I Want Drew Brees Back IF.......

TheOak · 01-14-2020, 01:15 PM

Sometimes we have knee jerk ideas that we should hear read back to ourselves in a different wording.

We have people that want to get rid of statistically the most accurate passer in the league for 0.02% of his throws.

Assuming a best possible case scenario I used Dak Prescott as he has the most 40+ yard passes at 16 which is 0.02% of his passes.

Less than 1 pass per game is why we want to replace our QB... let that sink in.

They want to get rid of a QB for an interception, the same QB that has the best TD/Int ratio for the season.

blackangold · 01-14-2020, 01:51 PM

Originally Posted by TheOak

Sometimes we have knee jerk ideas that we should hear read back to ourselves in a different wording.

We have people that want to get rid of statistically the most accurate passer in the league for 0.02% of his throws.

Assuming a best possible case scenario I used Dak Prescott as he has the most 40+ yard passes at 16 which is 0.02% of his passes.

Less than 1 pass per game is why we want to replace our QB... let that sink in.

They want to get rid of a QB for an interception, the same QB that has the best TD/Int ratio for the season.

It's not the 40 yard bombs that we need, it's efficiency for passes that are 20+ yards out.

You can see through the charts here https://nextgenstats.nfl.com/charts/...rees/BRE229498 that Drew really struggled this year to get the ball down the field. I wish they broke it down to passes of 15+ yards, because if you look at the game charts you can see once he hits the 15+ yard mark it goes to ****.

In the 2019 total chart it's easy to see the deficiency, and although it shows some success throwing to the right and deep, he only had a few passes thrown that way all year (numbers are skewed).

TheOak · 01-15-2020, 07:13 AM

Originally Posted by blackangold

It's not the 40 yard bombs that we need, it's efficiency for passes that are 20+ yards out.

You can see through the charts here https://nextgenstats.nfl.com/charts/...rees/BRE229498 that Drew really struggled this year to get the ball down the field. I wish they broke it down to passes of 15+ yards, because if you look at the game charts you can see once he hits the 15+ yard mark it goes to ****.

In the 2019 total chart it's easy to see the deficiency, and although it shows some success throwing to the right and deep, he only had a few passes thrown that way all year (numbers are skewed).

What the chart shows is passer rating compared to the rest of the league. Not arm strength or ability.

What it shows:

Drew's passer rating from 10-20 yards between 124-140 and the league average in that same area 78-91.

It shows that beyond 20 yards on the right side of the field he has a 140 passer rating with a league average of 78

It does not show which receiver is dropping passes in what zone...

Considering your interpretation of that chart. Please tell me your thoughts on Teddy Bridgewater?
https://nextgenstats.nfl.com/charts/...19/all/qb-grid

Considering your interpretation of the chart. Please tell me what you see from all the QBs in the league compared to Drew? With a few exceptions all QBs have a lane preference after 40 yards.
https://nextgenstats.nfl.com/charts/list/qb-grid

Play around that site and you will find more. Like 4 of the 7 fastest sacks in Wild Card Weekend were Minnesota sacking Drew because of our craptastic o-line play.. What option isn't in the glorious "why we lost poll" because we got our ass beat in the trenches and it isn't there because a large majority of fans do not understand more than one position if they truly understand any.
https://nextgenstats.nfl.com/stats/t...-sacks/2019/18

This one shows that Teddy's longest Completion and Drew's longest completion are only 2.5 yards appart
https://nextgenstats.nfl.com/stats/p...d-air-distance

You will also find that Drew has the second fastest time to throw.. Even though a lot of people say he holds on to the ball too long.
https://nextgenstats.nfl.com/stats/p...-time-to-throw

On Wild Card Weekend Drew had the fastest TT and if I recall had 10 pressures, 4-5 hits, 3 sacks..
https://nextgenstats.nfl.com/stats/p...-time-to-throw

I do not go rummaging through stats to prove my idea, I go through everything I can find and see what the story tells me.

01-14-2020, 01:15 PM	#1
TheOak 10000 POST CLUB Join Date: Dec 2009 Location: Cypress Tx. Posts: 19,043	Re: I Want Drew Brees Back IF....... Sometimes we have knee jerk ideas that we should hear read back to ourselves in a different wording. We have people that want to get rid of statistically the most accurate passer in the league for 0.02% of his throws. Assuming a best possible case scenario I used Dak Prescott as he has the most 40+ yard passes at 16 which is 0.02% of his passes. Less than 1 pass per game is why we want to replace our QB... let that sink in. They want to get rid of a QB for an interception, the same QB that has the best TD/Int ratio for the season. Budsdrinker and Rell&Gold like this.
	It's not what you look at that matters, it's what you see. ~ Henry David Thoreau

01-14-2020, 01:51 PM	#2
blackangold 1000 Posts + Join Date: Aug 2011 Posts: 3,422	Re: I Want Drew Brees Back IF....... Originally Posted by TheOak Sometimes we have knee jerk ideas that we should hear read back to ourselves in a different wording. We have people that want to get rid of statistically the most accurate passer in the league for 0.02% of his throws. Assuming a best possible case scenario I used Dak Prescott as he has the most 40+ yard passes at 16 which is 0.02% of his passes. Less than 1 pass per game is why we want to replace our QB... let that sink in. They want to get rid of a QB for an interception, the same QB that has the best TD/Int ratio for the season. It's not the 40 yard bombs that we need, it's efficiency for passes that are 20+ yards out. You can see through the charts here https://nextgenstats.nfl.com/charts/...rees/BRE229498 that Drew really struggled this year to get the ball down the field. I wish they broke it down to passes of 15+ yards, because if you look at the game charts you can see once he hits the 15+ yard mark it goes to ****. In the 2019 total chart it's easy to see the deficiency, and although it shows some success throwing to the right and deep, he only had a few passes thrown that way all year (numbers are skewed).
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01-15-2020, 07:13 AM	#3
TheOak 10000 POST CLUB Join Date: Dec 2009 Location: Cypress Tx. Posts: 19,043	Re: I Want Drew Brees Back IF....... Originally Posted by blackangold It's not the 40 yard bombs that we need, it's efficiency for passes that are 20+ yards out. You can see through the charts here https://nextgenstats.nfl.com/charts/...rees/BRE229498 that Drew really struggled this year to get the ball down the field. I wish they broke it down to passes of 15+ yards, because if you look at the game charts you can see once he hits the 15+ yard mark it goes to ****. In the 2019 total chart it's easy to see the deficiency, and although it shows some success throwing to the right and deep, he only had a few passes thrown that way all year (numbers are skewed). What the chart shows is passer rating compared to the rest of the league. Not arm strength or ability. What it shows: Drew's passer rating from 10-20 yards between 124-140 and the league average in that same area 78-91. It shows that beyond 20 yards on the right side of the field he has a 140 passer rating with a league average of 78 It does not show which receiver is dropping passes in what zone... Considering your interpretation of that chart. Please tell me your thoughts on Teddy Bridgewater? https://nextgenstats.nfl.com/charts/...19/all/qb-grid Considering your interpretation of the chart. Please tell me what you see from all the QBs in the league compared to Drew? With a few exceptions all QBs have a lane preference after 40 yards. https://nextgenstats.nfl.com/charts/list/qb-grid Play around that site and you will find more. Like 4 of the 7 fastest sacks in Wild Card Weekend were Minnesota sacking Drew because of our craptastic o-line play.. What option isn't in the glorious "why we lost poll" because we got our ass beat in the trenches and it isn't there because a large majority of fans do not understand more than one position if they truly understand any. https://nextgenstats.nfl.com/stats/t...-sacks/2019/18 This one shows that Teddy's longest Completion and Drew's longest completion are only 2.5 yards appart https://nextgenstats.nfl.com/stats/p...d-air-distance You will also find that Drew has the second fastest time to throw.. Even though a lot of people say he holds on to the ball too long. https://nextgenstats.nfl.com/stats/p...-time-to-throw On Wild Card Weekend Drew had the fastest TT and if I recall had 10 pressures, 4-5 hits, 3 sacks.. https://nextgenstats.nfl.com/stats/p...-time-to-throw I do not go rummaging through stats to prove my idea, I go through everything I can find and see what the story tells me. AsylumGuido, skymike and dam1953 like this.
	It's not what you look at that matters, it's what you see. ~ Henry David Thoreau