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Old 01-30-2020, 01:16 PM   #41
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Drew will be here for a long time.

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Old 01-30-2020, 06:45 PM   #42
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I’m ready to move on from Brees. His legacy has earned him as much time as he wants in a Saints uniform behind center. I may not like it, but I’ll let it be. I am very intrigued by what the offense would look like with Taysom Hill at quarterback full time though.
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Iím ready to move on from Brees. His legacy has earned him as much time as he wants in a Saints uniform behind center. I may not like it, but Iíll let it be. I am very intrigued by what the offense would look like with Taysom Hill at quarterback full time though.
How will the lack of being the center of the offence for several years affect him? And will he ever approach the understanding of reading the defenses that Brees has accomplished over the past two decades? I have no doubt he is an athlete. An incredible athlete. But, to date, he has completed seven passes in thirteen attempts in his entire regular and postseason professional career.

That offense will most likely look a little ugly for a couple of years. Maybe after that it can blossom ... if we still have any other assets in place.
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How will the lack of being the center of the offence for several years affect him? And will he ever approach the understanding of reading the defenses that Brees has accomplished over the past two decades? I have no doubt he is an athlete. An incredible athlete. But, to date, he has completed seven passes in thirteen attempts in his entire regular and postseason professional career.

That offense will most likely look a little ugly for a couple of years. Maybe after that it can blossom ... if we still have any other assets in place.
Iím positive there will be more interceptions. Itís just something about him that makes me feel like he might shine in the big moments.
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Old 01-31-2020, 01:08 AM   #45
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He certainly has an arm on him.
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He certainly has an arm on him.
Not as strong as Jamarcus Russell.



Which reminds me of a story I heard on NFL Radio a couple of days ago. A coach gave Russell a CD and told him to go home and check out all the plays and come back with the ones he felt best fit him. He brought it back the next morning and told the coach to keep all the plays and that he could handle them. The CD was BLANK and was given to him as a test. True story.
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Not as strong as Jamarcus Russell.



Which reminds me of a story I heard on NFL Radio a couple of days ago. A coach gave Russell a CD and told him to go home and check out all the plays and come back with the ones he felt best fit him. He brought it back the next morning and told the coach to keep all the plays and that he could handle them. The CD was BLANK and was given to him as a test. True story.
Well, let's turn the tables...

Question, How do you know Taysom Hill is putting in as much or less effort than Jamarcus Russell did? In interviews since Hill arrive, I've only heard Brees and Hill disclose praise of Taysom's work and progress...

Which, leads me to the next...

Question, why would the offense not evolve, be different about Taysom's skill set? The NFL is constantly referred to as a copy-cat league. Payton is obviously looking at Chiefs and Ravens, seeing opportunities...

And then there's just that...

Question, How was Taysom to overtake Brees with limited opportunities? Irregardless of Hill's ceiling, Hill can only get better if he's afforded the opportunities on the field at the quarterback position...

Don't know about you, but I definitely knew when I hit 40. While all things are relative, you still know you're 40; 40 may just be a number, but we all know it's not 29 irregardless of our maintenance...

Now just a few years ago, Denver had an amazing team and won games with Tim Tebow - who I'd consider Hill to be a better quarterback. What Tebow had that Denver hadn't had - a leader that inspired...

Know you were watching that game as intensely as the rest of us, and you could see Hill fired those guys up when on the field, gave back confidence and maybe that's what gets this team over this playoff block...

Lastly, Eli Manning retired this week. Can't think of a more apt comparison of Eli and Peyton Manning. Eli wasn't the passer Peyton was, but Eli was Kryptonite in the playoffs...

He'd knocked off a red-hot Aaron Rodgers in Green Bay in the playoffs, defeated an undefeated Brady and the Patriots in the Superbowl. Eli even went to toe-to-toe with a red-hot Brees-led offense...

But when the Manning Boys sit down to Thanksgiving Dinner, both of them have two Superbowl rings each and Payton's second Superbowl run, well, Payton was a shell of his former self...

We knew this time was coming with Brees, all predicted various dates when, but nonetheless the foreboding was coming and we should just watch and enjoy as much of the experience we can...

The only comparison that should be made between Brees and Hill, the only one that matters, what does the scoreboard say at the end of the games in the Tournament...
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And there you have it...




Disclosure: Yes Chris Simms is a complete idiot, making the assumption he accurately quoted Brees' statement
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Well, let's turn the tables...

Question, How do you know Taysom Hill is putting in as much or less effort than Jamarcus Russell did? In interviews since Hill arrive, I've only heard Brees and Hill disclose how praise of Taysom's work and progress...

Which, leads me to the next...

Question, why would the offense not evolve be different about Taysom's skill set? The NFL is constantly referred to as a copy-cat league. Payton is obviously looking at Chiefs and Ravens, seeing opportunities...

And then there's just that...

Question, How was Taysom to overtake Brees with limited opportunities? Irregardless of Hill's ceiling, Hill can only get better if he's afforded the opportunities on the field at the quarterback position...

Don't know about you, but I definitely knew when I hit 40. While all things are relative, you still know you're 40; 40 may just be a number, but we all know it's not 29 irregardless of our maintenance...

Now just a few years ago, Denver had an amazing team and won games with Tim Tebow - who I'd consider Hill to be a better quarterback. What Tebow had that Denver hadn't had - a leader that inspired...

Know you were watching that game as intensely as the rest of us, and you could see Hill fired those guys up when on the field, gave back confidence and maybe that's what gets this team over this playoff block...

Lastly, Eli Manning retired this week. Can't think of a more apt comparison of Eli and Peyton Manning. Eli wasn't the passer Peyton was, but Eli was Kryptonite in the playoffs...

He'd knocked off a red-hot Aaron Rodgers in Green Bay in the playoffs, defeated an undefeated Brady and the Patriots in the Superbowl. Eli even went to toe-to-toe with a red-hot Brees-led offense...

But when the Manning Boys sit down to Thanksgiving Dinner, both of them have two Superbowl rings each and Payton's second Superbowl run, well, Payton was a shell of his former self...

We knew this time was coming with Brees, all predicted various dates when, but nonetheless the foreboding was coming and we should just watch and enjoy as much of the experience we can...

The only comparison that should be made between Brees and Hill, the only one that matters, what does the scoreboard say at the end of the games in the Tournament...
Sorry, but I just don't have confidence in Hill getting us to the tournament. I can't and won't argue his drive and enthusiasm. I question his ability to be effective on a full-time basis. His limited success at "QB" has come with his as a wildcat, not lined up as an every down QB. He is great, however, when lined up as a TE, or in the slot, or as an H-back. The way I look at it is that Teddy Bridgewater has a low ceiling at QB. I just don't see him as anything but average, which isn't bad, but it was him, not Hill that took over starting duties when Brees went down. There was a reason for that and it wasn't to use Hill in his most valuable role. His touches went WAY down until Brees returned.

Who knows? Maybe Hill can evolve into an every down QB some day. I just haven't seen it myself. I just see us taking a major step back when or if Hill has to take over the role.
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Old 01-31-2020, 01:19 PM   #50
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Originally Posted by jeanpierre View Post
And there you have it...

https://twitter.com/CSimmsQB/status/1223241039458123778



Disclosure: Yes Chris Simms is a complete idiot, making the assumption he accurately quoted Brees' statement
In the same interview Drew slipped and said "we play both KC and the 49ers next year." It was very obvious he's not retiring. And neither he nor Hill have an issue with sharing the QB role.
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