2020 New Orleans Saints: Roster Outlook

dizzle88 · 09-19-2020, 05:52 PM

Originally Posted by st thomas

Well trequan has the opportunity to shine Monday , should have single coverage all day long. He aught to have a buck fifty and a couple of scores.

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Lol if only.

Trequan has single coverage whenever MT is on the field and hasn't done squat.

Seems we drafted him in the 2nd round to be only useful during run plays.

st thomas · 09-19-2020, 07:43 PM

Can’t disagree there except he was a turd rd pick

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K Major · 09-19-2020, 08:00 PM

Originally Posted by st thomas

Can’t disagree there except he was a turd rd pick

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Did you catch any of the 2019 Steelers by chance? Diontae Johnson ... another 3rd round draft pick from last season. Balling.

3quan Smith better do something. No excuses. He's about out of chances ... unless you want him to be more of a blocker

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st thomas · 09-19-2020, 08:31 PM

Originally Posted by K Major

Did you catch any of the 2019 Steelers by chance? Diontae Johnson ... another 3rd round draft pick from last season. Balling.

3quan Smith better do something. No excuses. He's about out of chances ... unless you want him to be more of a blocker .

I’m thinking his last hoorah shyyt or get off the pot

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K Major · 09-19-2020, 09:01 PM

Originally Posted by st thomas

I’m thinking his last hoorah shyyt or get off the pot

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Nah, CSP likes the dude ... kind of like how he loves Austin 1 catch Carr.

AsylumGuido · 09-20-2020, 08:01 AM

Originally Posted by dizzle88

Lol if only.

Trequan has single coverage whenever MT is on the field and hasn't done squat.

Seems we drafted him in the 2nd round to be only useful during run plays.

Originally Posted by K Major

Did you catch any of the 2019 Steelers by chance? Diontae Johnson ... another 3rd round draft pick from last season. Balling.

3quan Smith better do something. No excuses. He's about out of chances ... unless you want him to be more of a blocker .

Originally Posted by st thomas

I’m thinking his last hoorah shyyt or get off the pot

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I would be curious to take an in depth look at the all 22's and see how often he is open when on the field. As I pointed out earlier, on all designed plays there are designed options #1 through #5. As long as Thomas is on the field he is going to be that first option much more often than not. Sanders would be #2 and then Cook or Kamara. Smith could be open every single play and never see the ball because of play design. Once again, a QB does not throw the ball to the most open receiver ... unless there is a totally blown coverage. They throw the ball to the FIRST open receiver in the play's progression.

At this point Smith's job is to be that 4th or 5th option. Undoubtedly there are a few plays where he might be up that option list a little higher and there may even be one or two plays per game where he is option #1. The only way he is going to be a six or seven catch guy on our current roster is for others to not be doing their job.

AsylumGuido · 09-20-2020, 08:07 AM

Payton, and Carmichael's, total commitment to Thomas in play design is reminiscent of their dependence upon Jimmy Graham several years back. It might not be a bad thing for Thomas to miss a game to force Payton to get some other receivers, like Smith, more involved.

K Major · 09-20-2020, 10:16 AM

Originally Posted by AsylumGuido

I would be curious to take an in depth look at the all 22's and see how often he is open when on the field. As I pointed out earlier, on all designed plays there are designed options #1 through #5. As long as Thomas is on the field he is going to be that first option much more often than not. Sanders would be #2 and then Cook or Kamara. Smith could be open every single play and never see the ball because of play design. Once again, a QB does not throw the ball to the most open receiver ... unless there is a totally blown coverage. They throw the ball to the FIRST open receiver in the play's progression.

At this point Smith's job is to be that 4th or 5th option. Undoubtedly there are a few plays where he might be up that option list a little higher and there may even be one or two plays per game where he is option #1. The only way he is going to be a six or seven catch guy on our current roster is for others to not be doing their job.

A 3rd rd draft selection is your 4th or 5th option? ... Taysom is doing what TS should be doing in this offense.

AG - TQS is exactly who he is. He’s a low upside WR who is a solid blocker who struggles significantly to get separation. He does nothing particularly well...he’s not a burner and won’t be winning deep unless he’s left open, he doesn’t win contested passes over the middle of the field, and does little after the catch. He’s pretty much the definition of “meh”. He’s just good enough to be on an NFL roster but not someone you’re thrilled about having a significant role.

st thomas · 09-20-2020, 08:20 AM

All makes sense to me but all the write ups about trequan’s big break thru year coming because of his battle with injuries ; and to me (just can’t get open ) this year by coach’s and players tells me one thing shyyt or get off the pot . I’m pullin for the fella guys but what I see with my own eyes he can’t get separation , if that’s by design I’m all over it.

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dizzle88 · 09-20-2020, 12:13 PM

Being hung up on draft position is absolutely fine, considering Trequan is less useful than Brandon Coleman was, and Brandon was an UDFA.

09-19-2020, 08:00 PM	#3
K Major Site Donor 2019 Join Date: Jan 2013 Location: Bedford, TX Posts: 24,738 Blog Entries: 3	Re: 2020 New Orleans Saints: Roster Outlook Originally Posted by st thomas Can’t disagree there except he was a turd rd pick Sent from my iPhone using Tapatalk Did you catch any of the 2019 Steelers by chance? Diontae Johnson ... another 3rd round draft pick from last season. Balling. 3quan Smith better do something. No excuses. He's about out of chances ... unless you want him to be more of a blocker .

09-19-2020, 08:31 PM	#4
st thomas Site Donor 2018 Join Date: Dec 2009 Location: lafayette Posts: 7,753	Re: 2020 New Orleans Saints: Roster Outlook Originally Posted by K Major Did you catch any of the 2019 Steelers by chance? Diontae Johnson ... another 3rd round draft pick from last season. Balling. 3quan Smith better do something. No excuses. He's about out of chances ... unless you want him to be more of a blocker . I’m thinking his last hoorah shyyt or get off the pot Sent from my iPhone using Tapatalk

09-20-2020, 08:01 AM	#6
AsylumGuido 10000 POST CLUB Join Date: Sep 2007 Location: Bossier City, LA Posts: 26,472	Re: 2020 New Orleans Saints: Roster Outlook Originally Posted by dizzle88 Lol if only. Trequan has single coverage whenever MT is on the field and hasn't done squat. Seems we drafted him in the 2nd round to be only useful during run plays. Originally Posted by K Major Did you catch any of the 2019 Steelers by chance? Diontae Johnson ... another 3rd round draft pick from last season. Balling. 3quan Smith better do something. No excuses. He's about out of chances ... unless you want him to be more of a blocker . Originally Posted by st thomas I’m thinking his last hoorah shyyt or get off the pot Sent from my iPhone using Tapatalk I would be curious to take an in depth look at the all 22's and see how often he is open when on the field. As I pointed out earlier, on all designed plays there are designed options #1 through #5. As long as Thomas is on the field he is going to be that first option much more often than not. Sanders would be #2 and then Cook or Kamara. Smith could be open every single play and never see the ball because of play design. Once again, a QB does not throw the ball to the most open receiver ... unless there is a totally blown coverage. They throw the ball to the FIRST open receiver in the play's progression. At this point Smith's job is to be that 4th or 5th option. Undoubtedly there are a few plays where he might be up that option list a little higher and there may even be one or two plays per game where he is option #1. The only way he is going to be a six or seven catch guy on our current roster is for others to not be doing their job.
	“The pessimist sees difficulty in every opportunity. The optimist sees the opportunity in every difficulty.” — Winston Churchill

09-20-2020, 08:07 AM	#7
AsylumGuido 10000 POST CLUB Join Date: Sep 2007 Location: Bossier City, LA Posts: 26,472	Re: 2020 New Orleans Saints: Roster Outlook Payton, and Carmichael's, total commitment to Thomas in play design is reminiscent of their dependence upon Jimmy Graham several years back. It might not be a bad thing for Thomas to miss a game to force Payton to get some other receivers, like Smith, more involved.

09-20-2020, 10:16 AM	#8
K Major Site Donor 2019 Join Date: Jan 2013 Location: Bedford, TX Posts: 24,738 Blog Entries: 3	Re: 2020 New Orleans Saints: Roster Outlook Originally Posted by AsylumGuido I would be curious to take an in depth look at the all 22's and see how often he is open when on the field. As I pointed out earlier, on all designed plays there are designed options #1 through #5. As long as Thomas is on the field he is going to be that first option much more often than not. Sanders would be #2 and then Cook or Kamara. Smith could be open every single play and never see the ball because of play design. Once again, a QB does not throw the ball to the most open receiver ... unless there is a totally blown coverage. They throw the ball to the FIRST open receiver in the play's progression. At this point Smith's job is to be that 4th or 5th option. Undoubtedly there are a few plays where he might be up that option list a little higher and there may even be one or two plays per game where he is option #1. The only way he is going to be a six or seven catch guy on our current roster is for others to not be doing their job. A 3rd rd draft selection is your 4th or 5th option? ... Taysom is doing what TS should be doing in this offense. AG - TQS is exactly who he is. He’s a low upside WR who is a solid blocker who struggles significantly to get separation. He does nothing particularly well...he’s not a burner and won’t be winning deep unless he’s left open, he doesn’t win contested passes over the middle of the field, and does little after the catch. He’s pretty much the definition of “meh”. He’s just good enough to be on an NFL roster but not someone you’re thrilled about having a significant role.

09-19-2020, 05:52 PM	#1
dizzle88 10000 POST CLUB Join Date: Oct 2009 Posts: 11,518	Re: 2020 New Orleans Saints: Roster Outlook Originally Posted by st thomas Well trequan has the opportunity to shine Monday , should have single coverage all day long. He aught to have a buck fifty and a couple of scores. Sent from my iPhone using Tapatalk Lol if only. Trequan has single coverage whenever MT is on the field and hasn't done squat. Seems we drafted him in the 2nd round to be only useful during run plays.

09-19-2020, 07:43 PM	#2
st thomas Site Donor 2018 Join Date: Dec 2009 Location: lafayette Posts: 7,753	Re: 2020 New Orleans Saints: Roster Outlook Can’t disagree there except he was a turd rd pick Sent from my iPhone using Tapatalk

09-19-2020, 09:01 PM	#5
K Major Site Donor 2019 Join Date: Jan 2013 Location: Bedford, TX Posts: 24,738 Blog Entries: 3	Re: 2020 New Orleans Saints: Roster Outlook Originally Posted by st thomas I’m thinking his last hoorah shyyt or get off the pot Sent from my iPhone using Tapatalk Nah, CSP likes the dude ... kind of like how he loves Austin 1 catch Carr.

09-20-2020, 08:20 AM	#9
st thomas Site Donor 2018 Join Date: Dec 2009 Location: lafayette Posts: 7,753	Re: 2020 New Orleans Saints: Roster Outlook All makes sense to me but all the write ups about trequan’s big break thru year coming because of his battle with injuries ; and to me (just can’t get open ) this year by coach’s and players tells me one thing shyyt or get off the pot . I’m pullin for the fella guys but what I see with my own eyes he can’t get separation , if that’s by design I’m all over it. Sent from my iPhone using Tapatalk

09-20-2020, 12:13 PM	#10
dizzle88 10000 POST CLUB Join Date: Oct 2009 Posts: 11,518	Re: 2020 New Orleans Saints: Roster Outlook Being hung up on draft position is absolutely fine, considering Trequan is less useful than Brandon Coleman was, and Brandon was an UDFA.

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