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2020 New Orleans Saints: Roster Outlook
this is a discussion within the Saints Community Forum; Originally Posted by jeanpierre Reason why I point this out, recognizing many similarities, in so far as the player position rankings, to the 2011 NFL Draft when we took Cam Jordan at No. 24... Epenesa reminds me of Cam Jordan ...
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03-13-2020, 10:05 AM
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Re: 2020 New Orleans Saints: Roster Outlook
Originally Posted by jeanpierre
Last thing on the DE situation ...
Davenport has yet to prove (2 seasons and counting) he can stay healthy. Love his ability to set the edge (when healthy), speed and talent to get in the backfield but he was watching his team in street clothes when we needed him the most - see Vikings wild card game. Cam J needs help coming off the edge. Signing a mid/lower tier DE (think Okafor) in Free Agency would help our depth & rotation. |
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03-13-2020, 11:20 AM
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Re: 2020 New Orleans Saints: Roster Outlook
Originally Posted by K Major
i would like robert quinn i knew we were interested before he went to dallas
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03-14-2020, 04:10 AM
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Re: 2020 New Orleans Saints: Roster Outlook
Originally Posted by RefsRobbedUs
To me, there are two general types of defensive linemen, big and strong who controlling the line of scrimmage versus quick and fast, disrupters who penetrate and attack the ball carriers before the play can set up...
The former group of big, strong tend to have longer careers than the latter speed guys mainly due to age plus wear & tear; my concern with Quinn is that he'll be 30 this season... Epenesa is very much like the big and strong type of lineman that Cam Jordan is and that's why I'm seeing in rankings and mocks there's a chance he could fall to us which presents an intriguing situation... |
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03-14-2020, 04:25 AM
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Re: 2020 New Orleans Saints: Roster Outlook
Originally Posted by K Major
Under 30yo Defensive Ends:
Dante Fowler and Bud Dupree have been disappointing until 2019 when each had 11.5 sacks last year; so did they figure things out or contract year performers? Both likely are unaffordable, too big a risk... Carl Nassib has had at least 6.0 sacks in his two seasons with Tampa Bay and is comparable in build to Davenport, and we currently have this performer in Hendrickson... Emmanuel Ogbah had 5.0 sacks in ten games for the Chiefs, but has been unable to be available, so is signing a guy who likely won't be around in the playoffs really productive? Then there's the curious case of 49ers FA Ronald Blair who's had some success in limited reps on a talented 49ers defensive line. Is the success due to surrounding talent (Bama effect) or is there value? |
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03-14-2020, 03:03 PM
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03-15-2020, 05:26 AM
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Re: 2020 New Orleans Saints: Roster Outlook
SAINTS DEPTH CHART - 2020 New Orleans Saints – Free Agency Eve (maybe
 )OFFENSE QB (2) 9 – Drew Brees, 7 - Taysom Hill (RFA 2020) RB (3) 41 - Alvin Kamara, 28 - Latavius Murray, 44 - Taquan Mizzel FB (1) 30 - Ricky Ortiz WR-X (4) 13 - Michael Thomas, 18 - Keith Kirkwood (ERFA 2020), 17 - Emmanuel Butler (RFC 2020), 15 - Maurice Harris (RFC 2020) WR-S (3) 81 - Krishawn Hogan, 84 - Lil’Jordan Humphrey, 80 - Austin Carr (RFA - 2020) LT (2) 72 - Terron Armstead, 73 - Ethan Greenidge LG (2) 62 - Nick Easton, 68 - Derrick Kelly (RFC 2020) C (2) 78 - Erik McCoy, 63 - Cameron Tom (RFA 2020) RG (2) 67 - Larry Warford, 64 - Will Clapp RT (1) 71 - Ryan Ramcyzk TE (5) 87 - Jared Cook, 89 - Josh Hill, 86 - Jason Vander Laan, 45 - Garrett Griffin, 85 - Cole Wick (RFC 2020) WR-Z (4) 10 - Tra'Quan Smith, 11 - Deonte Harris, 14 - Tim White (RFC 2020), 16 - TommyLee Lewis (RFC 2020) DEFENSE RDE (3) 92 - Marcus Davenport, 96 - Carl Granderson, 97 - Mario Edwards NT (2) 90 - Malcolm Brown, 95 - Taylor Stallworth DT3 (3) 98 - Sheldon Rankins, 99 - Shy Tuttle, 77 - Jalen Dalton (RFC 2020) LDE (3) 94 - Cam Jordan, 91 - Trey Hendrickson, 77 - Mitchell Loewen (RFC 2020) RLB (4) 56 - DeMario Davis, 54 - Chase Hansen, 51 - Colton Jumper (ERFA 2020), 50 - Andrew Dowell (RFC 2020) MLB (4) 47 - Alex Anzalone, 54 - Kiko Alonso, 52 - Craig Robertson, 55 - Kaden Elliss RCB (2) 23 - Marshon Lattimore, 34 - Justin Hardee (RFA 2020) NCB (1) 21 - Patrick Robinson FS (3) 43 - Marcus A. Williams, 48 - J.T. Gray (ERFA 2020), 33 - Saquan Hampton SS (2) 22 - Chauncey Gardner, 31 - Chris Johnson (2020 RFA 2020) LCB (1) 20 - Janoris Jenkins KICKING K (1) 3 - Wil Lutz P (1) 6 - Thomas Morstead LS (1) 49 - Zach Wood (RFA 2020) RS (*) 11 - Deonte Harris, 44 - Taquan Mizzel 90-man Roster Count - Total: 62; Offense: 31; Defense: 28; Kicking: 3 KEY: Projected Starter Free Agent (FA 2020) Exclusive Rights Free Agent (ERFA 2020) Reserve/Futures Contract (RFC 2020) Rookie Draft Pick (R#,P#) Undrafted Rookie Free Agent (UDFA 2020) Injured, Injured/Reserve, Injured/PUP |
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03-16-2020, 05:31 PM
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Re: 2020 New Orleans Saints: Roster Outlook
SAINTS DEPTH CHART - 2020 New Orleans Saints – Free Agency Early Tampering
OFFENSE QB (2) 9 – Drew Brees, 7 - Taysom Hill (RFA 2020/Tendered First Round) RB (3) 41 - Alvin Kamara, 28 - Latavius Murray, 44 - Taquan Mizzel FB (1) 30 - Ricky Ortiz WR-X (4) 13 - Michael Thomas, 18 - Keith Kirkwood (ERFA 2020), 17 - Emmanuel Butler (RFC 2020), 15 - Maurice Harris (RFC 2020) WR-S (3) 81 - Krishawn Hogan, 84 - Lil’Jordan Humphrey, 80 - Austin Carr (RFA - 2020) LT (2) 72 - Terron Armstead, 73 - Ethan Greenidge LG (2) 62 - Nick Easton, 68 - Derrick Kelly (RFC 2020) C (2) 78 - Erik McCoy, 63 - Cameron Tom (RFA 2020) RG (2) 67 - Larry Warford, 64 - Will Clapp RT (1) 71 - Ryan Ramcyzk TE (5) 87 - Jared Cook, 89 - Josh Hill, 86 - Jason Vander Laan, 45 - Garrett Griffin, 85 - Cole Wick (RFC 2020) WR-Z (4) 10 - Tra'Quan Smith, 11 - Deonte Harris, 14 - Tim White (RFC 2020), 16 - TommyLee Lewis (RFC 2020) DEFENSE RDE (3) 92 - Marcus Davenport, 96 - Carl Granderson, 97 - Mario Edwards NT (3) 90 - Malcolm Brown, 99 - Shy Tuttle, 95 - Taylor Stallworth DT3 (3) 93 - David Onyemata (FA 2020), 98 - Sheldon Rankins, 77 - Jalen Dalton (RFC 2020) LDE (3) 94 - Cam Jordan, 91 - Trey Hendrickson, 77 - Mitchell Loewen (RFC 2020) RLB (4) 56 - DeMario Davis, 54 - Chase Hansen, 51 - Colton Jumper (ERFA 2020), 50 - Andrew Dowell (RFC 2020) MLB (4) 47 - Alex Anzalone, 54 - Kiko Alonso, 52 - Craig Robertson, 55 - Kaden Elliss RCB (2) 23 - Marshon Lattimore, 34 - Justin Hardee (RFA 2020) NCB (1) 21 - Patrick Robinson FS (3) 43 - Marcus A. Williams, 48 - J.T. Gray (ERFA 2020), 33 - Saquan Hampton SS (2) 22 - Chauncey Gardner, 31 - Chris Johnson (2020 RFA 2020) LCB (1) 20 - Janoris Jenkins KICKING K (1) 3 - Wil Lutz P (1) 6 - Thomas Morstead LS (1) 49 - Zach Wood (RFA 2020) RS (*) 11 - Deonte Harris, 44 - Taquan Mizzel 90-man Roster Count - Total: 63; Offense: 31; Defense: 29; Kicking: 3 KEY: Projected Starter Free Agent (FA 2020) Exclusive Rights Free Agent (ERFA 2020) Reserve/Futures Contract (RFC 2020) Rookie Draft Pick (R#,P#) Undrafted Rookie Free Agent (UDFA 2020) Injured, Injured/Reserve, Injured/PUP |
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03-17-2020, 08:44 AM
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Re: 2020 New Orleans Saints: Roster Outlook
RLB (4) 56 - DeMario Davis, 54 - Chase Hansen, 51 - Colton Jumper (ERFA 2020), 50 - Andrew Dowell (RFC 2020)
MLB (4) 47 - Alex Anzalone, 54 - Kiko Alonso, 52 - Craig Robertson, 55 - Kaden Elliss DD and Robertson are the only guys we can count on (health) at LB on Sundays. If Patrick Queen (LSU - LB) slides down the draft board, would you? |
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03-17-2020, 09:34 PM
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Re: 2020 New Orleans Saints: Roster Outlook
Originally Posted by K Major
Just mentioned this in FA thread re: Re-Working Kiko's Contract, we had three (3) LBers on the field for less than a 1/3 of our defensive snaps; now we do rotate them to keep 'em fresh, but the game has changed...
Love Queen and I like Murray, but the premium positions in this league right now is QBs, CBs, WRX, DEs, and I believe you're right that we need that third DE or CB2 a helluva lot more than a LBer... I'd rather not risk a Day 1 or early Day 2 pick on a LBer (Simmons would be the exception), but have plenty of late Day 2 and Day 3 picks to try to find those quick former SS converted to LBer types... |
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