Carolina Panthers

subguy · 03-17-2003, 08:49 AM

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Panthers | Proehl Agrees to 3-year Deal - posted at KFFL (http://nfl.kffl.com)
6:54 PT: Pat Yasinskas, of the Charlotte Observer, reports the Carolina Panthers have agreed to a three-year deal with free agent WR Ricky Proehl (Rams). The deal is worth $3 million and could increase to $3.4 million through incentives.

WhoDat · 03-17-2003, 09:59 AM

Just another piece in the puzzle. I hope Pak is reading this... Still think they don\'t have a shot Yoda? 6-10 huh?

WhoDat · 03-17-2003, 12:07 PM

I doubt they\'ll beat out the Bucs or Falcons this season, but they could definitely beat us out. Who knows, this is going to be a unbelievably competitive conference. Honestly I wouldn\'t be surprised to see all four teams with winning records. We could destroy everyone else and just beat up on ourselves.

I\'ll say this. Carolina still may not get there this year... but next year, watch out!

pakowitz · 03-17-2003, 12:56 PM

whoa whoa whoa, hold the phone..... are u tryin to tell me that Ricky Proehl is the last peice of the puzzle for the panthers?!?! Ricky Proehl is gonna take the panthers to the top of our division?!?! please tell me u are not saying that? i sure hope not b/c he isnt really that good, he is at best a 3rd option reciever, there is no way he can be a #1 guy,

im sayin 6-10 with out seeing their schedule, i might change my stance after i see their crappy schedule they will have since they were a 4th place team but they are also in the toughest division in the NFL, taking over our division is like tryin to take steak from a lion, its gonna be hard as heII

WhoDat · 03-17-2003, 01:06 PM

No Pak, I\'m not saying Proehl is the last piece of the puzzle that they needed to catapult themselves to the top of the division. I said they would end up third in the division, but these kind of signings make them a winning team. I\'m saying Proehl is another piece in the puzzle. He improves their team. Veteran leadership. A guy with a lot of playoff and even Super Bowl experience who came from a winning tradition. Plus, he could start on a lot of teams in the NFL. He is better than a number 3 receiver - gimme a break. He\'s best suited as the number two guy in my opinion.

Let\'s think about this. The Panthers were 7-9 last year under a new coach. They have a young, talented, hungry defense. This off-season they haven\'t lost any player of any significance to my knowledge. They have added a Pro Bowl caliber runningback, a veteran wide out with plenty of post season experience, and a young talented quarterback with something to prove. That is a recipe to get worse in your mind?!?! C\'mon Pak, that\'s ridiculous.

Another year under a new coach\'s system. Peppers should play all year, all these new FAs, plus the draft. That team will improve. I am willing to bet you on that one.

pakowitz · 03-17-2003, 01:14 PM

yes i know it sounds crazy but i dont think they will be any better then they were last year, free agents and draft picks and all doesnt mean a team will get better ie washington redskins, there D is young and hungry but their O is old, yea they got delhomme but he is in a new system and he isnt the sure starter their either with wenkie and the old guy whatever his name is, i cant think of it off hand, their O line i know nothing about which im sure doesnt stand good for them, and davis is often injured

subguy · 03-17-2003, 06:27 PM

No, I think the Panthers have \"on paper\" improved dramatically. At least the attempt to better themselves.

FWtex · 03-17-2003, 09:24 PM

I believe the Panthers will be better than the saints with their offseason moves so far. They have added players who play with heart and will bring up the rest of the teams play. They already have a good nucleus on offense to build around and they still have the draft ahead of them. I think they will be greatly improved.

Problem #2 for the saints. they are expected to play well - and history tells us that A Haz team does not play well under pressure. Notice the two seasons they did best was when they were not expected to do anything. Makes me wonder and scares me we will suck the big\'n this year.

billyh1026 · 03-17-2003, 10:27 PM

Good lord man...the Panthers offense sucked last year. Almost ANYTHING they do with their offense in the offseason will DRAMATICALLY improve them.

pakowitz · 03-18-2003, 01:58 AM

oh how true that statement is billy, u couldnt be more right. even if i had said it myself it wouldnt be more right :P

03-17-2003, 09:59 AM	#2
WhoDat 5000 POSTS! + Join Date: Sep 2002 Posts: 5,631	Carolina Panthers Just another piece in the puzzle. I hope Pak is reading this... Still think they don\'t have a shot Yoda? 6-10 huh?
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03-17-2003, 12:07 PM	#3
WhoDat 5000 POSTS! + Join Date: Sep 2002 Posts: 5,631	Carolina Panthers I doubt they\'ll beat out the Bucs or Falcons this season, but they could definitely beat us out. Who knows, this is going to be a unbelievably competitive conference. Honestly I wouldn\'t be surprised to see all four teams with winning records. We could destroy everyone else and just beat up on ourselves. I\'ll say this. Carolina still may not get there this year... but next year, watch out!
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03-17-2003, 12:56 PM	#4
pakowitz The Dark Overlord Join Date: Oct 2002 Location: dirty south Posts: 3,450	Carolina Panthers whoa whoa whoa, hold the phone..... are u tryin to tell me that Ricky Proehl is the last peice of the puzzle for the panthers?!?! Ricky Proehl is gonna take the panthers to the top of our division?!?! please tell me u are not saying that? i sure hope not b/c he isnt really that good, he is at best a 3rd option reciever, there is no way he can be a #1 guy, im sayin 6-10 with out seeing their schedule, i might change my stance after i see their crappy schedule they will have since they were a 4th place team but they are also in the toughest division in the NFL, taking over our division is like tryin to take steak from a lion, its gonna be hard as heII
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03-17-2003, 01:06 PM	#5
WhoDat 5000 POSTS! + Join Date: Sep 2002 Posts: 5,631	Carolina Panthers No Pak, I\'m not saying Proehl is the last piece of the puzzle that they needed to catapult themselves to the top of the division. I said they would end up third in the division, but these kind of signings make them a winning team. I\'m saying Proehl is another piece in the puzzle. He improves their team. Veteran leadership. A guy with a lot of playoff and even Super Bowl experience who came from a winning tradition. Plus, he could start on a lot of teams in the NFL. He is better than a number 3 receiver - gimme a break. He\'s best suited as the number two guy in my opinion. Let\'s think about this. The Panthers were 7-9 last year under a new coach. They have a young, talented, hungry defense. This off-season they haven\'t lost any player of any significance to my knowledge. They have added a Pro Bowl caliber runningback, a veteran wide out with plenty of post season experience, and a young talented quarterback with something to prove. That is a recipe to get worse in your mind?!?! C\'mon Pak, that\'s ridiculous. Another year under a new coach\'s system. Peppers should play all year, all these new FAs, plus the draft. That team will improve. I am willing to bet you on that one.
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03-17-2003, 01:14 PM	#6
pakowitz The Dark Overlord Join Date: Oct 2002 Location: dirty south Posts: 3,450	Carolina Panthers yes i know it sounds crazy but i dont think they will be any better then they were last year, free agents and draft picks and all doesnt mean a team will get better ie washington redskins, there D is young and hungry but their O is old, yea they got delhomme but he is in a new system and he isnt the sure starter their either with wenkie and the old guy whatever his name is, i cant think of it off hand, their O line i know nothing about which im sure doesnt stand good for them, and davis is often injured
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03-17-2003, 08:49 AM	#1
subguy 1000 Posts + Join Date: Aug 2002 Location: FL Posts: 2,095	Carolina Panthers Have these guys been active or what? Panthers \| Proehl Agrees to 3-year Deal - posted at KFFL (http://nfl.kffl.com) 6:54 PT: Pat Yasinskas, of the Charlotte Observer, reports the Carolina Panthers have agreed to a three-year deal with free agent WR Ricky Proehl (Rams). The deal is worth $3 million and could increase to $3.4 million through incentives.

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03-17-2003, 06:27 PM	#7
subguy 1000 Posts + Join Date: Aug 2002 Location: FL Posts: 2,095	Carolina Panthers No, I think the Panthers have \"on paper\" improved dramatically. At least the attempt to better themselves.

03-17-2003, 09:24 PM	#8
FWtex 100th Post Join Date: Sep 2002 Posts: 370	Carolina Panthers I believe the Panthers will be better than the saints with their offseason moves so far. They have added players who play with heart and will bring up the rest of the teams play. They already have a good nucleus on offense to build around and they still have the draft ahead of them. I think they will be greatly improved. Problem #2 for the saints. they are expected to play well - and history tells us that A Haz team does not play well under pressure. Notice the two seasons they did best was when they were not expected to do anything. Makes me wonder and scares me we will suck the big\'n this year.
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03-17-2003, 10:27 PM	#9
billyh1026 100th Post Join Date: Aug 2002 Posts: 213	Carolina Panthers Good lord man...the Panthers offense sucked last year. Almost ANYTHING they do with their offense in the offseason will DRAMATICALLY improve them.
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03-18-2003, 01:58 AM	#10
pakowitz The Dark Overlord Join Date: Oct 2002 Location: dirty south Posts: 3,450	Carolina Panthers oh how true that statement is billy, u couldnt be more right. even if i had said it myself it wouldnt be more right :P