ minutes time of possession on the clock and could only score 20 points. That's on Payton and Brees, no one else.

There were mismatches all over the place for us and we didn't take advantage of any of them. And now we blame it on the refs.

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Payton has been force feeding Kamara and neglecting Murray since the preseason.

Kamara ended up injured just as feared, and we lost a few games because he refused to play the hot hand in Latavius.

We been lamenting that since August

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Don’t understand Ching u said ur glad it wasn’t called ? I take the loss on a lot what u said but to say ur GLAD it wasn’t called is a cop out.


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Re: Al Riveron explains why there was no OPI foul in final play of Saints-Vikings
 

It's really a tick-tacky call being over-analyzed and again; shiny object waved in front of your face as a distraction.

So happy shiny objects waved in front of YOUR face don't distract YOU EITHER. The view is nice from up here on OUR HIGH HORSE isn't it? Only WE KNOW what's really going on and who is to blame!!! :rofl: :rofl: :rofl: :rofl: :rofl: :rofl:

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It's rigged I tell ya'!!! :argue: