Early Mock Draft Has Saints Picking An LSU WR?
 

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No way Saints pick JJ ! :rofl:

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Hey Smash,

LSU homer glasses off here. Many scouts have agreed that Justin's floor could be comparable to Cooper Kupp & ceiling as high as DeVante' Adams. That's extremely high praise.

This dawg is already familiar with the Saints passing concepts in a Brady led offense. If he somehow "slips" to the end of the 1st, possibly 2nd round & he's the best player available on your board. Draft this kid.

IMO he is a fit & another THREAT in our offense.

I'm hoping Daniel J is right on this one. Some of the NY Giants fans laughed at him pre draft last year when he thought they would select Daniel Jones @ QB.

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You probably right.... we'll see if SP uses his LSU filter.

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It ain’t happening u got tre- con Smith and u want JJ . What’s wrong with this world.


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Another mock has us taking Jordan Love

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A real possibility @ 24 ... assuming he's still on the board.

Saints will need to draft a QB either THIS year or next anyway.

My question for Love is can his accuracy "issues" be corrected though?

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We need a stud asre run blocking guard period


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Receivers aren't any good unless Drew has time in the pocket to throw them the ball. Peat has cost us dearly the last couple of years with being injured and/or just flat out playing poorly. Give me a big ugly in the first round. You win in the trenches folks! Give Drew time to throw and he's going to win games.

Oh yes, the run game should also be better between the tackles. The O-line problems is why Payton gets away from the run and Drew throws the ball so often then struggles to find an open receiver in 2.5 seconds.

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We are going to be a losing program once Brees retires anyway. We might as well wait. It may be decades before we are lucky enough to find another QB even as good as he is right now.

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Perfect !!! We have to built for the future ,sorry folks


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I don’t understand why so many think laysom taysom can’t get us as for as drew and teddy did this year. He’s a stud


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What have you seen from Taysom that makes you think that he'd be at least an average QB? He's great at what he does but I've only seen a terrific athlete with subpar throwing ability when he throws.

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Who said anything about throwing the rock , let’s Lamar Jackson this mf


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Taysom is a stud football player. He has not put up any studly numbers at QB, however. He was a paltry three for six passing this year with 55 yards and no TD's. His strength is at exactly how he is being used ... as a versatile offensive tool and special teamer.

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Justin Jefferson is definitely the pick.

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Because throwing is what a QB does. And as much as I love what this kid brings to this team he is no Lamar Jackson. He can't do what Jackson does.
Conversely, Jackson couldn't do what Hill does. Two very different players.

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I'm not so sure about that Guido. If we keep a strong O-line then a new QB would have time in the pocket to make sound decisions. It would also open the running game which means fewer passes. We have a decent defense that should play better and hopefully will and that helps win games.

These are the things needed in Drew's last years and for a new QB to step in and be successful. We did win 5 games with check down Teddy this year after all. Just sayin'. :p

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Do not underestimate Brees' leadership on and off the field. He was right there through the stretch when the defense was winning us the games with Teddy just trying to keep out of the way. As I mentioned earlier, it could be years or longer before we have a QB that can have the positive impact of Brees again. His sort are few and VERY far between. Mahomes and Wilson may be the only other ones in the league today.

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Exactly. Taysom is a gamer, a stud & he looked pretty darn accurate late in the season. I see us mirroring Baltimore going forward. Taysom is our guy, just watch.

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Don’t no why some think he’s not accurate the little we’ve seen of him throwing wasn’t that bad?


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We’re going back to a game management type plan once drew retires ala 2 gloves 5 games


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A bit of rivisionist history there, 73. Taysom only threw SIX passes all season, completing only three of those. That's not a sample size that can honestly show any tendency of accuracy.

He was two of his first two attempts on the season. He only completed ONE of his next four attempts in the regular season.

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50% (3-6) is not very good.

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And we're going back to 8-8 seasons.

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Jesus Christopher 6 fuuuukin passes u people?


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He had seven pass attempts last year, also completing only three of them. Taysom is SIX of THIRTEEN passing for his career ... a rate of 46.2%.

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"Mock" Justin Jefferson thread.

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Back on topic ...

Justin could become the 2nd or at worst 3rd most productive WR in NO.

Whether you are drafting for "fits" or "talent", it will depend on Sean P mindset. But with Brees @ QB and current personnel, Jefferson could thrive in our system.

Already has the west coast Joe Brady from experience & he's very detailed in route running. He could become very good in the SLOT.

NFL comparison - Cooper Kupp

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Yes.
I foresee the Saints making a solid pick in the first round and Payton will see a player that he wants still on the board after the 1st and tell Loomis to package everything to move up and get that guy in the beginning of the 2nd.

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Bucky Brooks thinks they will select QB Jordan Love.

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I'm sorry, but my anti hero-worship censor compels me to refute this nonsense. I've been reading comments like this one for weeks and refraining from getting into an argument about it, but I can't deal with this anymore without responding.

You have said for YEARS (and I've been refuting your arguments for all of those years) that the Saints would be sunk at any such time that Brees is no longer on the team. Then you saw this team go 5-0 without him, looking actually MORE efficient at times, even if in a different way, and you STILL come in here and proclaim that this team is dead without him.

When Drew was in his prime, it was great. None of us wanted to see it end, because during that time he was probably the greatest QB the game has ever seen, regardless of whatever mystical reasons that people tried to argue in favor of anyone else. But that time HAS come to an end. Prime Brees is no longer here. He's a good QB, and can have moments of brilliance. The Saints won't suck if he stays for another year. But to say that it might be decades before the Saints find another QB as good as he is NOW? If that happens, then it will mean that the front office is full of idiots.

This is a game now built for offense, and nothing but offense. Ryan Tannehill just made the Pro Bowl. Let's see a raise of hands on how many people thought he was capable of anything remotely good? He left an awful organization, got put in a system that utilized his skill-set, and protected him with a dominant running game so that he wouldn't have to carry his team, and that was the trick. But he's not going to win a game that is totally on his shoulders.

Such is the case, currently, with Brees. He's not the guy that can carry you when you need him to. Certainly, at the very least, not to the extent that he used to be able to. So should the Saints just play out the string with Brees, and be happy to be good for now, but come up short every year in the biggest games, or should they start developing someone for the future? My answer to that, is if the right guy falls in your lap, you take him, and let him learn from Brees. He's not playing till he's 45. And if he does, I'm afraid it's not going to be pretty.

This team has a core that can win. I'd rather try to maximize the years that this core has, than to wait for Drew to wither into a shell of himself like Favre and Peyton did, because we're too afraid to move on from our hero. Those guys ended their careers on different teams than they started with, because their organizations weren't afraid of a change. You won't always get the result you want, but you have to accept that no QB is going to play forever.

I've seen the question "who's out there who you'd replace him with" raised numerous times. That's not at all the question that should be asked. You look to the draft. And to that end, the question should be how long do we wait to start looking in that direction to develop someone like the 49ers did with Steve Young, and the Packers with Rodgers, or whatever historical example you want to give. There is never a guarantee that anything is going to work. Is that a valid reason to wait for it to implode, rather than be proactive? I think not.

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+1. ^^ This.

Well articulated and I get it.

IMO this will be Brees last year ... WIN, LOSE OR DRAW.

I think the Saints brass WILL draft a QB in 2020 ... we all love Brees but he can't play forever. Many simply don't want to believe that.

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if we don’t fix our failing weak spots on online I see 9-7 with Drew in 2020 tell me different Atlanta will sweep us with drew , Tampa will split and Carolina will split a home and home. If Drew retires which I’m leaning towards all the BS fighting is for not


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I'm thinking it's his last year, too, Major. I can't say I have an overwhelming sense that the Saints will draft a QB this year, but I'm guessing that if they have any sense, they will, in fact, do so. Assuming they have an opportunity to draft a quality prospect at the position. There are some guys (*cough* Fromm *cough) who I'd definitely steer clear of.

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Yes. The team will most likely be dead without him, unless the defense suddenly has the ability to remain healthy and carry the team ... just as they did during that 5-0 stretch. Don't worry, I'll be there predicting a 19-0 season every season, but my real expectations will be far lower than they have been for the past decade and a half.

Be careful what you wish for. You mat get it.

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If you see the Saints as 9-7 with Brees in 2020 then you should expect 6-10 at the very best with any other QB. That 6-10 will be our norm for the foreseeable future. At least we won't have any postseason disappointments.

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Brace yourself


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No need to brace. We won't have postseason disappointment because we won't be going to the playoffs. Some need to brace themselves for that very real possibility.

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Predictable response. If Drew is playing, he's carrying the team. If he's not playing, and the team is winning, the defense is carrying the team.

With all due respect, the correct answer is the TEAM wins games. When Drew was still in his prime, but the defense was bad, the team went 7-9 a bunch of times, and 8-8 once. If you're going to win, you need to have a good team. That should be plainly obvious to any reasonable observer.

Did the defense carry the Saints against the Bucs the first time? No. Did they carry the team against Chicago? No. Seattle? No. In all of those games there was a combination of offense, defense and special teams. When Drew came back, did they score more points? If they did, it was negligible. Did they have a better winning percentage? No. The offense needed a couple of weeks to find it's bearings after Drew went down, and once it did, it was on a roll. They found a new identity. One very similar to what the Titans used to go from 2-4, to one game short of the Super Bowl.

I'd say the Saints definitely have more talent than Tennessee, and if they could figure it out with Tannehill, I think the Saints can do better. When Drew came back, the team went back to playing unbalanced offense, and a lack of consistent ball control.

Be careful what I wish for? What is it you believe I'm wishing for? Drew is declining. I should want to stay on a sinking ship, shoveling water out by hand, while the ocean swallows it up? No. This team has talent. It can win with decent QB play, but it's not likely to get over the top. Start developing someone now, rather than flaming out with an aging QB, with no plan for the future.