New Orleans Saints running back Latavius Murray stepped up when called upon in 2019

jeanpierre · 02-04-2020, 04:26 PM

Originally Posted by AsylumGuido

It is incredible that an accomplished NFL head coach knows so little.

Yes it is, or worse he falls back into the same rut...

AsylumGuido · 02-04-2020, 05:19 PM

Originally Posted by jeanpierre

Yes it is, or worse he falls back into the same rut...

And to think that we as fans know more than he while the game is in progress. It is sad. I'd like to hear his excuses. But, to make matters worse, this happens to many other NFL coaches. They don't know what best at times. Yes, very sad.

jeanpierre · 02-04-2020, 10:51 PM

Originally Posted by AsylumGuido

And to think that we as fans know more than he while the game is in progress. It is sad. I'd like to hear his excuses. But, to make matters worse, this happens to many other NFL coaches. They don't know what best at times. Yes, very sad.

AG, as much as you'd like to convince everyone otherwise, professional footbal is not rocket science - Saints Fans watching Payton choke in the last few playoffs can clearly see his mistakes...

Remember K.I.S.S. (not the rock band)? Keep It Simple Stupid? Two simple case studies...

Coach O realized he was never gonna run on Bama, but LSU has always had a stable of Receivers (see NFL/LSU WRs); so he recruits a Saints Passing Game Coach and A QB Transfer and the 2019 Season is Legend...

Staying NFL, look at the Titans' Mike Vrabel; he lined 'em up, pounded the ball until teams put 8-9 in the box until they stalled, a few tosses from Tanneyhill deep, in-stride, on-target, repeat pounding with Henry...

Granted, not many people can make the right call with a national audience? But that doesn't mean a fan, familiar with the rules, history of the game, can't see Payton's gaffes and mistakes the past three playoffs...

Look no veteran of this forum could question your total dedication as a fan, Salud!, but it's an insult to folks' intelligence that they can't watch, learn the game and have an informed opinion it's not working...

An idiot could see that Murray and Taysom were having success pounding the ball inside on the Vikings, yet Kamara lacked the physicality to take the inside pounding, much less be effective...

Like it or not, Payton choked. Yeah, it sucks for all us Saints fans, but he choked. He fell back into his I'm smarter than anyone rather than just K.I.S.S. and keep pounding it till we scored...

But he's got tenure for life with this franchise and either he ups his game or we're gonna have another decade of 80s Don Shula mediocrity...

AsylumGuido · 02-05-2020, 06:42 AM

Originally Posted by jeanpierre

AG, as much as you'd like to convince everyone otherwise, professional footbal is not rocket science - Saints Fans watching Payton choke in the last few playoffs can clearly see his mistakes...

Remember K.I.S.S. (not the rock band)? Keep It Simple Stupid? Two simple case studies...

Coach O realized he was never gonna run on Bama, but LSU has always had a stable of Receivers (see NFL/LSU WRs); so he recruits a Saints Passing Game Coach and A QB Transfer and the 2019 Season is Legend...

Staying NFL, look at the Titans' Mike Vrabel; he lined 'em up, pounded the ball until teams put 8-9 in the box until they stalled, a few tosses from Tanneyhill deep, in-stride, on-target, repeat pounding with Henry...

Granted, not many people can make the right call with a national audience? But that doesn't mean a fan, familiar with the rules, history of the game, can't see Payton's gaffes and mistakes the past three playoffs...

Look no veteran of this forum could question your total dedication as a fan, Salud!, but it's an insult to folks' intelligence that they can't watch, learn the game and have an informed opinion it's not working...

An idiot could see that Murray and Taysom were having success pounding the ball inside on the Vikings, yet Kamara lacked the physicality to take the inside pounding, much less be effective...

Like it or not, Payton choked. Yeah, it sucks for all us Saints fans, but he choked. He fell back into his I'm smarter than anyone rather than just K.I.S.S. and keep pounding it till we scored...

But he's got tenure for life with this franchise and either he ups his game or we're gonna have another decade of 80s Don Shula mediocrity...

Or some people's wishes would come true and he'd be replaced by one of the other run of the mill coaches that will lead us back to the Ditka days.

It is easy for fans sitting back in their easy chairs to pick over in game choices made by coaches AFTER the game is over. We have no idea what factors came into play for the calling of a specific play at a specific time. Even the most knowledgeable fan doesn't watch the 22's and notice eight in the box and the QB audible to a pass. Perhaps Murray got dinged early? No idea.

K Major · 02-05-2020, 07:48 AM

Originally Posted by jeanpierre

An idiot could see that Murray and Taysom were having success pounding the ball inside on the Vikings, yet Kamara lacked the physicality to take the inside pounding, much less be effective...

Like it or not, Payton choked. Yeah, it sucks for all us Saints fans, but he choked. He fell back into his I'm smarter than anyone rather than just K.I.S.S. and keep pounding it till we scored...

But he's got tenure for life with this franchise and either he ups his game or we're gonna have another decade of 80s Don Shula mediocrity...[/B]

^^^ ^^^^

Sean Payton will need to change it up offensively ... specifically in the POST SEASON. The good teams have caught on to what we do offensively. You can't go through Brees (defenses don't respect anything past 20 yards) anymore to win it all.

Balance.

IMO things won't change much while #9 is under center; maybe adding a real #2 WR open things up a little but you need an effective run game.

Hopefully the Saints target a MOBILE QB in the draft. He doesn't have to be Lamar J but a kid who can move the chains with his feet on occasion. Vikes & Zimmers defense knew that was something they didn't have to worry about.

But back on topic, L Train still had a nice season with the carries he was given in 2019.

st thomas · 02-05-2020, 08:19 AM

Originally Posted by K Major

^^^ ^^^^

Sean Payton will need to change it up offensively ... specifically in the POST SEASON. The good teams have caught on to what we do offensively. You can't go through Brees (defenses don't respect anything past 20 yards) anymore to win it all.

Balance.

IMO things won't change much while #9 is under center; maybe adding a real #2 WR open things up a little but you need an effective run game.

Hopefully the Saints target a MOBILE QB in the draft. He doesn't have to be Lamar J but a kid who can move the chains with his feet on occasion. Vikes & Zimmers defense knew that was something they didn't have to worry about.

But back on topic, L Train still had a nice season with the carries he was given in 2019.

I think the L train did no worst than having mark here mater of fact a lot better I think. Wish we could have seen more.

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02-04-2020, 04:26 PM	#1
jeanpierre Site Donor 2018 Join Date: Mar 2008 Location: Thibodaux Posts: 43,543 Blog Entries: 39	Re: New Orleans Saints running back Latavius Murray stepped up when called upon in 2019 Originally Posted by AsylumGuido It is incredible that an accomplished NFL head coach knows so little. Yes it is, or worse he falls back into the same rut... RailBoss, SmashMouth, halloween 65 and 2 others like this.

02-04-2020, 10:51 PM	#3
jeanpierre Site Donor 2018 Join Date: Mar 2008 Location: Thibodaux Posts: 43,543 Blog Entries: 39	Re: New Orleans Saints running back Latavius Murray stepped up when called upon in 2019 Originally Posted by AsylumGuido And to think that we as fans know more than he while the game is in progress. It is sad. I'd like to hear his excuses. But, to make matters worse, this happens to many other NFL coaches. They don't know what best at times. Yes, very sad. AG, as much as you'd like to convince everyone otherwise, professional footbal is not rocket science - Saints Fans watching Payton choke in the last few playoffs can clearly see his mistakes... Remember K.I.S.S. (not the rock band)? Keep It Simple Stupid? Two simple case studies... Coach O realized he was never gonna run on Bama, but LSU has always had a stable of Receivers (see NFL/LSU WRs); so he recruits a Saints Passing Game Coach and A QB Transfer and the 2019 Season is Legend... Staying NFL, look at the Titans' Mike Vrabel; he lined 'em up, pounded the ball until teams put 8-9 in the box until they stalled, a few tosses from Tanneyhill deep, in-stride, on-target, repeat pounding with Henry... Granted, not many people can make the right call with a national audience? But that doesn't mean a fan, familiar with the rules, history of the game, can't see Payton's gaffes and mistakes the past three playoffs... Look no veteran of this forum could question your total dedication as a fan, Salud!, but it's an insult to folks' intelligence that they can't watch, learn the game and have an informed opinion it's not working... An idiot could see that Murray and Taysom were having success pounding the ball inside on the Vikings, yet Kamara lacked the physicality to take the inside pounding, much less be effective... Like it or not, Payton choked. Yeah, it sucks for all us Saints fans, but he choked. He fell back into his I'm smarter than anyone rather than just K.I.S.S. and keep pounding it till we scored... But he's got tenure for life with this franchise and either he ups his game or we're gonna have another decade of 80s Don Shula mediocrity... Rsanders24, SmashMouth, 73Saint and 1 others like this.
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02-05-2020, 06:42 AM	#4
AsylumGuido 10000 POST CLUB Join Date: Sep 2007 Location: Bossier City, LA Posts: 26,871	Re: New Orleans Saints running back Latavius Murray stepped up when called upon in 2019 Originally Posted by jeanpierre AG, as much as you'd like to convince everyone otherwise, professional footbal is not rocket science - Saints Fans watching Payton choke in the last few playoffs can clearly see his mistakes... Remember K.I.S.S. (not the rock band)? Keep It Simple Stupid? Two simple case studies... Coach O realized he was never gonna run on Bama, but LSU has always had a stable of Receivers (see NFL/LSU WRs); so he recruits a Saints Passing Game Coach and A QB Transfer and the 2019 Season is Legend... Staying NFL, look at the Titans' Mike Vrabel; he lined 'em up, pounded the ball until teams put 8-9 in the box until they stalled, a few tosses from Tanneyhill deep, in-stride, on-target, repeat pounding with Henry... Granted, not many people can make the right call with a national audience? But that doesn't mean a fan, familiar with the rules, history of the game, can't see Payton's gaffes and mistakes the past three playoffs... Look no veteran of this forum could question your total dedication as a fan, Salud!, but it's an insult to folks' intelligence that they can't watch, learn the game and have an informed opinion it's not working... An idiot could see that Murray and Taysom were having success pounding the ball inside on the Vikings, yet Kamara lacked the physicality to take the inside pounding, much less be effective... Like it or not, Payton choked. Yeah, it sucks for all us Saints fans, but he choked. He fell back into his I'm smarter than anyone rather than just K.I.S.S. and keep pounding it till we scored... But he's got tenure for life with this franchise and either he ups his game or we're gonna have another decade of 80s Don Shula mediocrity... Or some people's wishes would come true and he'd be replaced by one of the other run of the mill coaches that will lead us back to the Ditka days. It is easy for fans sitting back in their easy chairs to pick over in game choices made by coaches AFTER the game is over. We have no idea what factors came into play for the calling of a specific play at a specific time. Even the most knowledgeable fan doesn't watch the 22's and notice eight in the box and the QB audible to a pass. Perhaps Murray got dinged early? No idea.
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02-05-2020, 07:48 AM	#5
K Major Site Donor 2019 Join Date: Jan 2013 Location: Bedford, TX Posts: 24,879 Blog Entries: 3	Re: New Orleans Saints running back Latavius Murray stepped up when called upon in 2019 Originally Posted by jeanpierre An idiot could see that Murray and Taysom were having success pounding the ball inside on the Vikings, yet Kamara lacked the physicality to take the inside pounding, much less be effective... Like it or not, Payton choked. Yeah, it sucks for all us Saints fans, but he choked. He fell back into his I'm smarter than anyone rather than just K.I.S.S. and keep pounding it till we scored... But he's got tenure for life with this franchise and either he ups his game or we're gonna have another decade of 80s Don Shula mediocrity...[/B] ^^^ ^^^^ Sean Payton will need to change it up offensively ... specifically in the POST SEASON. The good teams have caught on to what we do offensively. You can't go through Brees (defenses don't respect anything past 20 yards) anymore to win it all. Balance. IMO things won't change much while #9 is under center; maybe adding a real #2 WR open things up a little but you need an effective run game. Hopefully the Saints target a MOBILE QB in the draft. He doesn't have to be Lamar J but a kid who can move the chains with his feet on occasion. Vikes & Zimmers defense knew that was something they didn't have to worry about. But back on topic, L Train still had a nice season with the carries he was given in 2019.

02-05-2020, 08:19 AM	#6
st thomas Site Donor 2018 Join Date: Dec 2009 Location: lafayette Posts: 7,753	Re: New Orleans Saints running back Latavius Murray stepped up when called upon in 2019 Originally Posted by K Major ^^^ ^^^^ Sean Payton will need to change it up offensively ... specifically in the POST SEASON. The good teams have caught on to what we do offensively. You can't go through Brees (defenses don't respect anything past 20 yards) anymore to win it all. Balance. IMO things won't change much while #9 is under center; maybe adding a real #2 WR open things up a little but you need an effective run game. Hopefully the Saints target a MOBILE QB in the draft. He doesn't have to be Lamar J but a kid who can move the chains with his feet on occasion. Vikes & Zimmers defense knew that was something they didn't have to worry about. But back on topic, L Train still had a nice season with the carries he was given in 2019. I think the L train did no worst than having mark here mater of fact a lot better I think. Wish we could have seen more. Sent from my iPhone using Tapatalk

02-04-2020, 05:19 PM	#2
AsylumGuido 10000 POST CLUB Join Date: Sep 2007 Location: Bossier City, LA Posts: 26,871	Re: New Orleans Saints running back Latavius Murray stepped up when called upon in 2019 Originally Posted by jeanpierre Yes it is, or worse he falls back into the same rut... And to think that we as fans know more than he while the game is in progress. It is sad. I'd like to hear his excuses. But, to make matters worse, this happens to many other NFL coaches. They don't know what best at times. Yes, very sad. WW_Who_Dat likes this.

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