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Rugby Saint II 01-07-2020 12:15 PM

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saintfan is 100% right about the uneven calls and obvious favoritism by the refs and the league. I'm a conspiracy theorist and I can't believe that the entire world doesn't see that this sport is influenced. Oh yeah, gambling is legal on football now. Maybe that will help the officiating!:rolleyes:

dam1953 01-07-2020 12:31 PM

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Originally Posted by Rugby Saint II (Post 876383)
saintfan is 100% right about the uneven calls and obvious favoritism by the refs and the league. I'm a conspiracy theorist and I can't believe that the entire world doesn't see that this sport is influenced. Oh yeah, gambling is legal on football now. Maybe that will help the officiating!:rolleyes:

Just because you're paranoid doesn't mean that they aren't out to get you....

saintfan 01-07-2020 01:24 PM

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Originally Posted by Budsdrinker (Post 876366)
Defensive play calling in OT really hurt. P-Rob in man coverage on Thielen on the big pass play, really? Then PJ on Rudolf in man coverage for the TD.
Score happened right in front of our seats and when Rudolf lined up with PJ across from him, I told my wife that's where the ball was going. 2 big mismatches at the wrong time.

So you saw the push off up close then eh?

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K Major 01-07-2020 02:34 PM

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Originally Posted by saintfan (Post 876404)
So you saw the push off up close then eh?

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Push off was missed ... without a doubt.

The biggest issue I have with this is that Alberto didn't find it necessary to stop and review the sequence of events ( PI as defined in the NFL rule book) as if this wasn't a playoff game. C'mon man.

From my perspective, the game was lost well before this play starting with Coach and his game plan. You know the usual stuff ... lack of a consistent run game, gadget plays & having to watch Latavius Murray standing next to him on the sideline on 3rd and short.

saintfan 01-07-2020 02:46 PM

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Originally Posted by K Major (Post 876422)
Push off was missed ... without a doubt.

The biggest issue I have with this is that Alberto didn't find it necessary to stop and review the sequence of events as if this wasn't a playoff game. C'mon man.

From my perspective, the game was lost well before this play starting with Coach and his game plan. You know the usual stuff ... lack of a consistent run game, gadget plays & having to watch Latavius Murray standing next to him on the sideline on 3rd and short.

But the game WASN'T lost, despite our shortcomings . At the end of the day, you're going to get phantom holding, or hands to the face, or a clear PI called (or not called) that affects the outcome.

Roger doesn't let them play anymore. The refs control at best or influence at worst the outcome which is directed/scripted.

So, we can fumble. Everybody does. We can hold. Everybody does. Teams are more even now talent-wise than ever before. When the game is on the line, the same refs that will spot a half-hold or a hand to someones neck (and flag it for hands to the face) from 30 yards away won't throw the flag and "miss" what is obvious and happening 5 yards from where they're standing? C'mon man.

voodooido 01-07-2020 10:46 PM

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Look it was a bad call but not near as bad as Payton’s play calling. He forced the ball to AK. So many other options in this offense. I prefer Murray anyway. He runs harder. The guy gets no respect.

WhoDat!656 01-08-2020 07:42 AM

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Originally Posted by voodooido (Post 876457)
Look it was a bad call but not near as bad as Paytonís play calling. He forced the ball to AK. So many other options in this offense. I prefer Murray anyway. He runs harder. The guy gets no respect.

I agree that Coach's play-calling was bad. However that is not an excuse for the ref's and the league not doing their job.

Does anyone think that if the Saints did this to the Vikings, or if this happened to the Patriots, Chiefs, Packers or whatever team is the flavor of the daythat it wouldn't have been called?

st thomas 01-08-2020 08:14 AM

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Originally Posted by WhoDat!656 (Post 876465)
I agree that Coach's play-calling was bad. However that is not an excuse for the ref's and the league not doing their job.



Does anyone think that if the Saints did this to the Vikings, or if this happened to the Patriots, Chiefs, Packers or whatever team is the flavor of the daythat it wouldn't have been called?



If Payton would just change his stubborn asre ways and to just do what u have to do to win. Zimmer did what he had to do and out smarted Patton this time but he changed his defense and it absolutely floored Paytonís game plan. And yes it depends whoís playing who gets the PI call I saw this call this year his arm was extended fullly itís pass int.


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halloween 65 01-08-2020 08:28 AM

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Bad call or not(I think it was for the record) their playing this week in Green Bay and we're not. I'm hoping they tear Green Bay a new one, not because I like them but hate Green Bay with a passion. Wouldn't hurt my feelings if they make it to the Superbowl and lose to the Chiefs( got to root for Andy Ried) and draft 31st.More ways to skin a cat than 1.

st thomas 01-08-2020 08:32 AM

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Originally Posted by halloween 65 (Post 876470)
Bad call or not(I think it was for the record) their playing this week in Green Bay and we're not. I'm hoping they tear Green Bay a new one, not because I like them but hate Green Bay with a passion. Wouldn't hurt my feelings if they make it to the Superbowl and lose to the Chiefs( got to root for Andy Ried) and draft 31st.More ways to skin a cat than 1.



Vikes are playing in San Fran but I see your point . They beat us fair and Iíll leave out square.


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