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this is a discussion within the Saints Community Forum; Originally Posted by jeanpierre There's still some good ones out there - problem may be the salary cap for next season, and the Saints are trying to roll some money forward for contract extensions... True Dat! But it looks like ...

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Old 08-10-2020, 12:18 PM   #1
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Re: 2020 New Orleans Saints: Roster Outlook

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There's still some good ones out there - problem may be the salary cap for next season, and the Saints are trying to roll some money forward for contract extensions...
True Dat! But it looks like we are going all in this year. Drew might have two years left in him so I don't want to break up the band next year because of an over priced free agent we sign this year.
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Old 08-11-2020, 08:42 AM   #2
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True Dat! But it looks like we are going all in this year. Drew might have two years left in him so I don't want to break up the band next year because of an over priced free agent we sign this year.
Well, Drew will still have to be paid for next year if he comes back for an encore, which I seriously doubt...

If Payton is to be believed and Taysom is legit, he also will need a contract...

And then there's Ramczyk, Lattimore, Mr. Marcus, Anzalone, Hendrickson, among others...

With the Onyemata signing, believe Rankins is done after this season as a Saint...
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Well, Drew will still have to be paid for next year if he comes back for an encore, which I seriously doubt...

If Payton is to be believed and Taysom is legit, he also will need a contract...

And then there's Ramczyk, Lattimore, Mr. Marcus, Anzalone, Hendrickson, among others...

With the Onyemata signing, believe Rankins is done after this season as a Saint...
The entire NFL will be dealing with the down cap, JP. The players know this, as well. You cannot compare the next round of contracts with their historical predecessors. Mark Dominik was talking about this a couple of weeks ago on NFL Radio. Player expectations are going to be quite a bit lower. Contracts will not look the same for the next few years, much as economics will appear to be substantially different in every industry for the next several years. What you came to expect in the past is no longer relevant, at least not for the near future.

And win or lose, I fully expect Brees to return unless something dramatic happens and he no longer loves the game or he suddenly can no longer perform at a high level. I can't see either of these being a factor yet.

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The entire NFL will be dealing with the down cap, JP. The players know this, as well. You cannot compare the next round of contracts with their historical predecessors. Mark Dominik was talking about this a couple of weeks ago on NFL Radio. Player expectations are going to be quite a bit lower. Contracts will not look the same for the next few years, much as economics will appear to be substantially different in every industry for the next several years. What you came to expect in the past is no longer relevant, at least not for the near future.

And win or lose, I fully expect Brees to return unless something dramatic happens and he no longer loves the game or he suddenly can no longer perform at a high level. I can't see either of these being a factor yet.
Understand, but some teams are more against the cap than others...

Some guys are definitely going to walk next year...

The point about Brees is that next year's money is really money kick down the road...

And next season the road will be short...
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Understand, but some teams are more against the cap than others...

Some guys are definitely going to walk next year...

The point about Brees is that next year's money is really money kick down the road...

And next season the road will be short...
The money will have no impact upon whether Brees plans to return for the 2021 season. If he is ready and willing he will be playing in New Orleans. Gayle will insist that Loomis finds a way to make it happen.

I have a feeling there are going to be a lot of short term contracts next year. Mega deals will be put off by teams and players alike. Grass will not look near as green on other teams. Once again, you cannot count on anything basing it upon the past.
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The money will have no impact upon whether Brees plans to return for the 2021 season. If he is ready and willing he will be playing in New Orleans. Gayle will insist that Loomis finds a way to make it happen.

I have a feeling there are going to be a lot of short term contracts next year. Mega deals will be put off by teams and players alike. Grass will not look near as green on other teams. Once again, you cannot count on anything basing it upon the past.
WTH are you talking about, "Once again"?

The cap is going down next year and there are a number of contracts that will have to be extended...

Drew's current contract only calls for him to play through this year; the money against next season's cap was money kicked down the road...

So if Drew plays next year, a new contract will have to be made, he'll have to be extended, as well as the previously mentioned players...

As the Saints are nearly up against the cap now, and the cap decreasing next year, there are several high talent current players, fan favorites, that will likely not be with this roster this time next season...

That is the reality of the salary cap, nothing about the past was referenced with regards to that, so who will and won't be here isn't the point, the point is there will be an exodus of players...

You're reading tea leaves that aren't there...

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WTH are you talking about, "Once again"?

The cap is going down next year and there are a number of contracts that will have to be extended...

Drew's current contract only calls for him to play through this year; the money against next season's cap was money kicked down the road...

So if Drew plays next year, a new contract will have to be made, he'll have to be extended, as well as the previously mentioned players...

As the Saints are nearly up against the cap now, and the cap decreasing next year, there are several high talent current players, fan favorites, that will likely not be with this roster this time next season...

That is the reality of the salary cap, nothing about the past was referenced with regards to that, so who will and won't be here isn't the point, the point is there will be an exodus of players...

You're reading tea leaves that aren't there...
The once again was referencing my making the point on other occasions. Because of the economic environment there will be deals made and contracts structured as never before. With all the unknowns from the college market teams will do what it takes to maintain there rosters as much as possible all across the league. I have also heard talk of a soft cap of sorts to alleviate some of your concerns. No telling what else the league will come up with by next season. All I am saying is don't count on anything just because of the way the situations may have looked in the past. One more thing to consider is if college ball gets cancelled the revenues for the NFL will be much higher than projected with the addition of Saturday games. This could mean the reduction in cap could be far less than previously alluded.

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