2020 NFL Draft: Saints Prospects

jeanpierre · 01-22-2020, 09:04 AM

Originally Posted by K Major

Tyler Johnson WR - Minnesota

Good route (some scouts claim he's the best) runner, not a burner but excels with YAC.

Tyler Johnson checks many boxes except two - appreciate he overcomes his lack of speed/suddenness with disciplined routes AND for a 6' 2" WR he gets muscled from lesser stature DBs which is problematic...

While some rate him higher, I see him as a fourth round value; but that lack of physicality reminds me of someone we've got on the roster already...

K Major · 01-22-2020, 09:33 AM

Originally Posted by jeanpierre

Tyler Johnson checks many boxes except two - appreciate he overcomes his lack of speed/suddenness with disciplined routes AND for a 6' 2" WR he gets muscled from lesser stature DBs which is problematic...

While some rate him higher, I see him as a fourth round value; but that lack of physicality reminds me of someone we've got on the roster already...

Oh boy.

IMO the two most IMPORTANT pieces for 2020 and Brees is GUARD and #2 WR who can win the 50/50 ball. Maybe the bigger (6'2 or greater), stronger, all hands team is what the doctor ordered. Can Emmanuel Sanders be that dude this season? At time Ginn and Tre simply didn't want it. I forget which game it was where Smith took a shot & had his helmet knocked off ... gotta wonder if he's having second thoughts on battling defenders on those 50/50 opportunities? Alligator arms.

Less finesse and more physicality? Vikings really slapped us around up front.

jeanpierre · 01-22-2020, 10:10 AM

Originally Posted by K Major

Oh boy.

IMO the two most IMPORTANT pieces for 2020 and Brees is GUARD and #2 WR who can win the 50/50 ball. Maybe the bigger (6'2 or greater), stronger, all hands team is what the doctor ordered. Can Emmanuel Sanders be that dude this season? At time Ginn and Tre simply didn't want it. I forget which game it was where Smith took a shot & had his helmet knocked off ... gotta wonder if he's having second thoughts on battling defenders on those 50/50 opportunities? Alligator arms.

Less finesse and more physicality? Vikings really slapped us around up front.

We definitely sign a veteran No. 2 WR; for me, prefer burner on the outside to stretch the field that way Thomas and Cook can split the field with the intermediate stuff, Kamara carving underneath...

Jalen Reagor is the only WR I'd take on Day 2, even Day 1 as what he brings in talent could be utilized even with a limited repertoire as he adapts to the NFL game...

Really, REALLY, liking Denzel Mims' size, catch radius; can see MT opposite a WR-z burner, TE Cook on early downs, and bring along Mims as an WR-X, letting Thomas move inside on 3rd Downs where he's lethal...

K Major · 01-22-2020, 10:29 AM

Originally Posted by jeanpierre

[B]We definitely sign a veteran No. 2 WR; for me, prefer burner on the outside to stretch the field that way Thomas and Cook can split the field with the intermediate stuff, Kamara carving underneath...

Jalen Reagor is the only WR I'd take on Day 2, even Day 1 as what he brings in talent could be utilized even with a limited repertoire as he adapts to the NFL game...

He was interviewed here locally and they asked him what is his #1 Priority at the combine was and he stated .. "to run extremely fast". If he somehow clocks around 4.33 or better ... a team could bite on his speed alone Day 1.

In some ways, I see him as a KC CHIEF Mecole Hardman type player.

EXPLOSIVE.

jeanpierre · 01-22-2020, 10:54 AM

Originally Posted by K Major

He was interviewed here locally and they asked him what is his #1 Priority at the combine was and he stated .. "to run extremely fast". If he somehow clocks around 4.33 or better ... a team could bite on his speed alone Day 1.

In some ways, I see him as a KC CHIEF Mecole Hardman type player.

EXPLOSIVE.

And if you remember, Brandin Cooks came out a force, as a rookie, because he had to run a simple route tree, very, very fast...

Guys like Willie Snead The IV was able to run underneath all day and #dodamage...

jeanpierre · 01-22-2020, 10:21 AM

Originally Posted by K Major

Oh boy.

IMO the two most IMPORTANT pieces for 2020 and Brees is GUARD and #2 WR who can win the 50/50 ball. Maybe the bigger (6'2 or greater), stronger, all hands team is what the doctor ordered. Can Emmanuel Sanders be that dude this season? At time Ginn and Tre simply didn't want it. I forget which game it was where Smith took a shot & had his helmet knocked off ... gotta wonder if he's having second thoughts on battling defenders on those 50/50 opportunities? Alligator arms.

Less finesse and more physicality? Vikings really slapped us around up front.

Yep, Brandon Scherff or Joe Thuney, who incidentally was taken by the Patriots with the 3rd round pick we sent them, with a 4th, so we could take Vonn Bell in 2nd round of the 2016 draft...

I'd even sign both and move Warford, who's gotten soft and slow adjusting in space which is problematic in our blocking scheme; in fact I'd sign one of those two to replace Warford, transition from Easton/Clapp to a draft pick...

And I love to take Ben Bredeson in the second round if we went that route; he has the physicality NOW to bully and beat up on NFL vets like those Vikings, and the speed, head on the swivel to smack-down stunting DEs...

K Major · 01-22-2020, 12:36 PM

Originally Posted by jeanpierre

Yep, Brandon Scherff or Joe Thuney, who incidentally was taken by the Patriots with the 3rd round pick we sent them, with a 4th, so we could take Vonn Bell in 2nd round of the 2016 draft...

All day and every day on Brandon. This guy is an absolute mauler with the mindset to punish the guy in front of him for 4 quarters.

Peat got Brees injured vs the Rams, had a very poor showing vs Atlanta (a lot of sacks) & Vikings wildcard game. 1st rounder in name only.

Andrus can go. Brees needs an above average guard protecting him up the middle.

01-22-2020, 10:10 AM	#3
jeanpierre Site Donor 2018 Join Date: Mar 2008 Location: Thibodaux Posts: 43,543 Blog Entries: 39	Re: 2020 NFL Draft: Saints Prospects Originally Posted by K Major Oh boy. IMO the two most IMPORTANT pieces for 2020 and Brees is GUARD and #2 WR who can win the 50/50 ball. Maybe the bigger (6'2 or greater), stronger, all hands team is what the doctor ordered. Can Emmanuel Sanders be that dude this season? At time Ginn and Tre simply didn't want it. I forget which game it was where Smith took a shot & had his helmet knocked off ... gotta wonder if he's having second thoughts on battling defenders on those 50/50 opportunities? Alligator arms. Less finesse and more physicality? Vikings really slapped us around up front. We definitely sign a veteran No. 2 WR; for me, prefer burner on the outside to stretch the field that way Thomas and Cook can split the field with the intermediate stuff, Kamara carving underneath... Jalen Reagor is the only WR I'd take on Day 2, even Day 1 as what he brings in talent could be utilized even with a limited repertoire as he adapts to the NFL game... Really, REALLY, liking Denzel Mims' size, catch radius; can see MT opposite a WR-z burner, TE Cook on early downs, and bring along Mims as an WR-X, letting Thomas move inside on 3rd Downs where he's lethal...
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01-22-2020, 10:29 AM	#4
K Major Site Donor 2019 Join Date: Jan 2013 Location: Bedford, TX Posts: 24,840 Blog Entries: 3	Re: 2020 NFL Draft: Saints Prospects Originally Posted by jeanpierre [B]We definitely sign a veteran No. 2 WR; for me, prefer burner on the outside to stretch the field that way Thomas and Cook can split the field with the intermediate stuff, Kamara carving underneath... Jalen Reagor is the only WR I'd take on Day 2, even Day 1 as what he brings in talent could be utilized even with a limited repertoire as he adapts to the NFL game... He was interviewed here locally and they asked him what is his #1 Priority at the combine was and he stated .. "to run extremely fast". If he somehow clocks around 4.33 or better ... a team could bite on his speed alone Day 1. In some ways, I see him as a KC CHIEF Mecole Hardman type player. EXPLOSIVE. jeanpierre likes this.

01-22-2020, 10:54 AM	#5
jeanpierre Site Donor 2018 Join Date: Mar 2008 Location: Thibodaux Posts: 43,543 Blog Entries: 39	Re: 2020 NFL Draft: Saints Prospects Originally Posted by K Major He was interviewed here locally and they asked him what is his #1 Priority at the combine was and he stated .. "to run extremely fast". If he somehow clocks around 4.33 or better ... a team could bite on his speed alone Day 1. In some ways, I see him as a KC CHIEF Mecole Hardman type player. EXPLOSIVE. And if you remember, Brandin Cooks came out a force, as a rookie, because he had to run a simple route tree, very, very fast... Guys like Willie Snead The IV was able to run underneath all day and #dodamage... K Major likes this.

01-22-2020, 10:21 AM	#6
jeanpierre Site Donor 2018 Join Date: Mar 2008 Location: Thibodaux Posts: 43,543 Blog Entries: 39	Re: 2020 NFL Draft: Saints Prospects Originally Posted by K Major Oh boy. IMO the two most IMPORTANT pieces for 2020 and Brees is GUARD and #2 WR who can win the 50/50 ball. Maybe the bigger (6'2 or greater), stronger, all hands team is what the doctor ordered. Can Emmanuel Sanders be that dude this season? At time Ginn and Tre simply didn't want it. I forget which game it was where Smith took a shot & had his helmet knocked off ... gotta wonder if he's having second thoughts on battling defenders on those 50/50 opportunities? Alligator arms. Less finesse and more physicality? Vikings really slapped us around up front. Yep, Brandon Scherff or Joe Thuney, who incidentally was taken by the Patriots with the 3rd round pick we sent them, with a 4th, so we could take Vonn Bell in 2nd round of the 2016 draft... I'd even sign both and move Warford, who's gotten soft and slow adjusting in space which is problematic in our blocking scheme; in fact I'd sign one of those two to replace Warford, transition from Easton/Clapp to a draft pick... And I love to take Ben Bredeson in the second round if we went that route; he has the physicality NOW to bully and beat up on NFL vets like those Vikings, and the speed, head on the swivel to smack-down stunting DEs... K Major and MarchingOn like this.
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01-22-2020, 12:36 PM	#7
K Major Site Donor 2019 Join Date: Jan 2013 Location: Bedford, TX Posts: 24,840 Blog Entries: 3	Re: 2020 NFL Draft: Saints Prospects Originally Posted by jeanpierre Yep, Brandon Scherff or Joe Thuney, who incidentally was taken by the Patriots with the 3rd round pick we sent them, with a 4th, so we could take Vonn Bell in 2nd round of the 2016 draft... All day and every day on Brandon. This guy is an absolute mauler with the mindset to punish the guy in front of him for 4 quarters. Peat got Brees injured vs the Rams, had a very poor showing vs Atlanta (a lot of sacks) & Vikings wildcard game. 1st rounder in name only. Andrus can go. Brees needs an above average guard protecting him up the middle. jeanpierre and MarchingOn like this.

01-22-2020, 09:04 AM	#1
jeanpierre Site Donor 2018 Join Date: Mar 2008 Location: Thibodaux Posts: 43,543 Blog Entries: 39	Re: 2020 NFL Draft: Saints Prospects Originally Posted by K Major Tyler Johnson WR - Minnesota Good route (some scouts claim he's the best) runner, not a burner but excels with YAC. Tyler Johnson checks many boxes except two - appreciate he overcomes his lack of speed/suddenness with disciplined routes AND for a 6' 2" WR he gets muscled from lesser stature DBs which is problematic... While some rate him higher, I see him as a fourth round value; but that lack of physicality reminds me of someone we've got on the roster already...

01-22-2020, 09:33 AM	#2
K Major Site Donor 2019 Join Date: Jan 2013 Location: Bedford, TX Posts: 24,840 Blog Entries: 3	Re: 2020 NFL Draft: Saints Prospects Originally Posted by jeanpierre Tyler Johnson checks many boxes except two - appreciate he overcomes his lack of speed/suddenness with disciplined routes AND for a 6' 2" WR he gets muscled from lesser stature DBs which is problematic... While some rate him higher, I see him as a fourth round value; but that lack of physicality reminds me of someone we've got on the roster already... Oh boy. IMO the two most IMPORTANT pieces for 2020 and Brees is GUARD and #2 WR who can win the 50/50 ball. Maybe the bigger (6'2 or greater), stronger, all hands team is what the doctor ordered. Can Emmanuel Sanders be that dude this season? At time Ginn and Tre simply didn't want it. I forget which game it was where Smith took a shot & had his helmet knocked off ... gotta wonder if he's having second thoughts on battling defenders on those 50/50 opportunities? Alligator arms. Less finesse and more physicality? Vikings really slapped us around up front. jeanpierre likes this.

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