Ten Educated Guesses On All The 2020 Offseason QB Movement

SaintFanInATLHELL · 02-18-2020, 01:05 PM

Originally Posted by Crusader

$20 Million.

OK. Since Brees would rightly walk away from that insult then who is your next Saints QB that you plan to pay $20 million or less?

You are aware that the top NFL QB market is around $35 million a year right? Maholmes is likely to get a $40 million average salary. So why exactly would you insult Brees with such a lowball offer?

SFIAH

AsylumGuido · 02-18-2020, 01:09 PM

Originally Posted by Crusader

$20 Million.

Based upon what criteria? The top 16 QB's in average salary are all making in excess of $20 million. So you are saying that Brees, in your opinion, belongs in the lower half of starting QB's, right?

Many would argue that Brees remains one of the top five, but surely one of the top ten QB's in the league today. $25 million per year is the tenth highest salary as of today in the NFL. The top five are all making $32 million per year or more.

Crusader · 02-20-2020, 06:26 AM

Originally Posted by AsylumGuido

Based upon what criteria? The top 16 QB's in average salary are all making in excess of $20 million. So you are saying that Brees, in your opinion, belongs in the lower half of starting QB's, right?

Many would argue that Brees remains one of the top five, but surely one of the top ten QB's in the league today. $25 million per year is the tenth highest salary as of today in the NFL. The top five are all making $32 million per year or more.

Average schmaverage. We have a ton of younger guys that I'd rather see we spend the Money on and we have a couple of pretty big needs to fill to have a legitimate shot on a title.
I have pretty little patience with a player maybe wanting $30 million a year if that keeps us out of contention. Brees is top five but can't win it alone. He either cares about winning or getting paid. I don't care if its either one but if its the latter I just hope he is perfectly honest about it. And none of the "he needs to take care of his family" BS. None of his decendants will ever have to work if they don't squander the fortune he has amassed.

https://www.theringer.com/nfl/2019/1...atrick-mahomes

WW_Who_Dat · 02-18-2020, 09:14 AM

Your worst nightmare is happening. Said it during or shortly after TB’s time behind center this year ... no way he returns to Saints in 2020. The job will not be offered, Brees will resign and Hill will resign and be given the first shot following Drew.

Will not take anything away from what TB accomplish but I just do not see him as the heir apparent QB in Coach’s offense.

CHA_CHING · 02-18-2020, 09:10 PM

Well, since we know Brees is coming back for sure now, any new guesses?

Here's mine -

1. We finish 9-7, 10-6 or 11-5. I'm going with 9-7 if the NFC South truly improves, the other 2 records if we get to slide through a cupcake division again.

2. Defense regresses a bit due to Mike Nolan's departure. We know how this is going to be with Allen.

3. Offense struggles with 3rd down percentage again like 2013 and 2017. They'll still rack up stats, but they aren't going to finish in the top 5.

4. We lose in the playoffs yet again with Brees playing badly, meanwhile the opposing QB (bonus points if it's some mediocre QB who hasn't won a playoff game) has the game of his life and possibly one big play that just seals it. I'm going with an NFC West opponent here. I can see Wilson throwing up a hail mary to beat us, or Goff or Garropolo having a career game against us.

AsylumGuido · 02-19-2020, 07:12 AM

Originally Posted by CHA_CHING

Well, since we know Brees is coming back for sure now, any new guesses?

Here's mine -

1. We finish 9-7, 10-6 or 11-5. I'm going with 9-7 if the NFC South truly improves, the other 2 records if we get to slide through a cupcake division again.

2. Defense regresses a bit due to Mike Nolan's departure. We know how this is going to be with Allen.

3. Offense struggles with 3rd down percentage again like 2013 and 2017. They'll still rack up stats, but they aren't going to finish in the top 5.

4. We lose in the playoffs yet again with Brees playing badly, meanwhile the opposing QB (bonus points if it's some mediocre QB who hasn't won a playoff game) has the game of his life and possibly one big play that just seals it. I'm going with an NFC West opponent here. I can see Wilson throwing up a hail mary to beat us, or Goff or Garropolo having a career game against us.

Nope. Carnac knows all.

But officially, 19-0!

halloween 65 · 02-19-2020, 07:19 AM

I'm waiting to see who picks up Bridgewater? BB might be licking his chops waiting on Bridgewater. Their in rebuild mold needing around 2 years the way BB works, that gives Bridgewater the time he needs to truely learn the playbook. NE is where I think he ends up. I'm going to hate to lose this guy.

K Major · 02-19-2020, 08:38 AM

Originally Posted by halloween 65

I'm waiting to see who picks up Bridgewater? BB might be licking his chops waiting on Bridgewater. Their in rebuild mold needing around 2 years the way BB works, that gives Bridgewater the time he needs to truely learn the playbook. NE is where I think he ends up. I'm going to hate to lose this guy.

We shall see soon enough.

But hey, good for 2 Glove Teddy. He deserves the opportunity to start again after that horrific injury, turning down the job in his home city to stay as our back up.

Colts (I don't think they believe in Brissette is the long term answer), Bucs (Jameis is probably gone) & maybe the Dolphins again ... potential "landing spots".

Now that TB is positioning himself on getting paid & Andrus Peat getting OVERPAID ... compensatory picks coming perhaps?

ScottF · 02-19-2020, 09:58 AM

Originally Posted by K Major

We shall see soon enough.

Now that TB is positioning himself on getting paid & Andrus Peat getting OVERPAID ... compensatory picks coming perhaps?

Very, very likely.
even after we sprinkle Loomis Dust on the cap we won't have more than 15 million to spend. Just Teddy and Peat will come close to that. Add 1-2 defenders that we will inevitably lose (Klein, Robinson, David O) and we will be in the black.

AsylumGuido · 02-19-2020, 10:35 AM

Originally Posted by ScottF

Very, very likely.
even after we sprinkle Loomis Dust on the cap we won't have more than 15 million to spend. Just Teddy and Peat will come close to that. Add 1-2 defenders that we will inevitably lose (Klein, Robinson, David O) and we will be in the black.

Read an article about a week ago that demonstrated how New Orleans could free up $54 million in cap through bonus conversions, extensions, restructures and cuts. Of course, it was incumbent upon keeping Brees ... which has happened.

02-18-2020, 01:05 PM	#1
SaintFanInATLHELL The Professor Join Date: Oct 2003 Location: Lithonia, GA Posts: 2,789	Re: Ten Educated Guesses On All The 2020 Offseason QB Movement Originally Posted by Crusader $20 Million. OK. Since Brees would rightly walk away from that insult then who is your next Saints QB that you plan to pay $20 million or less? You are aware that the top NFL QB market is around $35 million a year right? Maholmes is likely to get a $40 million average salary. So why exactly would you insult Brees with such a lowball offer? SFIAH AsylumGuido likes this.

02-18-2020, 01:09 PM	#2
AsylumGuido 10000 POST CLUB Join Date: Sep 2007 Location: Bossier City, LA Posts: 26,871	Re: Ten Educated Guesses On All The 2020 Offseason QB Movement Originally Posted by Crusader $20 Million. Based upon what criteria? The top 16 QB's in average salary are all making in excess of $20 million. So you are saying that Brees, in your opinion, belongs in the lower half of starting QB's, right? Many would argue that Brees remains one of the top five, but surely one of the top ten QB's in the league today. $25 million per year is the tenth highest salary as of today in the NFL. The top five are all making $32 million per year or more. SaintFanInATLHELL likes this.

02-20-2020, 06:26 AM	#3
Crusader Resident Swede Join Date: Sep 2005 Location: Märsta, Sweden Posts: 8,054	Re: Ten Educated Guesses On All The 2020 Offseason QB Movement Originally Posted by AsylumGuido Based upon what criteria? The top 16 QB's in average salary are all making in excess of $20 million. So you are saying that Brees, in your opinion, belongs in the lower half of starting QB's, right? Many would argue that Brees remains one of the top five, but surely one of the top ten QB's in the league today. $25 million per year is the tenth highest salary as of today in the NFL. The top five are all making $32 million per year or more. Average schmaverage. We have a ton of younger guys that I'd rather see we spend the Money on and we have a couple of pretty big needs to fill to have a legitimate shot on a title. I have pretty little patience with a player maybe wanting $30 million a year if that keeps us out of contention. Brees is top five but can't win it alone. He either cares about winning or getting paid. I don't care if its either one but if its the latter I just hope he is perfectly honest about it. And none of the "he needs to take care of his family" BS. None of his decendants will ever have to work if they don't squander the fortune he has amassed. https://www.theringer.com/nfl/2019/1...atrick-mahomes halloween 65 and K Major like this.
	W.T. Sherman is my favorite General. After all he did order Atlanta to be burned to the ground.

02-18-2020, 09:14 AM	#4
WW_Who_Dat 1000 Posts + Join Date: Nov 2009 Location: Lafayette, La and Valencia CA Posts: 1,282 Blog Entries: 1	Re: Ten Educated Guesses On All The 2020 Offseason QB Movement Your worst nightmare is happening. Said it during or shortly after TB’s time behind center this year ... no way he returns to Saints in 2020. The job will not be offered, Brees will resign and Hill will resign and be given the first shot following Drew. Will not take anything away from what TB accomplish but I just do not see him as the heir apparent QB in Coach’s offense.

02-18-2020, 09:10 PM	#5
CHA_CHING 1000 Posts + Join Date: Jan 2019 Location: Mobile, AL Posts: 1,159	Re: Ten Educated Guesses On All The 2020 Offseason QB Movement Well, since we know Brees is coming back for sure now, any new guesses? Here's mine - 1. We finish 9-7, 10-6 or 11-5. I'm going with 9-7 if the NFC South truly improves, the other 2 records if we get to slide through a cupcake division again. 2. Defense regresses a bit due to Mike Nolan's departure. We know how this is going to be with Allen. 3. Offense struggles with 3rd down percentage again like 2013 and 2017. They'll still rack up stats, but they aren't going to finish in the top 5. 4. We lose in the playoffs yet again with Brees playing badly, meanwhile the opposing QB (bonus points if it's some mediocre QB who hasn't won a playoff game) has the game of his life and possibly one big play that just seals it. I'm going with an NFC West opponent here. I can see Wilson throwing up a hail mary to beat us, or Goff or Garropolo having a career game against us.

02-19-2020, 07:12 AM	#6
AsylumGuido 10000 POST CLUB Join Date: Sep 2007 Location: Bossier City, LA Posts: 26,871	Re: Ten Educated Guesses On All The 2020 Offseason QB Movement Originally Posted by CHA_CHING Well, since we know Brees is coming back for sure now, any new guesses? Here's mine - 1. We finish 9-7, 10-6 or 11-5. I'm going with 9-7 if the NFC South truly improves, the other 2 records if we get to slide through a cupcake division again. 2. Defense regresses a bit due to Mike Nolan's departure. We know how this is going to be with Allen. 3. Offense struggles with 3rd down percentage again like 2013 and 2017. They'll still rack up stats, but they aren't going to finish in the top 5. 4. We lose in the playoffs yet again with Brees playing badly, meanwhile the opposing QB (bonus points if it's some mediocre QB who hasn't won a playoff game) has the game of his life and possibly one big play that just seals it. I'm going with an NFC West opponent here. I can see Wilson throwing up a hail mary to beat us, or Goff or Garropolo having a career game against us. Nope. Carnac knows all. But officially, 19-0!

02-19-2020, 07:19 AM	#7
halloween 65 5000 POSTS! + Join Date: Sep 2011 Location: Grand Haven, Michigan by way of a little Mississippi River town in Louisiana Posts: 5,893	Re: Ten Educated Guesses On All The 2020 Offseason QB Movement I'm waiting to see who picks up Bridgewater? BB might be licking his chops waiting on Bridgewater. Their in rebuild mold needing around 2 years the way BB works, that gives Bridgewater the time he needs to truely learn the playbook. NE is where I think he ends up. I'm going to hate to lose this guy.

02-19-2020, 08:38 AM	#8
K Major Site Donor 2019 Join Date: Jan 2013 Location: Bedford, TX Posts: 24,883 Blog Entries: 3	Re: Ten Educated Guesses On All The 2020 Offseason QB Movement Originally Posted by halloween 65 I'm waiting to see who picks up Bridgewater? BB might be licking his chops waiting on Bridgewater. Their in rebuild mold needing around 2 years the way BB works, that gives Bridgewater the time he needs to truely learn the playbook. NE is where I think he ends up. I'm going to hate to lose this guy. We shall see soon enough. But hey, good for 2 Glove Teddy. He deserves the opportunity to start again after that horrific injury, turning down the job in his home city to stay as our back up. Colts (I don't think they believe in Brissette is the long term answer), Bucs (Jameis is probably gone) & maybe the Dolphins again ... potential "landing spots". Now that TB is positioning himself on getting paid & Andrus Peat getting OVERPAID ... compensatory picks coming perhaps?

02-19-2020, 09:58 AM	#9
ScottF 5000 POSTS! + Join Date: Feb 2007 Location: Atlanta Posts: 6,324	Re: Ten Educated Guesses On All The 2020 Offseason QB Movement Originally Posted by K Major We shall see soon enough. Now that TB is positioning himself on getting paid & Andrus Peat getting OVERPAID ... compensatory picks coming perhaps? Very, very likely. even after we sprinkle Loomis Dust on the cap we won't have more than 15 million to spend. Just Teddy and Peat will come close to that. Add 1-2 defenders that we will inevitably lose (Klein, Robinson, David O) and we will be in the black.

02-19-2020, 10:35 AM	#10
AsylumGuido 10000 POST CLUB Join Date: Sep 2007 Location: Bossier City, LA Posts: 26,871	Re: Ten Educated Guesses On All The 2020 Offseason QB Movement Originally Posted by ScottF Very, very likely. even after we sprinkle Loomis Dust on the cap we won't have more than 15 million to spend. Just Teddy and Peat will come close to that. Add 1-2 defenders that we will inevitably lose (Klein, Robinson, David O) and we will be in the black. Read an article about a week ago that demonstrated how New Orleans could free up $54 million in cap through bonus conversions, extensions, restructures and cuts. Of course, it was incumbent upon keeping Brees ... which has happened.

LinkBacks (?) LinkBack to this Thread: https://blackandgold.com/saints/97101-ten-educated-guesses-all-2020-offseason-qb-movement.html
Posted By	For	Type	Date	Hits
Ten Educated Guesses On All The 2020 Offseason QB Movement	This thread	Refback	02-17-2020 09:27 AM	4