N/S Your take on the XFL

RaginCajun83 · 03-02-2020, 10:37 PM

Houston 4-0 oh yeah

burningmetal · 03-02-2020, 11:13 PM

Originally Posted by AsylumGuido

This league and their rules were not made in a vacuum from the NFL. There are NFL people on every level of the XFL and I'll guarantee you that all of these rules have been discussed in the NFL back rooms. The XFL is not meant to be competition for the NFL ... not now or in the future. What it is is a proving ground for players, coaches, front office, officials AND rules for the NFL.

You always have a way of making false statements with tremendous conviction, my friend. This is ABSOLUTELY meant to be competition for the NFL. Now, who knows how far it will actually go, but we're talking about Vince McMahon. This guy is not looking to be the NFL's developmental league. He wants to make a mark with HIS brand, whether his ideas are good or bad.

Competing with the NFL doesn't mean it's going to take down the NFL. It means trying to do things better than them and establish a brand that people will enjoy more than the NFL. And that would either force the NFL to make changes to counter, or they risk losing a lot of fans. And if as many people who watch the NFL were also watching the XFL in a few years, teams in the XFL could start making financial offers to NFL players that draw them away.

That's all in theory, and all takes time. But you can be sure that is what the goal is. The AAF was what was never meant as competition. It was very clear the NFL was using it as not just a developmental league, but a testing ground for rules changes, and that's why it folded before it even finished it's first season. People wanted to see something more along the lines of what football used to be, before the NFL wussified it, and all they got was a watered down version of the same garbage.

vpheughan · 03-03-2020, 09:01 AM

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AsylumGuido · 03-03-2020, 10:32 AM

Originally Posted by burningmetal

You always have a way of making false statements with tremendous conviction, my friend. This is ABSOLUTELY meant to be competition for the NFL. Now, who knows how far it will actually go, but we're talking about Vince McMahon. This guy is not looking to be the NFL's developmental league. He wants to make a mark with HIS brand, whether his ideas are good or bad.

Competing with the NFL doesn't mean it's going to take down the NFL. It means trying to do things better than them and establish a brand that people will enjoy more than the NFL. And that would either force the NFL to make changes to counter, or they risk losing a lot of fans. And if as many people who watch the NFL were also watching the XFL in a few years, teams in the XFL could start making financial offers to NFL players that draw them away.

That's all in theory, and all takes time. But you can be sure that is what the goal is. The AAF was what was never meant as competition. It was very clear the NFL was using it as not just a developmental league, but a testing ground for rules changes, and that's why it folded before it even finished it's first season. People wanted to see something more along the lines of what football used to be, before the NFL wussified it, and all they got was a watered down version of the same garbage.

Believe what you wish. Hoping to fill a niche is not competition. It is completely the opposite. The XFL is hoping to flourish off of the success of the NFL. The fact that their season started the week after the NFL season ended was intentional as to ride the coattails of the NFL. The league's own CEO and Commissioner, Oliver Luck, has explicitly stated that the league is absolutely not in competition with the NFL.

It would take decades of success to grow to the point of ever competing for the viewership that the NFL currently enjoys. Their best hope for any long term success is to do exactly what they are doing ... being the NFL's lapdog.

ScottF · 03-03-2020, 12:00 PM

Rumor here is that Atl is getting the next franchise.

The Falcons are going to switch leagues.

burningmetal · 03-03-2020, 01:20 PM

Originally Posted by AsylumGuido

Believe what you wish. Hoping to fill a niche is not competition. It is completely the opposite. The XFL is hoping to flourish off of the success of the NFL. The fact that their season started the week after the NFL season ended was intentional as to ride the coattails of the NFL. The league's own CEO and Commissioner, Oliver Luck, has explicitly stated that the league is absolutely not in competition with the NFL.

It would take decades of success to grow to the point of ever competing for the viewership that the NFL currently enjoys. Their best hope for any long term success is to do exactly what they are doing ... being the NFL's lapdog.

How are they hoping to fill a niche, as opposed to trying to create a football league that people might enjoy? Because you say so? Are you that threatened that someone might consider making a run at the league that you evidently worship, that you can't accept any other reality?

You clearly did not grasp the concept of what I said before. The object is not to compete in season with the NFL and take it down. It's to create a league that people will enjoy and give them a reprieve from wussball. And that appeals to a lot more people than you seem to realize. Of course it takes time for it to build it's brand. I said as much, and I am also not predicting that it will definitely succeed. I'm telling you what the goal is.

You don't start a new league in the middle of an established league. That's why they started after the Super Bowl. It's not about riding coattails. And of course their commissioner is going to say they aren't competing with the NFL. It's not a head to head match, it's a process. And these guys aren't dumb enough to come out and say "we're going to war with the NFL". It's incredible to me that you would expect otherwise.

If they don't try to separate themselves from the NFL, they won't last. And they might NOT last. But it's been proven that being a "lapdog" for the NFL doesn't interest people. And Vince McMahon, regardless of what you think of him, is nothing if not a ruthless business competitor. It's not in his personality to just get by. We'll see how it works.

st thomas · 03-03-2020, 01:31 PM

Originally Posted by ScottF

Rumor here is that Atl is getting the next franchise.

The Falcons are going to switch leagues.

Ha ha ha good one

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WillMacKenzie · 03-03-2020, 03:11 PM

The little I saw of Houston vs Dallas, the Houston line looks legit.

K Major · 03-03-2020, 03:26 PM

Originally Posted by WillMacKenzie

The little I saw of Houston vs Dallas, the Houston line looks legit.

What about that Dallas Renegade QB though?

Landry is tough on the eyes. He's turning into Jameis Winston of the XFL.

No need to help Houston out, they're good enough as it is.

Some fans in the crowd were chanting "bench him, bench him" after his 3rd INT.

K Major · 03-03-2020, 04:00 PM

The Jacksonville Jaguars and Denver Broncos have agreed to a trade that would send Jags cornerback A.J. Bouye to the Mile High City for a 2020 fourth-round draft pick, ESPN's Adam Schefter reports, citing a league source.

https://www.thescore.com/nfl/news/19...4th-round-pick

https://www.espn.com/nfl/story/_/id/...rth-round-pick

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03-02-2020, 10:37 PM	#61
RaginCajun83 Hou Saints Fan Join Date: Sep 2009 Location: Houston, Tx Posts: 5,050	Re: N/S Your take on the XFL Houston 4-0 oh yeah

03-02-2020, 11:13 PM	#62
burningmetal 1000 Posts + Join Date: Mar 2012 Posts: 3,923 Blog Entries: 3	Re: N/S Your take on the XFL Originally Posted by AsylumGuido This league and their rules were not made in a vacuum from the NFL. There are NFL people on every level of the XFL and I'll guarantee you that all of these rules have been discussed in the NFL back rooms. The XFL is not meant to be competition for the NFL ... not now or in the future. What it is is a proving ground for players, coaches, front office, officials AND rules for the NFL. You always have a way of making false statements with tremendous conviction, my friend. This is ABSOLUTELY meant to be competition for the NFL. Now, who knows how far it will actually go, but we're talking about Vince McMahon. This guy is not looking to be the NFL's developmental league. He wants to make a mark with HIS brand, whether his ideas are good or bad. Competing with the NFL doesn't mean it's going to take down the NFL. It means trying to do things better than them and establish a brand that people will enjoy more than the NFL. And that would either force the NFL to make changes to counter, or they risk losing a lot of fans. And if as many people who watch the NFL were also watching the XFL in a few years, teams in the XFL could start making financial offers to NFL players that draw them away. That's all in theory, and all takes time. But you can be sure that is what the goal is. The AAF was what was never meant as competition. It was very clear the NFL was using it as not just a developmental league, but a testing ground for rules changes, and that's why it folded before it even finished it's first season. People wanted to see something more along the lines of what football used to be, before the NFL wussified it, and all they got was a watered down version of the same garbage. K Major likes this.
	If I had a nickel for every time I heard that, the NFL would fine and suspend me.

03-03-2020, 09:01 AM	#63
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03-03-2020, 10:32 AM	#64
AsylumGuido 10000 POST CLUB Join Date: Sep 2007 Location: Bossier City, LA Posts: 26,274	Re: N/S Your take on the XFL Originally Posted by burningmetal You always have a way of making false statements with tremendous conviction, my friend. This is ABSOLUTELY meant to be competition for the NFL. Now, who knows how far it will actually go, but we're talking about Vince McMahon. This guy is not looking to be the NFL's developmental league. He wants to make a mark with HIS brand, whether his ideas are good or bad. Competing with the NFL doesn't mean it's going to take down the NFL. It means trying to do things better than them and establish a brand that people will enjoy more than the NFL. And that would either force the NFL to make changes to counter, or they risk losing a lot of fans. And if as many people who watch the NFL were also watching the XFL in a few years, teams in the XFL could start making financial offers to NFL players that draw them away. That's all in theory, and all takes time. But you can be sure that is what the goal is. The AAF was what was never meant as competition. It was very clear the NFL was using it as not just a developmental league, but a testing ground for rules changes, and that's why it folded before it even finished it's first season. People wanted to see something more along the lines of what football used to be, before the NFL wussified it, and all they got was a watered down version of the same garbage. Believe what you wish. Hoping to fill a niche is not competition. It is completely the opposite. The XFL is hoping to flourish off of the success of the NFL. The fact that their season started the week after the NFL season ended was intentional as to ride the coattails of the NFL. The league's own CEO and Commissioner, Oliver Luck, has explicitly stated that the league is absolutely not in competition with the NFL. It would take decades of success to grow to the point of ever competing for the viewership that the NFL currently enjoys. Their best hope for any long term success is to do exactly what they are doing ... being the NFL's lapdog.
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03-03-2020, 12:00 PM	#65
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03-03-2020, 01:20 PM	#66
burningmetal 1000 Posts + Join Date: Mar 2012 Posts: 3,923 Blog Entries: 3	Re: N/S Your take on the XFL Originally Posted by AsylumGuido Believe what you wish. Hoping to fill a niche is not competition. It is completely the opposite. The XFL is hoping to flourish off of the success of the NFL. The fact that their season started the week after the NFL season ended was intentional as to ride the coattails of the NFL. The league's own CEO and Commissioner, Oliver Luck, has explicitly stated that the league is absolutely not in competition with the NFL. It would take decades of success to grow to the point of ever competing for the viewership that the NFL currently enjoys. Their best hope for any long term success is to do exactly what they are doing ... being the NFL's lapdog. How are they hoping to fill a niche, as opposed to trying to create a football league that people might enjoy? Because you say so? Are you that threatened that someone might consider making a run at the league that you evidently worship, that you can't accept any other reality? You clearly did not grasp the concept of what I said before. The object is not to compete in season with the NFL and take it down. It's to create a league that people will enjoy and give them a reprieve from wussball. And that appeals to a lot more people than you seem to realize. Of course it takes time for it to build it's brand. I said as much, and I am also not predicting that it will definitely succeed. I'm telling you what the goal is. You don't start a new league in the middle of an established league. That's why they started after the Super Bowl. It's not about riding coattails. And of course their commissioner is going to say they aren't competing with the NFL. It's not a head to head match, it's a process. And these guys aren't dumb enough to come out and say "we're going to war with the NFL". It's incredible to me that you would expect otherwise. If they don't try to separate themselves from the NFL, they won't last. And they might NOT last. But it's been proven that being a "lapdog" for the NFL doesn't interest people. And Vince McMahon, regardless of what you think of him, is nothing if not a ruthless business competitor. It's not in his personality to just get by. We'll see how it works. K Major likes this.
	If I had a nickel for every time I heard that, the NFL would fine and suspend me.

03-03-2020, 01:31 PM	#67
st thomas Site Donor 2018 Join Date: Dec 2009 Location: lafayette Posts: 7,753	Re: N/S Your take on the XFL Originally Posted by ScottF Rumor here is that Atl is getting the next franchise. The Falcons are going to switch leagues. Ha ha ha good one Sent from my iPhone using Tapatalk

03-03-2020, 03:11 PM	#68
WillMacKenzie 1000 Posts + Join Date: Jan 2007 Posts: 1,627	Re: N/S Your take on the XFL The little I saw of Houston vs Dallas, the Houston line looks legit. K Major likes this.

03-03-2020, 03:26 PM	#69
K Major Site Donor 2019 Join Date: Jan 2013 Location: Bedford, TX Posts: 24,622 Blog Entries: 3	Re: N/S Your take on the XFL Originally Posted by WillMacKenzie The little I saw of Houston vs Dallas, the Houston line looks legit. What about that Dallas Renegade QB though? Landry is tough on the eyes. He's turning into Jameis Winston of the XFL. No need to help Houston out, they're good enough as it is. Some fans in the crowd were chanting "bench him, bench him" after his 3rd INT. WillMacKenzie likes this.

03-03-2020, 04:00 PM	#70
K Major Site Donor 2019 Join Date: Jan 2013 Location: Bedford, TX Posts: 24,622 Blog Entries: 3	Re: N/S Your take on the XFL The Jacksonville Jaguars and Denver Broncos have agreed to a trade that would send Jags cornerback A.J. Bouye to the Mile High City for a 2020 fourth-round draft pick, ESPN's Adam Schefter reports, citing a league source. https://www.thescore.com/nfl/news/19...4th-round-pick https://www.espn.com/nfl/story/_/id/...rth-round-pick MODS .... placed topic in wrong thread. Please delete