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AsylumGuido 03-25-2020 03:09 PM
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Originally Posted by dizzle88 (Post 883138)
Yeah not sure how I feel about it, Bell had a pro bowl level season at 25 years old (I think) and we let him go in favour of a 32 year old.
Yet what has killed us according to some was the lack of discipline in the secondary in the playoffs. Jenkins has those leadership qualities and 32 isn't old when we are in it to win it now. We brought in some veterans that helped us win it all in 2009-10. Maybe we need the same input today.

ChrisXVI 03-25-2020 03:20 PM
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Vonn Bell messed up. We offered him more but he big-timed us.

FinSaint 03-25-2020 03:48 PM
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I feel sorry for him, even Burrow can't save that dumpsterfire

rezburna 03-25-2020 04:12 PM
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Originally Posted by dizzle88 (Post 883138)
Yeah not sure how I feel about it, Bell had a pro bowl level season at 25 years old (I think) and we let him go in favour of a 32 year old.
He didn’t grade out as a Pro Bowl level safety. He finished with a 64.6.

Jamal Adams was the SS for the AFC. He had an 88.2.

Harrison Smith was the NFC guy. 89.8

Bell wasn’t anywhere near that ball park. Malcolm Jenkins ended up with a 68.6. Not particularly great either, but better than Bell. CJG had a 72.6 though. Now that’s what I call an ascending young player.

These grades aren’t everything, but they do tend to tell a pretty good story.

ChrisXVI 03-25-2020 04:13 PM
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On the plus side, the Vonn Bell signing should net us a 6th round comp pick. So that makes a 3rd rounder for Bridgewater and 6th for Bell!

AsylumGuido 03-25-2020 05:08 PM
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Originally Posted by rezburna (Post 883144)
He didn’t grade out as a Pro Bowl level safety. He finished with a 64.6.

Jamal Adams was the SS for the AFC. He had an 88.2.

Harrison Smith was the NFC guy. 89.8

Bell wasn’t anywhere near that ball park. Malcolm Jenkins ended up with a 68.6. Not particularly great either, but better than Bell. CJG had a 72.6 though. Now that’s what I call an ascending young player.

These grades aren’t everything, but they do tend to tell a pretty good story.
No fair. You are using inductive thinking rather than incorrect facts.

halloween 65 03-25-2020 06:14 PM
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Originally Posted by ChrisXVI (Post 883141)
https://twitter.com/miketriplett/sta...07385984884737

Vonn Bell messed up. We offered him more but he big-timed us.
That's the part that kills me.

RefsRobbedUs 03-25-2020 07:48 PM
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You don’t take less to sign with a team like the Bengals. We offered him an amount and he declined because he thought he could get more. Saints didn’t have time so they signed Jenkins. Bell finally realizes he messed up and wasn’t worth more than what the Saints offered and has to sign for less with Cinci.

jeanpierre 03-25-2020 08:09 PM
Re: 2020 NFL Free Agency: New Orleans Saints
 
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Originally Posted by AsylumGuido (Post 883140)
Yet what has killed us according to some was the lack of discipline in the secondary in the playoffs. Jenkins has those leadership qualities and 32 isn't old when we are in it to win it now. We brought in some veterans that helped us win it all in 2009-10. Maybe we need the same input today.
To be fair, discipline will break down when you're req'd to cover longer than expected because the pass rush is on IR nearly every post-season...

Signing Onyemata was all about being available; we've got to get even more physical on that defensive line; we should be banging up their line, not the other way around...

Frisco flat out whipped us physically in our house last year, that can never happen again if we want to be taken seriously as contenders and not relegated to Mora Mediocrity...

lee909 03-25-2020 11:39 PM
Re: 2020 NFL Free Agency: New Orleans Saints
 
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Originally Posted by ChrisXVI (Post 883145)
On the plus side, the Vonn Bell signing should net us a 6th round comp pick. So that makes a 3rd rounder for Bridgewater and 6th for Bell!
Surely the Jenkins signing will wipe out anything for Bell


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