2019-20 Conference Championship Games

CHA_CHING · 01-19-2020, 08:06 PM

Originally Posted by Lord_Saint83

When i got into football in the early 90’s i was a big steve young fan. Don't crucify me, lol. So i always liked SF but i loved NO i know it sounds weird being in the same division at the time. But imma weird guy. Anyways when young left i didn't care about SF and as you said i hated them with Harbaugh but after his ass left my hatred for them calmed. They just don't bother me like ATL, LAR, DAL, NE, MIN, SEA, and GB. I’ll prolly get some flack from most here for liking SF as a kid and still loving the Saints. But oh well.

Can't crucify you for liking Steve Young. The guy was legit and an underdog his entire career despite being a statistically dominant QB who is only now appreciated in the era of advanced stats when people go back and realize he was great. He was always in Montana's shadow, even after he got a ring. Young also took some of the most brutal hits I ever seen a QB take. I seen him take some brutal helmet to helmet hits from the pocket. It seemed like teams intentionally targeted him to take him out of games. This led to the Niners backups Bono and Grbac becoming hot commodities when the team still won games without their starting QB.

I have always felt bad for Young. When going through DVOA and stats of the 90s, he is always, always in the top 3 of QBs for every year up to his retirement and was #1 until 1995 when Favre overtook him and yet even after that, during Favre's prime, Young had some great years left in him.

Young is also a hard QB to analyze cause he was rarely healthy after 1994, which was his best season. The Niners probably win another SB in 1995 to go back to back to if he didn't sustain injuries that year and have to miss time. They finished the season with the #1 ranked defense, but only went 11-5 and then drew the Packers in the playoffs. GB was their kryptonite. Their highlight of the year was going into Dallas and stomping the Cowboys without Young starting.

I often see Rodgers compared to him due to their circumstances of replacing a HoF QB, but Rodgers has regressed since 2014. Young still led the league in TDs at age 38 and his entire prime was all through his 30s. I hate the Niners, but I have always respected him, even more so since digging into DVOA stuff.

Lord_Saint83 · 01-19-2020, 08:15 PM

Originally Posted by CHA_CHING

Can't crucify you for liking Steve Young. The guy was legit and an underdog his entire career despite being a statistically dominant QB who is only now appreciated in the era of advanced stats when people go back and realize he was great. He was always in Montana's shadow, even after he got a ring. Young also took some of the most brutal hits I ever seen a QB take. I seen him take some brutal helmet to helmet hits from the pocket. It seemed like teams intentionally targeted him to take him out of games. This led to the Niners backups Bono and Grbac becoming hot commodities when the team still won games without their starting QB.

I have always felt bad for Young. When going through DVOA and stats of the 90s, he is always, always in the top 3 of QBs for every year up to his retirement and was #1 until 1995 when Favre overtook him and yet even after that, during Favre's prime, Young had some great years left in him.

Young is also a hard QB to analyze cause he was rarely healthy after 1994, which was his best season. The Niners probably win another SB in 1995 to go back to back to if he didn't sustain injuries that year and have to miss time. They finished the season with the #1 ranked defense, but only went 11-5 and then drew the Packers in the playoffs. GB was their kryptonite. Their highlight of the year was going into Dallas and stomping the Cowboys without Young starting.

I often see Rodgers compared to him due to their circumstances of replacing a HoF QB, but Rodgers has regressed since 2014. Young still led the league in TDs at age 38 and his entire prime was all through his 30s. I hate the Niners, but I have always respected him, even more so since digging into DVOA stuff.

Yea, they used to clean his clock back then but he had heart though

View Poll Results: Saints Fans On The Conference Championships
Pulling for Chiefs, San Francisco	2	15.38%
Pulling for Chiefs, Green Bay	1	7.69%
Pulling for Titans, San Francisco	4	30.77%
Pulling for Titans, Green Bay	3	23.08%
None - Focused on the Saints Offseason, Free Agency, Draft	3	23.08%
None - Wake Me When September's here!	0	0%
Voters: 13. You may not vote on this poll

01-19-2020, 08:15 PM	#2
Lord_Saint83 100% Blunt Join Date: Jun 2013 Location: Saint Gabriel, La Posts: 2,754	Re: 2019-20 Conference Championship Games Originally Posted by CHA_CHING Can't crucify you for liking Steve Young. The guy was legit and an underdog his entire career despite being a statistically dominant QB who is only now appreciated in the era of advanced stats when people go back and realize he was great. He was always in Montana's shadow, even after he got a ring. Young also took some of the most brutal hits I ever seen a QB take. I seen him take some brutal helmet to helmet hits from the pocket. It seemed like teams intentionally targeted him to take him out of games. This led to the Niners backups Bono and Grbac becoming hot commodities when the team still won games without their starting QB. I have always felt bad for Young. When going through DVOA and stats of the 90s, he is always, always in the top 3 of QBs for every year up to his retirement and was #1 until 1995 when Favre overtook him and yet even after that, during Favre's prime, Young had some great years left in him. Young is also a hard QB to analyze cause he was rarely healthy after 1994, which was his best season. The Niners probably win another SB in 1995 to go back to back to if he didn't sustain injuries that year and have to miss time. They finished the season with the #1 ranked defense, but only went 11-5 and then drew the Packers in the playoffs. GB was their kryptonite. Their highlight of the year was going into Dallas and stomping the Cowboys without Young starting. I often see Rodgers compared to him due to their circumstances of replacing a HoF QB, but Rodgers has regressed since 2014. Young still led the league in TDs at age 38 and his entire prime was all through his 30s. I hate the Niners, but I have always respected him, even more so since digging into DVOA stuff. Yea, they used to clean his clock back then but he had heart though CHA_CHING likes this.

LinkBacks (?) LinkBack to this Thread: https://blackandgold.com/saints/96840-2019-20-conference-championship-games.html
Posted By	For	Type	Date	Hits
2019-20 Conference Championship Games	This thread	Refback	01-19-2020 03:37 PM	3

01-19-2020, 08:06 PM	#1
CHA_CHING 1000 Posts + Join Date: Jan 2019 Location: Mobile, AL Posts: 1,159	Re: 2019-20 Conference Championship Games Originally Posted by Lord_Saint83 When i got into football in the early 90’s i was a big steve young fan. Don't crucify me, lol. So i always liked SF but i loved NO i know it sounds weird being in the same division at the time. But imma weird guy. Anyways when young left i didn't care about SF and as you said i hated them with Harbaugh but after his ass left my hatred for them calmed. They just don't bother me like ATL, LAR, DAL, NE, MIN, SEA, and GB. I’ll prolly get some flack from most here for liking SF as a kid and still loving the Saints. But oh well. Can't crucify you for liking Steve Young. The guy was legit and an underdog his entire career despite being a statistically dominant QB who is only now appreciated in the era of advanced stats when people go back and realize he was great. He was always in Montana's shadow, even after he got a ring. Young also took some of the most brutal hits I ever seen a QB take. I seen him take some brutal helmet to helmet hits from the pocket. It seemed like teams intentionally targeted him to take him out of games. This led to the Niners backups Bono and Grbac becoming hot commodities when the team still won games without their starting QB. I have always felt bad for Young. When going through DVOA and stats of the 90s, he is always, always in the top 3 of QBs for every year up to his retirement and was #1 until 1995 when Favre overtook him and yet even after that, during Favre's prime, Young had some great years left in him. Young is also a hard QB to analyze cause he was rarely healthy after 1994, which was his best season. The Niners probably win another SB in 1995 to go back to back to if he didn't sustain injuries that year and have to miss time. They finished the season with the #1 ranked defense, but only went 11-5 and then drew the Packers in the playoffs. GB was their kryptonite. Their highlight of the year was going into Dallas and stomping the Cowboys without Young starting. I often see Rodgers compared to him due to their circumstances of replacing a HoF QB, but Rodgers has regressed since 2014. Young still led the league in TDs at age 38 and his entire prime was all through his 30s. I hate the Niners, but I have always respected him, even more so since digging into DVOA stuff. Lord_Saint83 likes this.