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WhoDat!656 01-05-2020 04:58 PM

Al Riveron explains why there was no OPI foul in final play of Saints-Vikings
 
https://saintswire.usatoday.com/2020...-nfl-playoffs/

RefsRobbedUs 01-05-2020 05:00 PM

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A straight extended arm to the defenders chest isn't a foul? Would two arms be a foul?
Hilarious

foreverfan 01-05-2020 05:07 PM

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Total push off... When is the draft?

http://m.quickmeme.com/img/e9/e971ee...b6db0f8dfa.jpg

WillMacKenzie 01-05-2020 05:10 PM

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Nearly knocking PJ Williams off his feet isn’t a foul — he must be thrown cleanly to the turf

saintfan 01-05-2020 05:11 PM

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It was a deliberate non-call because Roger. It's not even up for debate.

Rsanders24 01-05-2020 05:17 PM

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There is too much subjectivity in the penalties. For years the league has said that they look for full extension of the arm. Well that was a clear extension and by a player with 6 inches of height advantage.

K Major 01-05-2020 05:21 PM

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Obvious push off that should have been called. Even Dungy and Harrison agreed.

But this game was lost well before that play.

saintfan 01-05-2020 05:22 PM

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Originally Posted by K Major (Post 875934)
Obvious push off that should have been called. Even Dungy and Harrison agreed.

But this game was lost well before that play.

Yep. CLEARLY PI. The game wasn't lost. Once again the refs interfered to tip the scales. Roger has to go. Let's ban Roger and Dizzle and restore order to the universe.

neugey 01-05-2020 05:26 PM

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Wasn't that flagrant of a push-off. Small potatoes compared to what Michael Irvin used to get away with. Don't want to see us focused on the league, we have draft and scout well and reload and put it behind us.

Vrillon82 01-05-2020 05:27 PM

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It was lost at the coin flip into OT. Viking fans can’t cry about not getting the ball in 2009 now.

WhoDat!656 01-05-2020 05:35 PM

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Originally Posted by neugey (Post 875937)
Wasn't that flagrant of a push-off. Small potatoes compared to what Michael Irvin used to get away with. Don't want to see us focused on the league, we have draft and scout well and reload and put it behind us.

https://operations.nfl.com/the-rules...-interference/

RefsRobbedUs 01-05-2020 05:39 PM

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Originally Posted by WhoDat!656 (Post 875943)

Maybe if PJ flopped they call it. It's funny the Brandon Marshall PI was one arm extended, the defender then slipped.

nola_swammi 01-05-2020 06:38 PM

Re: Al Riveron explains why there was no OPI foul in final play of Saints-Vikings
 
Payton knew that al “the puppet” couldn’t be trusted that’s why he said it should be a committee of three on pass interference call

darksoul35 01-05-2020 06:45 PM

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It was definitely PI but who is shocked with the non call?

bobdog86 01-05-2020 07:00 PM

Re: Al Riveron explains why there was no OPI foul in final play of Saints-Vikings
 
Sorry, but if that went against us...then we’d be saying, they haven’t called that all year, why now? Or, hell there’s always hand checking, they should have let it go. I’m more pissed about being beaten in every aspect of the game. Cousins did what he was supposed to do, not lose the game, there defense outplayed us significantly...can’t expect that call and then be pissed that we don’t get the call, and Then worse blame that non call for us losing the game. Pick one of about 20 plays where we sharted ourselves.

saintsfan1976 01-05-2020 07:03 PM

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There's a dozen plays I'd like to have back and that call isn't even close to one of them.

Rell&Gold 01-05-2020 07:03 PM

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That TD is the worse call of them all

Vrillon82 01-05-2020 07:04 PM

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Originally Posted by saintsfan1976 (Post 876001)
There's a dozen plays I'd like to have back and that call isn't even close to one of them.

Brees fumble the biggest, missed fg. Thatís the 2 most critical.

bobdog86 01-05-2020 07:07 PM

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Originally Posted by Vrillon82 (Post 876004)
Brees fumble the biggest, missed fg. Thatís the 2 most critical.

40 yard penalty on punt return, pinned us deep that was another.

st thomas 01-05-2020 11:39 PM

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Originally Posted by WhoDat!656 (Post 875909)



Al riverron cant seem to get up from under goodells desk and grab his own balls to busy lickin rogís asre



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WhoDat!656 01-06-2020 12:00 AM

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Originally Posted by Vrillon82 (Post 876004)
Brees fumble the biggest, missed fg. Thatís the 2 most critical.

The TE not being set on the fake punt and Kimara moving as Brees spiked the ball before tying the game and costing the Saints 10 seconds.

CHA_CHING 01-06-2020 12:28 AM

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This is what is wrong with this team.

Stop blaming non-calls and refs and start looking at Payton, the play calling, our 40 year old QB who played like trash, and Dennis Allen's defense giving up big plays.

Seriously LOL, even if OPI is called, who really thinks the Vikings wouldn't punch it in the next play? Cook would've busted off a big run, or Cousins burns us with another pass. Never mind that they completed a 40+ yard bomb to get down there to the end zone.

We were going to lose this game after Brees' fumble down in the red zone. It was a miracle we even got to OT.

burningmetal 01-06-2020 03:55 AM

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Originally Posted by CHA_CHING (Post 876078)
This is what is wrong with this team.

Stop blaming non-calls and refs and start looking at Payton, the play calling, our 40 year old QB who played like trash, and Dennis Allen's defense giving up big plays.

Seriously LOL, even if OPI is called, who really thinks the Vikings wouldn't punch it in the next play? Cook would've busted off a big run, or Cousins burns us with another pass. Never mind that they completed a 40+ yard bomb to get down there to the end zone.

We were going to lose this game after Brees' fumble down in the red zone. It was a miracle we even got to OT.

I agree that there is more than enough blame to go around. But I don't agree with your opinion that the non call was no big deal, because you assume they would have scored on the next play.

That was a third down pass from the 4, and the penalty would have backed them up nearly to the 20. That's hardly some ho-hum "they'll score anyway" kind of situation. That sort of hyperbole makes me nauseated.

OldMaid 01-06-2020 04:11 AM

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Originally Posted by burningmetal (Post 876087)
I agree that there is more than enough blame to go around. But I don't agree with your opinion that the non call was no big deal, because you assume they would have scored on the next play.

That was a third down pass from the 4, and the penalty would have backed them up nearly to the 20. That's hardly some ho-hum "they'll score anyway" kind of situation. That sort of hyperbole makes me nauseated.



Yes, but what can , could the Saints have done ?
It seems they sure get many ref calls and flags, fairly and unfairly.

Saints knew this.
They know they cannot make too many mistakes. They knew they have to capitalize as much as possible because of the situation they cannot do anything about.

The whole team , minus some bright spots, just was off today.

burningmetal 01-06-2020 04:22 AM

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Originally Posted by OldMaid (Post 876089)
Yes, but what can , could the Saints have done ?
It seems they sure get many ref calls and flags, fairly and unfairly.

Saints knew this.
They know they cannot make too many mistakes. They know they have to capitalize as much as possible because of the situation they cannot do anything about.

The whole team , minus some bright spots, just were off today.

I'm not denying the many mistakes the team made, at all. I'm addressing what the poster said about the no-call, and how the Saints would have let them score anyway. I just fail to see how a would-be 3rd and goal from around the 20 would have been some sure thing for the Vikings.

claus808 01-06-2020 04:22 AM

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Originally Posted by Vrillon82 (Post 876004)
Brees fumble the biggest, missed fg. Thatís the 2 most critical.

No. The missed TD after Thielen fumbled. Felt it once we kicked it was gonna be rough.

FinSaint 01-06-2020 04:49 AM

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Didn't Cook do the same kind of push off on his one-handed TD catch against the Titans?!

That wasn't called an OPI either.

SaintFanQ 01-06-2020 05:13 AM

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We were beaten on the day by the better team, its a simple as that! A lot of people were writing the Vikings off and saying we would beat them with ease! I didn't agree and unfortunately I was proved correct! You don't get into the playoff if you are not a good team! The Vikings did their homework on us and we couldn't find an answer to it! Roll on next season! WHO DAT!!!

vpheughan 01-06-2020 07:03 AM

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OVERCONFIDENT EGGSPURTS!!!

Where's all the "What's the weather forecast for Green Bay" now? Hmmmm?

WhoDat!656 01-06-2020 07:09 AM

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Originally Posted by FinSaint (Post 876097)
Didn't Cook do the same kind of push off on his one-handed TD catch against the Titans?!

That wasn't called an OPI either.

The difference is Cook didn't get any separation from the defender.

st thomas 01-06-2020 09:34 AM

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Originally Posted by vpheughan (Post 876107)
OVERCONFIDENT EGGSPURTS!!!

Where's all the "What's the weather forecast for Green Bay" now? Hmmmm?



Iím the one that said the vikes were playing possum against Green Bay but I also said I wasnít worried about beating Green Bay it was the refs in Green Bay


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hitta 01-06-2020 10:00 AM

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Whether the call was overturned isn't the thing that drives me with rage, it's the fact that they couldn't even take the time to look at it.

jeanpierre 01-06-2020 10:20 AM

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Originally Posted by hitta (Post 876149)
Whether the call was overturned isn't the thing that drives me with rage, it's the fact that they couldn't even take the time to look at it.

And they never were...

That ole' feeling started for me when the NFL offices denied the Saints request for the color rush jerseys...

While the color rush is not my favorite, though I like theirs best of all the league, when the league denies you something they initially pushed gave me pause...

The call, or non-call, that p*ssed me off most was when Kamara was in the grasp of a tackle and another Viking took a head-shot...

And this has happened before and yet it keeps happening; is Payton sending this film in to lobby pre-game as other teams do or neaux?

FinSaint 01-06-2020 10:28 AM

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Originally Posted by WhoDat!656 (Post 876109)
The difference is Cook didn't get any separation from the defender.

That's rather subjective, which is the difficulty with these calls.

FinSaint 01-06-2020 10:34 AM

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Originally Posted by jeanpierre (Post 876157)
The call, or non-call, that p*ssed me off most was when Kamara was in the grasp of a tackle and another Viking took a head-shot...


...and Aikman was like "that was a clean hit with the shoulder" :D

a. Rhodes hit Kamara's head with his helmet, not his shoulder

b. You aren't allowed to target the other player's head even if you lead with the shoulder

Rsanders24 01-06-2020 10:41 AM

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Originally Posted by FinSaint (Post 876158)
That's rather subjective, which is the difficulty with these calls.

There was nothing difficult about that call yesterday though. That was the textbook definition and should have at least warranted a look. That was the game ending play. With clear video of the push off using full extension of the arm.

You owe that to the players and fans simply for the integrity of the league. What would it have hurt to just simply say we are going to take a look at it.

I will say that with the way we played for 3 quarters of the game we didnít deserve to win but use the rule that you implemented.

K Major 01-06-2020 10:47 AM

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Yep.

Not to even "look" at the sequence of events in a playoff game was ridiculous.

Big fat slap in the face from the league to the New Orleans Saints.

st thomas 01-06-2020 10:49 AM

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They look they have to call it plain and simple donít look no problem plain and simple. It sucks but weíre getting used to it


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nola_swammi 01-06-2020 10:56 AM

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Originally Posted by FinSaint (Post 876159)
...and Aikman was like "that was a clean hit with the shoulder" :D

a. Rhodes hit Kamara's head with his helmet, not his shoulder

b. You aren't allowed to target the other player's head even if you lead with the shoulder

Aikman is a joke as commentator.

jeanpierre 01-06-2020 10:34 PM

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Originally Posted by FinSaint (Post 876159)
...and Aikman was like "that was a clean hit with the shoulder" :D

a. Rhodes hit Kamara's head with his helmet, not his shoulder

b. You aren't allowed to target the other player's head even if you lead with the shoulder

Aikman still has butt-hurt from that 28-0 drubbing the Saints Dome Patrol gave him in his NFL debut, 1989, Wk 1...

Cowboys never played the Saints during their 90s run, avoiding the Dome Patrol after that ass kicking...


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