LB Coach Mike Nolan Hired by Cowboys

jeanpierre · 01-06-2020, 08:12 PM

Originally Posted by neugey

It would be kind of sad to switch to a 3-4 now after it took us so damn long to build a quality 4-3 defense

Makes sense. Now that we've got the 4-3 personnel, Sean will want to shake things up...

After all, we got rid of Akiem Hicks so we could go to a 3-4 defense, what's Onyemata going to do for us?

(sarcasm)

ChrisXVI · 01-06-2020, 08:27 PM

Good news is we have the pieces in place: Davis-Anzalone-Klein. We have a promising young guy in Kaden Elliss and quality veteran backup in Craig Robertson. We just need one more piece for Anzalone injury insurance. Kiko was that guy, but a torn ACL will keep him sidelined if not released.

K Major · 01-06-2020, 09:31 PM

Originally Posted by jeanpierre

Makes sense. Now that we've got the 4-3 personnel, Sean will want to shake things up...

After all, we got rid of Akiem Hicks so we could go to a 3-4 defense, what's Onyemata going to do for us?

(sarcasm)

That's part of the problem.

Sean P needs to stop meddling with the defense.

Danno · 01-06-2020, 09:35 PM

A 3-4 would be terrible. We have excellent 4-3 personnel

RefsRobbedUs · 01-06-2020, 11:39 PM

Originally Posted by ChrisXVI

Good news is we have the pieces in place: Davis-Anzalone-Klein. We have a promising young guy in Kaden Elliss and quality veteran backup in Craig Robertson. We just need one more piece for Anzalone injury insurance. Kiko was that guy, but a torn ACL will keep him sidelined if not released.

I just wish we could count on Anzalone to play a full season. Didn't he have injury issues in college?

WillSaints81 · 01-06-2020, 11:55 PM

Originally Posted by jeanpierre

Makes sense. Now that we've got the 4-3 personnel, Sean will want to shake things up...

After all, we got rid of Akiem Hicks so we could go to a 3-4 defense, what's Onyemata going to do for us?

(sarcasm)

It's possible that SP deciding to go to a 3-4 defense just to "shake things up" was what helped contribute to those 7-9 finishes. It was a disaster and it didn't work for us.

K Major · 01-07-2020, 07:23 AM

Originally Posted by RefsRobbedUs

I just wish we could count on Anzalone to play a full season. Didn't he have injury issues in college?

Yes sir. A lot.

That was the knock on Alex coming out of Florida. Superior athlete with speed and quickness however durability was his main issue. So far, most scouting reports were correct.

My hope is that we address LB spot during free agency. Demario needs an assassin next to him who can get to those sidelines (watch the Niners LB on Sat vs MN) at the blink of an eye.

jeanpierre · 01-07-2020, 09:00 AM

Thought our LB play was excellent at the end of the season. It was our secondary that started breaking down on third and long, albeit injuries, poor play, suspect scheme...

We've got to get some fresh young guards from Wisconsin, Nebraska, and couple that with a real commitment to double Murray's touches; keep that defense on the sideline for more explosive play, turnovers...

And I'd definitely look to add a legit threat WR, albeit a slot guy who catches everything underneath and can wiggle some YAC or a outside burner pushing those safeties off of Michael Thomas...

turbo_dog · 01-07-2020, 11:52 AM

Originally Posted by rezburna

If we sign Wade we’ll likely shift to an attacking 3-4 defense but we don’t really have the personnel for it at the moment. We don’t have those 3-4 edge rushers, but I do think Cam Jordan, Mario Edwards, and David Onyemata make for some great 3-4 DE’s. We have our 3-4 ILB’s with Davis and Alonzo, but we gotta get those two EDGE rushers.

We don't even have good enough linebackers for a 4-3, outside of Davis, who was robbed of a probowl. No way we have the speed or athleticism required for 3-4 linebackers. And we don't have enough picks or cap space to sign enough in one off season.

turbo_dog · 01-07-2020, 12:01 PM

Originally Posted by turbo_dog

We don't even have good enough linebackers for a 4-3, outside of Davis, who was robbed of a probowl. No way we have the speed or athleticism required for 3-4 linebackers. And we don't have enough picks or cap space to sign enough in one off season.

In fact, I don't think this team has put enough emphasis on linebacker going all the way back to Jim Haslett, who ironically played linebacker. We've sometimes had one guy who was good, the rest are pick up pieces. Of course, we can't have four all stars like the dome patrol, but c'mon.

If you think about the greatest defenses of all time, they all had great linebackers. We have Davis and that's pretty much it. Klein played well at times. Anzelone played well at times when he wasn't injured.

We need one more guy like Davis who can run sideline to sideline, be stout in the run lanes, cover in the middle of the field, and get to the QB when needed.

01-06-2020, 08:12 PM	#21
jeanpierre Site Donor 2018 Join Date: Mar 2008 Location: Thibodaux Posts: 43,543 Blog Entries: 39	Re: LB Coach Mike Nolan Hired by Cowboys Originally Posted by neugey It would be kind of sad to switch to a 3-4 now after it took us so damn long to build a quality 4-3 defense Makes sense. Now that we've got the 4-3 personnel, Sean will want to shake things up... After all, we got rid of Akiem Hicks so we could go to a 3-4 defense, what's Onyemata going to do for us? (sarcasm)

01-06-2020, 08:27 PM	#22
ChrisXVI 10000 POST CLUB Join Date: Aug 2011 Location: Madison, WI Posts: 11,482	Re: LB Coach Mike Nolan Hired by Cowboys Good news is we have the pieces in place: Davis-Anzalone-Klein. We have a promising young guy in Kaden Elliss and quality veteran backup in Craig Robertson. We just need one more piece for Anzalone injury insurance. Kiko was that guy, but a torn ACL will keep him sidelined if not released.

01-06-2020, 09:31 PM	#23
K Major Site Donor 2019 Join Date: Jan 2013 Location: Bedford, TX Posts: 24,035 Blog Entries: 3	Re: LB Coach Mike Nolan Hired by Cowboys Originally Posted by jeanpierre Makes sense. Now that we've got the 4-3 personnel, Sean will want to shake things up... After all, we got rid of Akiem Hicks so we could go to a 3-4 defense, what's Onyemata going to do for us? (sarcasm) That's part of the problem. Sean P needs to stop meddling with the defense. jeanpierre likes this.

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Danno Site Donor 2014 Truth Addict Join Date: Dec 2003 Location: Spanish Fort, AL (via NO and B/R) Posts: 24,640	Re: LB Coach Mike Nolan Hired by Cowboys A 3-4 would be terrible. We have excellent 4-3 personnel jeanpierre and Rugby Saint II like this.

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RefsRobbedUs 500th Post Join Date: Jan 2019 Posts: 659	Re: LB Coach Mike Nolan Hired by Cowboys Originally Posted by ChrisXVI Good news is we have the pieces in place: Davis-Anzalone-Klein. We have a promising young guy in Kaden Elliss and quality veteran backup in Craig Robertson. We just need one more piece for Anzalone injury insurance. Kiko was that guy, but a torn ACL will keep him sidelined if not released. I just wish we could count on Anzalone to play a full season. Didn't he have injury issues in college?
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WillSaints81 1000 Posts + Join Date: Oct 2012 Posts: 4,267	Re: LB Coach Mike Nolan Hired by Cowboys Originally Posted by jeanpierre Makes sense. Now that we've got the 4-3 personnel, Sean will want to shake things up... After all, we got rid of Akiem Hicks so we could go to a 3-4 defense, what's Onyemata going to do for us? (sarcasm) It's possible that SP deciding to go to a 3-4 defense just to "shake things up" was what helped contribute to those 7-9 finishes. It was a disaster and it didn't work for us.

01-07-2020, 07:23 AM	#27
K Major Site Donor 2019 Join Date: Jan 2013 Location: Bedford, TX Posts: 24,035 Blog Entries: 3	Re: LB Coach Mike Nolan Hired by Cowboys Originally Posted by RefsRobbedUs I just wish we could count on Anzalone to play a full season. Didn't he have injury issues in college? Yes sir. A lot. That was the knock on Alex coming out of Florida. Superior athlete with speed and quickness however durability was his main issue. So far, most scouting reports were correct. My hope is that we address LB spot during free agency. Demario needs an assassin next to him who can get to those sidelines (watch the Niners LB on Sat vs MN) at the blink of an eye. Rsanders24 likes this.

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01-07-2020, 11:52 AM	#29
turbo_dog 1000 Posts + Join Date: Mar 2004 Location: Atlanta Posts: 1,541	Re: LB Coach Mike Nolan Hired by Cowboys Originally Posted by rezburna If we sign Wade we’ll likely shift to an attacking 3-4 defense but we don’t really have the personnel for it at the moment. We don’t have those 3-4 edge rushers, but I do think Cam Jordan, Mario Edwards, and David Onyemata make for some great 3-4 DE’s. We have our 3-4 ILB’s with Davis and Alonzo, but we gotta get those two EDGE rushers. We don't even have good enough linebackers for a 4-3, outside of Davis, who was robbed of a probowl. No way we have the speed or athleticism required for 3-4 linebackers. And we don't have enough picks or cap space to sign enough in one off season.

01-07-2020, 12:01 PM	#30
turbo_dog 1000 Posts + Join Date: Mar 2004 Location: Atlanta Posts: 1,541	Re: LB Coach Mike Nolan Hired by Cowboys Originally Posted by turbo_dog We don't even have good enough linebackers for a 4-3, outside of Davis, who was robbed of a probowl. No way we have the speed or athleticism required for 3-4 linebackers. And we don't have enough picks or cap space to sign enough in one off season. In fact, I don't think this team has put enough emphasis on linebacker going all the way back to Jim Haslett, who ironically played linebacker. We've sometimes had one guy who was good, the rest are pick up pieces. Of course, we can't have four all stars like the dome patrol, but c'mon. If you think about the greatest defenses of all time, they all had great linebackers. We have Davis and that's pretty much it. Klein played well at times. Anzelone played well at times when he wasn't injured. We need one more guy like Davis who can run sideline to sideline, be stout in the run lanes, cover in the middle of the field, and get to the QB when needed. darksoul35 and K Major like this.

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