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this is a discussion within the Saints Community Forum; Originally Posted by saintsfan1976 When it comes to intermediate routes, Brees is still elite. I'd rather have two Lance Moore type WRs (see San Fran) than another "deep threat" like Tedd Ginn. So yes, upgrade the line. Upgrade CB and ...
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Originally Posted by saintsfan1976
This is my point. Even without the deep ball Brees can still be really good to great with intermediate routes. If Payton want upgrade at those particular positions on the O it want matter if Brees stays or not. If he does and can actually stick to running the ball we'll be hard to control on the O side. Most people on here agree about Brees losing the deep ball. But he can still be one of the best game managers in the game if Payton gives up his quick strike thinking. If not Brees needs to really think about his future in a Saints uniform.
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THIS is a guy who was too old to play football.
![]() This is not. ![]() I remember people B****ing about Archie. Good Lord, people. Here are some grips for you. ![]() ... |
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Re: I Want Drew Brees Back IF.......
Originally Posted by K Major
2020 could be an historic WR draft. We may get TWO! And if so we cut bait with one of the others.
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I want Brees back if The N.O.Saints still play in the N.O Superdome and if SeanP and his staff are still here.
Just let him retire here. In the meantime, start drafting and trading. This is a subject just no one here wants to talk about. Time is coming up for the Saints , entire team, and coaching staff to change. Leave. Saints regroup. No one wants these good times to end. It has been really exciting. The 10 years,overall, of SP and his staff . Good times . Unbelievable times no one ever thought would for all the awful. When it was awful, we still thought was good. People made their own fun. Saints won a game. One game in 1980 or 1981. Hey, at least they won a game. We were happy. The 8-8, 9-7 years , ahhhh,that was it. You know the rest. I am sorry for posting a negative. |
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Sometimes we have knee jerk ideas that we should hear read back to ourselves in a different wording.
We have people that want to get rid of statistically the most accurate passer in the league for 0.02% of his throws. Assuming a best possible case scenario I used Dak Prescott as he has the most 40+ yard passes at 16 which is 0.02% of his passes. Less than 1 pass per game is why we want to replace our QB... let that sink in. They want to get rid of a QB for an interception, the same QB that has the best TD/Int ratio for the season. |
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Originally Posted by TheOak
It's not the 40 yard bombs that we need, it's efficiency for passes that are 20+ yards out.![]()
You can see through the charts here https://nextgenstats.nfl.com/charts/...rees/BRE229498 that Drew really struggled this year to get the ball down the field. I wish they broke it down to passes of 15+ yards, because if you look at the game charts you can see once he hits the 15+ yard mark it goes to ****. In the 2019 total chart it's easy to see the deficiency, and although it shows some success throwing to the right and deep, he only had a few passes thrown that way all year (numbers are skewed). |
The Saints are 0-42 when running the ball less than 15 times in a game.
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False, he hit Cooks on MULTIPLE deep balls here. Denver Carolina New England etc....stop making up stories
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Originally Posted by blackangold
What the chart shows is passer rating compared to the rest of the league. Not arm strength or ability.![]()
What it shows:
Considering your interpretation of that chart. Please tell me your thoughts on Teddy Bridgewater? https://nextgenstats.nfl.com/charts/...19/all/qb-grid Considering your interpretation of the chart. Please tell me what you see from all the QBs in the league compared to Drew? With a few exceptions all QBs have a lane preference after 40 yards. https://nextgenstats.nfl.com/charts/list/qb-grid Play around that site and you will find more. Like 4 of the 7 fastest sacks in Wild Card Weekend were Minnesota sacking Drew because of our craptastic o-line play.. What option isn't in the glorious "why we lost poll" because we got our ass beat in the trenches and it isn't there because a large majority of fans do not understand more than one position if they truly understand any. https://nextgenstats.nfl.com/stats/t...-sacks/2019/18 This one shows that Teddy's longest Completion and Drew's longest completion are only 2.5 yards appart https://nextgenstats.nfl.com/stats/p...d-air-distance You will also find that Drew has the second fastest time to throw.. Even though a lot of people say he holds on to the ball too long. https://nextgenstats.nfl.com/stats/p...-time-to-throw On Wild Card Weekend Drew had the fastest TT and if I recall had 10 pressures, 4-5 hits, 3 sacks.. https://nextgenstats.nfl.com/stats/p...-time-to-throw I do not go rummaging through stats to prove my idea, I go through everything I can find and see what the story tells me. ![]() |
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